The Being of The End For Climate Changers.

[blueice]

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-spins-climate-change-emails

Hundreds of emails and documents where hacked from computers showing deceit, lies and deception, by pro Climate Changers...

Dr Mann, you will soon be in a frying pann....

Hacked E-Mail Is New Fodder for Climate Dispute

By ANDREW C. REVKIN
November 20, 2009
Hundreds of private e-mail messages and documents hacked from a computer server at a British university are causing a stir among global warming skeptics, who say they show that climate scientists conspired to overstate the case for a human influence on climate change.
The e-mail messages, attributed to prominent American and British climate researchers, include discussions of scientific data and whether it should be released, exchanges about how best to combat the arguments of skeptics, and casual comments — in some cases derisive — about specific people known for their skeptical views. Drafts of scientific papers and a photo collage that portrays climate skeptics on an ice floe were also among the hacked data, some of which dates back 13 years.
In one e-mail exchange, a scientist writes of using a statistical “trick” in a chart illustrating a recent sharp warming trend. In another, a scientist refers to climate skeptics as “idiots.”
Some skeptics asserted Friday that the correspondence revealed an effort to withhold scientific information. “This is not a smoking gun; this is a mushroom cloud,” said Patrick J. Michaels, a climatologist who has long faulted evidence pointing to human-driven warming and is criticized in the documents.
Some of the correspondence portrays the scientists as feeling under siege by the skeptics’ camp and worried that any stray comment or data glitch could be turned against them.
The evidence pointing to a growing human contribution to global warming is so widely accepted that the hacked material is unlikely to erode the overall argument. However, the documents will undoubtedly raise questions about the quality of research on some specific questions and the actions of some scientists.
In several e-mail exchanges, Kevin Trenberth, a climatologist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, and other scientists discuss gaps in understanding of recent variations in temperature. Skeptic Web sites pointed out one line in particular: “The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t,” Dr. Trenberth wrote.
The cache of e-mail messages also includes references to journalists, including this reporter, and queries from journalists related to articles they were reporting.
Officials at the University of East Anglia confirmed in a statement on Friday that files had been stolen from a university server and that the police had been brought in to investigate the breach. They added, however, that they could not confirm that all the material circulating on the Internet was authentic.
But several scientists and others contacted by The New York Times confirmed that they were the authors or recipients of specific e-mail messages included in the file. The revelations are bound to inflame the public debate as hundreds of negotiators prepare to negotiate an international climate accord at meetings in Copenhagen next month, and at least one scientist speculated that the timing was not coincidental.
Dr. Trenberth said Friday that he was appalled at the release of the e-mail messages.
But he added that he thought the revelations might backfire against climate skeptics. He said that he thought that the messages showed “the integrity of scientists.” Still, some of the comments might lend themselves to being interpreted as sinister.
In a 1999 e-mail exchange about charts showing climate patterns over the last two millenniums, Phil Jones, a longtime climate researcher at the East Anglia Climate Research Unit, said he had used a “trick” employed by another scientist, Michael Mann, to “hide the decline” in temperatures.
Dr. Mann, a professor at Pennsylvania State University, confirmed in an interview that the e-mail message was real. He said the choice of words by his colleague was poor but noted that scientists often used the word “trick” to refer to a good way to solve a problem, “and not something secret.”
At issue were sets of data, both employed in two studies. One data set showed long-term temperature effects on tree rings; the other, thermometer readings for the past 100 years.
Through the last century, tree rings and thermometers show a consistent rise in temperature until 1960, when some tree rings, for unknown reasons, no longer show that rise, while the thermometers continue to do so until the present.
Dr. Mann explained that the reliability of the tree-ring data was called into question, so they were no longer used to track temperature fluctuations. But he said dropping the use of the tree rings was never something that was hidden, and had been in the scientific literature for more than a decade. “It sounds incriminating, but when you look at what you’re talking about, there’s nothing there,” Dr. Mann said.
In addition, other independent but indirect measurements of temperature fluctuations in the studies broadly agreed with the thermometer data showing rising temperatures.
Dr. Jones, writing in an e-mail message, declined to be interviewed.
Stephen McIntyre, a blogger who on his Web site, climateaudit.org, has for years been challenging data used to chart climate patterns, and who came in for heated criticism in some e-mail messages, called the revelations “quite breathtaking.”
But several scientists whose names appear in the e-mail messages said they merely revealed that scientists were human, and did nothing to undercut the body of research on global warming. “Science doesn’t work because we’re all nice,” said Gavin A. Schmidt, a climatologist at NASA whose e-mail exchanges with colleagues over a variety of climate studies were in the cache. “Newton may have been an ass, but the theory of gravity still works.”
He said the breach at the University of East Anglia was discovered after hackers who had gained access to the correspondence sought Tuesday to hack into a different server supporting realclimate.org, a blog unrelated to NASA that he runs with several other scientists pressing the case that global warming is true.
The intruders sought to create a mock blog post there and to upload the full batch of files from Britain. That effort was thwarted, Dr. Schmidt said, and scientists immediately notified colleagues at the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit. The first posts that revealed details from the files appeared Thursday at The Air Vent, a Web site devoted to skeptics’ arguments.
At first, said Dr. Michaels, the climatologist who has faulted some of the science of the global warming consensus, his instinct was to ignore the correspondence as “just the way scientists talk.”
But on Friday, he said that after reading more deeply, he felt that some exchanges reflected an effort to block the release of data for independent review.
He said some messages mused about discrediting him by challenging the veracity of his doctoral dissertation at the University of Wisconsin by claiming he knew his research was wrong. “This shows these are people willing to bend rules and go after other people’s reputations in very serious ways,” he said.
Spencer R. Weart, a physicist and historian who is charting the course of research on global warming, said the hacked material would serve as “great material for historians.”

