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Old 12-07-2009, 10:44 AM   #1
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Bullet weight

Ok, I know that each mosin is different in what it likes...really, any firearm is like that...however, seeing as how i will be getting to shoot my new mosin in a little under 3 weeks, i would sort of like to know where to start on testing which weight the rifle likes...so i was just curious, what do your 91/30's like the best??? i figure i will take the most common and start from there...
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:19 AM   #2
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unless you're reloading, you aren't going to have much of a choice in bullet weight. heck, even if you do reload, you won't. most of the milsurp right now is 147gr. most of the commercial is 180 or just over 200. you're not going to find all sorts of weights on the counter at the local shop in bullets or cartridges. if you're reloading, get a box of every weight you can get your hands on and start experimenting.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:45 AM   #3
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Most milsurp is 147-149 grains. Except like Bulgie heavy ball, which was like 182 grains, but I haven't seen any of it around any more. There is some Yugo M30 182 grain.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:55 AM   #4
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My Mosins seem to prefer the heavier loads - I have Hungarian Heavy Ball, at 182 grain. Shoots better for me than the Czech Silvertip, 147 grain.
My handloads are using 180 grain SP at present, which is giving me the tightest groups yet.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:35 PM   #5
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Winchester or S&B were giving me groups well enough to hunt with.....

They are 180 grain.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:51 PM   #6
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Stay clear of the Olympic greek junk. These are the most inaccurate rounds out there for just about anything that eats 7.62x54. Ammo, Ammunition, Rifle Ammunition, 9mm Ammo, Military Surplus has some solid ammo, but you pay out too much for shipping.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:10 PM   #7
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As you can see, most people have better success with the 180's.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:57 PM   #8
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But just to be the oddball, i'll chime in and tell you mine like the 165-174 grain bullets I put thru them.

I still haven't experimented much with the 110 grain Sierra's i bought awhile ago.....they autta zing.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:28 PM   #9
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Not sure if you reload, but you really should. It is the best way to really appreciate the flexibility of your rifle. With the same 10/80 Bulgy I am able to reload various bullets for paper, big game, varmints, paper, and even zombies. I pull milsurp bullets and reuse the rest, ammo with stick powder is best, as there was not enough room to load a 110gr with flake powder.



My MN eats about anything, and groups best with 147-149 milsurp or the 174 gr 303 cal bullets (on paper)

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Old 12-07-2009, 03:06 PM   #10
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I forgot to add that my 91 mosin likes the 203 grain soft point Silver Bear. The M44 doesn't. Anyway, ammunitiontogo has steel core ammo at the moment, so if you are looking to stock up get this while available.
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:46 PM   #11
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Quote:       Originally Posted by gandog56 View Post
Most milsurp is 147-149 grains. Except like Bulgie heavy ball, which was like 182 grains, but I haven't seen any of it around any more. There is some Yugo M30 182 grain.
i found some heavy ball at a local pawn for $8.00 for 20 rounds. my 91/30 loves it. but i HATE cleaning it. 60 rounds takes me about 150 patches and a wire brush.
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:57 PM   #12
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I use these:

Hornady Bullets 303 Caliber and 7.7mm Japanese (3105 Diameter) 174 Grain Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail Box of 100 - MidwayUSA
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Old 12-07-2009, 06:01 PM   #13
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My Mosins seem to prefer the heavier loads - I have Hungarian Heavy Ball, at 182 grain. Shoots better for me than the Czech Silvertip, 147 grain.
My handloads are using 180 grain SP at present, which is giving me the tightest groups yet.
I'm pretty sure only my long rifles do better with heavy ball. All my carbines seem to prefer light ball.
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Old 12-07-2009, 06:04 PM   #14
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Stay clear of the Olympic greek junk. These are the most inaccurate rounds out there for just about anything that eats 7.62x54. Ammo, Ammunition, Rifle Ammunition, 9mm Ammo, Military Surplus has some solid ammo, but you pay out too much for shipping.
Does Olympic even MAKE 7.62X54R? I've never seen any.
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My Mosins have all and only shot Bulgarian light ball, 147 gr. corrosive ammo. Good cleaning afterward will keep it going. I have thought about pulling bullets to load others in their place for hunting. But, I have one MN I scout scoped and would like to load for that to hunt with sometime. But my experiences are good with Bulgie LB. Still pretty cheap too.
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Old 12-08-2009, 07:32 PM   #16
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Does Olympic even MAKE 7.62X54R? I've never seen any.
Yeah, they make it, but its all junk. I found a box at a local shop. I shot the whole box, but they had all kinds of ignition and feed problems in my 91/30 and M38. The crimping wasn't great either, on one occasion, the bullet was driven back into the case and the bullet was too deep to fire.

It was old ammo, but it was junk.
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Old 12-09-2009, 08:41 AM   #17
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i found some heavy ball at a local pawn for $8.00 for 20 rounds. my 91/30 loves it. but i HATE cleaning it. 60 rounds takes me about 150 patches and a wire brush.

Use something with a high ammonia count like Shooter's Choice or if you can stand the fumes; Butch's Bore Shine.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:12 AM   #18
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Use something with a high ammonia count like Shooter's Choice or if you can stand the fumes; Butch's Bore Shine.
i still dont understand why or why not the ammonia based cleaners. can someone explain? preferably one or two from each school of thought
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:34 AM   #19
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i still dont understand why or why not the ammonia based cleaners. can someone explain? preferably one or two from each school of thought
ammonia is for removing copper fouling. water washes away corrosive salts from berdan primers. people like windex when washing away the salts because it has ammonia that helps with the copper fouling. i'm of the opinion that there's not enough ammonia in it to do anything. i've never pulled a green patch after using windex.
if you shoot boxer primed cartridges, clean as normal without water.
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i found some heavy ball at a local pawn for $8.00 for 20 rounds. my 91/30 loves it. but i HATE cleaning it. 60 rounds takes me about 150 patches and a wire brush.
you're paying too much. mail order! buy a bore snake too. you'll love it.
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