Aquila Mini Shells, Cobray M11, and Hi-point Carbine rage fun

Doglips · 01-23-2003, 11:02 AM

Braved the near 60 degree weather and went shooting some of my neglected and forgoten toys...and decided to try the Aquila Minishells (slug version)

Minishells: The web sight warns that will not feed properly in a Mosburge 500 but I tired them in my "Riot gun" anyway...the tube holds 8...and if your realy gental you can get them to feed 50% of the time....dont know the weight of the slugs (not on the box) but get 20 shells for $9. The recoil was about the same as a skeet load (1 oz #8 shoot)........the slugs seemed pretty accurate at 25 yards....but due to non feeding I would recomend them only for a double barrel or that shotgun designed for them....wifee poo did not like them...too much recoil.

Cobray PM-11 9mm.....my toy...32 rd mags and sights so crude that Im surprised there not rocks gluded to the gun.....the Cobray is awarkward to hold, aim and shoot....being a copy of the Mac-10 it realy is ment to spray and pray....so shooting from the hip and walking the rounds into the target seems to work pretty good. At 10 yards I kept the group size about the same size as Rosie O'donalds butt

At 25 yards ...the bullett resistent paper targets were able to prevent about 70-80% of the bulletts for makeing a hole in them.....basicly like firecrackers...lots of noise and smoke but no real danger to the target

The Hi-Point carbine did pretty good...adding the fiberglass helped with the weight...and MAYBE a little in the group size....the main problem I had was operator head spaceing while sighting in the scope...kept turning it the oppisit way (I know the scope has arrows pointing which is up/down left/right..but I had a blond moment.....otherwise the carbine did very well once it was sighted in.

BSchroeder · 01-23-2003, 11:25 AM

I bought an assortment of minishells for my 500 too. I read somewhere that you can make a 500 feed these things by putting a short piece of small rubber hose over the tab on the loader. Keep the shell a little higher.

I plan of trying this as soon as the temp gets above 10 degrees.

Doglips · 01-23-2003, 11:33 AM

that or some duc tape may work....the shells T with the brass end up and shell end down though the feeding ramp.....if gental and they stayed near the front they did ok....they came out 1 at a time from the tube only problem was the "T" miss feed....falling throught the feed ramp slot.

I got them so wifee poo could check them out....been trying to get he a shotgun..she dont like the 12ga and she is not too hot on useing a 20ga so I figured if the mini's had light recoil and she liked them get her a double barrel and use them....oh well guess Ill just have to be ME a new toy instead of her

......let me know how the rubber hose thing works out.

jerry · 01-23-2003, 11:46 AM

I love those mini shells. they have 'em in bird shot now also, i think? They have good .22 ammo too

Rave · 01-23-2003, 01:46 PM

If I may make a suggestion,try a barrel extension on your M11-9 and shoot it lika a rifle without a stock,it will do wonders,quieter also. Since your barrel is not threaded you may use a barrel extension that is out now for the PM,it is called a safety extension and does the same think,enjoy!:assult: :assult: :nod:

Calvin · 01-23-2003, 02:35 PM

Doglips, the Mini-Shells come in 3 different loadings.

One is 5/8 oz. load of #7-1/2 shot.

The second load combines 7 pellets of #4 buckshot with 4 pellets of #1 buckshot (pretty nasty from my pump gun!).

The third is a slug load with a 7/8 oz. slug in it. They are all 2-1/2 dram loads. The slugs travel at 1,250fps, compared to 1,400-1,600 for a 1 or 1-1/4 oz. standard 12 gauge shell.

If you compare size and velocity, the Mini-Shells are very much in the game.

BSchroeder · 01-26-2003, 02:30 PM

I braved the cold this afternoon long enough to shoot 18 of the mini shell slugs. I found that the trick is a short delay with the bolt open when reloading. Once I figured that out, I didn't have any misfeeds.

I wouldn't bet my life on it, though. What the moss 500 needs is a new loader with a longer lip in hte middle, or solid entirely.