Given the sheer numbers of emails that are now available, it is downright laughable that The Times can be so authoritative in claiming that none of this matters.
But it’s not like they are interested in getting to the truth. They see ‘global warming’ as a way to destroy capitalism, and the facts be damned.

In a 1999 e-mail exchange about charts showing climate patterns over the last two millenniums, Phil Jones, a longtime climate researcher at the East Anglia Climate Research Unit, said he had used a “trick” employed by another scientist, Michael Mann, to “hide the decline” in temperatures.
Dr. Mann, a professor at Pennsylvania State University, confirmed in an interview that the e-mail message was real. He said the choice of words by his colleague was poor but noted that scientists often used the word “trick” to refer to a good way to solve a problem, “and not something secret.”

Yes, and of course “scientists” always talk about hiding evidence that counters their desires.

But several scientists whose names appear in the e-mail messages said they merely revealed that scientists were human, and did nothing to undercut the body of research on global warming. “Science doesn’t work because we’re all nice,” said Gavin A. Schmidt, a climatologist at NASA whose e-mail exchanges with colleagues over a variety of climate studies were in the cache. “Newton may have been an ass, but the theory of gravity still works.”

What a hilarious comparison.
As far as we know, Newton was never caught lying.

[nathangdad]

I read the news story a few minutes ago. Very interesting.

One important thing that seems left out of the discussion - trumpeting dramatic climate change is a good way to get lots of research grants for the university crowd. So, they have an unethical reason to make it as bad as possible.

This, of course, does not help those who wish to do quality science in search of the truth.

[Mooseman684]

I waved the BS Flag on Global Warming a long time Ago...It is all About the Money !

[Rave]

AAAALLLL about da money,The Big Green Weinie is comeing to get what's left.
Global warming opportunists have been swimming in a crock so long they are saturated with it!

[samuel]

The problem is the ones that keep the liars in power wouldn't read as much as you posted in their lifetime.They just keep putting the nuts back in power. ,,,sam.

[mitchr]

Originally Posted by samuel

The problem is the ones that keep the liars in power wouldn't read as much as you posted in their lifetime.They just keep putting the nuts back in power. ,,,sam.

Too many of them COULDN'T read it if they wanted to. That's why, on the bus to the polls, they are told which lever to pull, either by it's color or the number it is, counting down from the top of the ballet.

[DWARREN123]

Global temperature changes have been going on before people were here and will continue long after we are gone. It is a natural thing and we should clean up our act but we are not the main factor(s) involved.

[blueice]

Originally Posted by DWARREN123

Global temperature changes have been going on before people were here and will continue long after we are gone. It is a natural thing and we should clean up our act but we are not the main factor(s) involved.

Yes, the common sense argument...Of course, for the climate changers, in order to receive prestige and notoriety it becomes necessary either to predict doom and gloom or advance a new unknown scientific theory...
After all, who knows of these men, other than the pigeons that rest on their ivory tower...
Not only did they miscalculate they, LIED!

[mission_striker]

Foxnews 'broke the story', they say.



Jebus H. Rice...

[deadzero]

well, it's like I said, way back when I was in school pictures of Mars back then showed some kind of polar ice of some sort. pictures now do not show such a thing. we did not melt away whatever that stuff was. it is a natural cycle that is beyond our control and it is on a solar scale, not a global scale..

[Russ Hatch]

I love where they are putting in memos in the computer program to remind themselves to adjust the results to coincide with what they want to show.

[TXplt]

Thank God someone is exposing this for the fraud it truly is (with the very evidence written by the perps). Hackers would be unlikely heros but my hat's off to them in this case--looks like we've gotten "freedom fighter" hackers maybe. We've discussed this on the site pretty extensively and have almost all come to this conclusion already about the Global Warming fraud (there is NO credible evidence linking man made CO2 to global warming).

Thanks for the post--hopefully this'll help torpedo cap and scam (although the liars perpetrating it are the spin doctors of our current regime and have been saying black is white since January--look at health care).

[cremley]

Originally Posted by Mooseman684

I waved the BS Flag on Global Warming a long time Ago...It is all About the Money !

same here. +1

[blueice]

Everything these climate clowns submit, shall require peer reviews....

[Deersniper]

Al Gore's companies would collect the tax, this is fraud. Sorry, no coins for Al. It's all a lie.

[mission_striker]

Do you really think that anyone who looks at this stuff intelligently doesn't expect this to come out as just another foxfraud?

You Tube

Well, count me out.

[Russ Hatch]

Yep you got it. Nobody is saying that the climate is not changing. It has changed for centuries. We just don't beleave that CO2 is the culprit and see no reason to pay Al Gore for nothing.

[samuel]

Does this mean I can finally pull the plugs on my horses and let them fart again?It,s been so long! ,,,sam.

[Seabeescotty]

It is nice to see all the BS and PHD try to explain they are "human" too, with their share of errors and frailties, greed being one of them!

[dhermesc]

There is documentation of leading CRU researchers hiding data and analytical code for some 10 years. This completely subverts the scientific method. If the results of a study cannot be independently verified, it should not be considered as fact. Yet the results of unverified CRU studies were in turn used to feed other like-minded AGW studies.


It has been recently shown that (CRU's) researcher Briffa's study using Yamal tree-rings (that produced another hockey stick projection) was highly dependent on ONE tree, the magic YAD06.
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=7241

One programmer highlighted the error of relying on computer code that, if it generates an error message, continues as if nothing untoward ever occurred. Another debugged the code by pointing out why the output of a calculation that should always generate a positive number was incorrectly generating a negative one. A third concluded: “I feel for this guy. He’s obviously spent years trying to get data from undocumented and completely messy sources.”

Programmer-written comments inserted into CRU’s Fortran code have drawn fire as well. The file briffa_sep98_d.pro says: “Apply a VERY ARTIFICAL correction for decline!!” and “APPLY ARTIFICIAL CORRECTION.” Another, quantify_tsdcal.pro, says: “Low pass filtering at century and longer time scales never gets rid of the trend – so eventually I start to scale down the 120-yr low pass time series to mimic the effect of removing/adding longer time scales!”

Congress May Probe Leaked Global Warming E-Mails - Taking Liberties - CBS News