01-23-2003, 01:46 PM	#5
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,888	If I may make a suggestion,try a barrel extension on your M11-9 and shoot it lika a rifle without a stock,it will do wonders,quieter also. Since your barrel is not threaded you may use a barrel extension that is out now for the PM,it is called a safety extension and does the same think,enjoy!:assult: :assult: :nod: __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

01-23-2003, 02:35 PM	#6
Calvin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,000	Doglips, the Mini-Shells come in 3 different loadings. One is 5/8 oz. load of #7-1/2 shot. The second load combines 7 pellets of #4 buckshot with 4 pellets of #1 buckshot (pretty nasty from my pump gun!). The third is a slug load with a 7/8 oz. slug in it. They are all 2-1/2 dram loads. The slugs travel at 1,250fps, compared to 1,400-1,600 for a 1 or 1-1/4 oz. standard 12 gauge shell. If you compare size and velocity, the Mini-Shells are very much in the game. __________________ If you don't like cops, call your local crackhead for help next time!

01-23-2003, 11:02 AM	#1
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	Aquila Mini Shells, Cobray M11, and Hi-point Carbine rage fun Braved the near 60 degree weather and went shooting some of my neglected and forgoten toys...and decided to try the Aquila Minishells (slug version) Minishells: The web sight warns that will not feed properly in a Mosburge 500 but I tired them in my "Riot gun" anyway...the tube holds 8...and if your realy gental you can get them to feed 50% of the time....dont know the weight of the slugs (not on the box) but get 20 shells for $9. The recoil was about the same as a skeet load (1 oz #8 shoot)........the slugs seemed pretty accurate at 25 yards....but due to non feeding I would recomend them only for a double barrel or that shotgun designed for them....wifee poo did not like them...too much recoil. Cobray PM-11 9mm.....my toy...32 rd mags and sights so crude that Im surprised there not rocks gluded to the gun.....the Cobray is awarkward to hold, aim and shoot....being a copy of the Mac-10 it realy is ment to spray and pray....so shooting from the hip and walking the rounds into the target seems to work pretty good. At 10 yards I kept the group size about the same size as Rosie O'donalds butt At 25 yards ...the bullett resistent paper targets were able to prevent about 70-80% of the bulletts for makeing a hole in them.....basicly like firecrackers...lots of noise and smoke but no real danger to the target The Hi-Point carbine did pretty good...adding the fiberglass helped with the weight...and MAYBE a little in the group size....the main problem I had was operator head spaceing while sighting in the scope...kept turning it the oppisit way (I know the scope has arrows pointing which is up/down left/right..but I had a blond moment.....otherwise the carbine did very well once it was sighted in.

01-23-2003, 11:25 AM	#2
BSchroeder Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 37	I bought an assortment of minishells for my 500 too. I read somewhere that you can make a 500 feed these things by putting a short piece of small rubber hose over the tab on the loader. Keep the shell a little higher. I plan of trying this as soon as the temp gets above 10 degrees.

01-23-2003, 11:33 AM	#3
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	that or some duc tape may work....the shells T with the brass end up and shell end down though the feeding ramp.....if gental and they stayed near the front they did ok....they came out 1 at a time from the tube only problem was the "T" miss feed....falling throught the feed ramp slot. I got them so wifee poo could check them out....been trying to get he a shotgun..she dont like the 12ga and she is not too hot on useing a 20ga so I figured if the mini's had light recoil and she liked them get her a double barrel and use them....oh well guess Ill just have to be ME a new toy instead of her ......let me know how the rubber hose thing works out.

01-23-2003, 11:46 AM	#4
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,901 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	I love those mini shells. they have 'em in bird shot now also, i think? They have good .22 ammo too __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

01-26-2003, 02:30 PM	#7
BSchroeder Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 37	I braved the cold this afternoon long enough to shoot 18 of the mini shell slugs. I found that the trick is a short delay with the bolt open when reloading. Once I figured that out, I didn't have any misfeeds. I wouldn't bet my life on it, though. What the moss 500 needs is a new loader with a longer lip in hte middle, or solid entirely.