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Old 01-26-2010, 12:23 PM   #1
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EOTW and Glenn Beck

I just thought I would post something about the Glenn Beck show. There was some buzz about his documentary Friday on communists and todays progressive movement, but I'm not sure how many survival oriented people actually listen to him. I've been listening to his radio show for several years now and he's the only radio host I've ever heard promote survivalist ideas such as growing your own food, preserving food, getting back to previously common skills needed to survive a world-wide collapse, and who is openly pro gun - he even talked at length at one time about teaching his wife and children how to use his guns in the event it was ever needed.

I find his show much more entertaining than the others as well. Hannity's monotonous and repetative speech annoys me. Not that I necessarily disagree with what he's saying, I just don't like listening to him. LoL Beck is also the only one, besides Jim Quinn of Quinn and Rose, who doesn't spend the show throwing out the days talking points from some political party.

Anyway, I find it educational because of the in-depth historical analysis Beck uses when he's making a point. Are there any other survival oriented programs that I could try to find out there? I know about the typical ones... man vs wild and survivorman. Anything else? I watched the history channel show Apocolypse Man with Rudy Reyes. I found it interesting, but nothing more than that. There wasn't anything ground-breaking about what he was presenting.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:56 PM   #2
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try googling radio show survival programing.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:57 PM   #3
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milproakron, there isn't alot out there for the survivalist, your best bet if ya want more shows or videos to watch would be to go to different "survival" sites and watch the videos they provide, other then that there isnt a whole lot that the main stream cable tv has to offer
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Old 01-26-2010, 02:11 PM   #4
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Could you possibly PM some links to me? I'm sure there are bad ones out there I'll have to wade through...
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milproakron, there isn't alot out there for the survivalist, your best bet if ya want more shows or videos to watch would be to go to different "survival" sites and watch the videos they provide, other then that there isnt a whole lot that the main stream cable tv has to offer
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Old 01-26-2010, 02:27 PM   #5
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i can try, i usuall just find them randomly when looking for gear and stuff, but yeah i will see what i can do!
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Old 01-26-2010, 03:04 PM   #6
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Anything with Bear Grylls because he is the man.
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Old 01-26-2010, 03:07 PM   #7
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search different YouTube videos.. I know there are alot of crappy ones out there, but there are alot of good informational ones..
Use keywords like: Bushcraft, campcraft, DIY food, anything you can think of survival wise..
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Old 01-26-2010, 06:44 PM   #8
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mil, goo to google and then to videos and type in "survival gear" and it will bring you up a mess of vids... ya then just got to sort the crap from the gold if ya know what i mean...
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Old 01-26-2010, 06:48 PM   #9
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I feel EXACTLY the same way Beck vs. Hannity. Sean talks in a way I can't stand!

The problem with Beck is I'm pretty darn sure he's right....
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Old 01-26-2010, 07:21 PM   #10
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go to a great survivalist blog site.... www.survivalblog.com

I agree that Beck is probably right on the money with much of what he says. My only gripe is that he cries too much on the tube.
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Old 01-26-2010, 07:47 PM   #11
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Thanks for all the links and ideas guys. I really appreciate it. I'm trying to take my own survival skills to the next level and usually get, "The military taught you survival. That should work." LoL But I always feel like there must be something lacking in what I've gone through... or that I'm missing something. Usually military survival training is for short term. I need to find stuff on long term conditions.
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:57 AM   #12
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Also, try pioneerliving.net for a more "back to earth" approach. It is oriented toward long term survival handling.
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:25 AM   #13
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Anything with Bear Grylls because he is the man.
Bear Grylls was busted as a Phony....It has been all over the internet...
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Old 01-27-2010, 07:33 AM   #14
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Bear Grylls was busted as a Phony....It has been all over the internet...
Bear isn't a phony. In his show, sometimes he isn't actually out in the wild for a week at a time, etc. But, he never claims to be. Its a show to educate you on survival technique, not to test just how tough Bear is. LoL I know alot of people give him shit over stuff like that, but the techniques he's teaching are all valid. Its no different than your college professor, most often someone who's never worked in the field he is teaching.... it doesn't mean what he's teaching you is BS.
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Its no different than your college professor, most often someone who's never worked in the field he is teaching.... it doesn't mean what he's teaching you is BS.
I'm glad to see someone else point this out.. Everyone is always like; "Les Stroud is the man because he's out there by himself with his camera.. Bear Grylls has a camera crew and goes to hotels at night!!"
Well, I can't wait for the day Les falls and really breaks his leg and is stuck out there for real.. Lets see how long his "rescue team" takes to find him frozen in the tundra..
I think Bear is the smart one.. He's famous and knows what he's talking about, why risk killing yourself to prove you can start a fire in a downpour?
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I'm glad to see someone else point this out.. Everyone is always like; "Les Stroud is the man because he's out there by himself with his camera.. Bear Grylls has a camera crew and goes to hotels at night!!"
Well, I can't wait for the day Les falls and really breaks his leg and is stuck out there for real.. Lets see how long his "rescue team" takes to find him frozen in the tundra..
I think Bear is the smart one.. He's famous and knows what he's talking about, why risk killing yourself to prove you can start a fire in a downpour?
When you have your own show and are part of a television company, you have to be a part of the union. There are rules when that happens... safety rules, insurance rules, etc. Its why Jackie Chan can't do most of his own stunts anymore when that was what made him famous in Hong Kong and foreign made movies. When he came here, because of the safety rules, he was no longer allowed to do the things he used to do.

A better example would be your local fire marshal. When he's teaching kids what to do if they catch fire; stop drop and roll... he's not going to actually set himself on fire to prove the point. LoL
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bear Grylls teaches real methods. I don't care how he goes about things. Les Stroud seldom ever found food and almost starved every show, when he did kill animals he felt compelled to apologize for it and say how much he disliked it. Bear doesn't apologize for killing, he seems to relish it. I like that. I also like Glenn Beck.
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I just thought I would post something about the Glenn Beck show. There was some buzz about his documentary Friday on communists and todays progressive movement, but I'm not sure how many survival oriented people actually listen to him. I've been listening to his radio show for several years now and he's the only radio host I've ever heard promote survivalist ideas such as growing your own food, preserving food, getting back to previously common skills needed to survive a world-wide collapse, and who is openly pro gun - he even talked at length at one time about teaching his wife and children how to use his guns in the event it was ever needed.
Glenn Beck is pro fence. He got an exclusion from his neighborhood controls on how high his fence could be in order to keep his opposition out. And you won't find any vegetable gardens on his property.
Glenn laughs at the people who listens to his show. In an interview he called himself a "rodeo clown".
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I find his show much more entertaining than the others as well.
His show is entertaining. It's neither Democratic crappola nor Republican crappola - A fantastic difference from the other channels.
Instead, it's Libertarian crappola, a refreshing change of shitola.
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Hannity's monotonous and repetative speech annoys me. Not that I necessarily disagree with what he's saying, I just don't like listening to him. LoL
Sean Hannity will spout Republican views no matter how wrong they are until hell freezes over. The moment he stops spouting his stupidity, he'll lose his job.
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Beck is also the only one, besides Jim Quinn of Quinn and Rose, who doesn't spend the show throwing out the days talking points from some political party.
To be different from Republicans and Democrats, Beck had to declare himself to be something else. What does he call himself? - A Libertarian. That's a guy who has the "liberty" to be wrong about everything.
Notice he never offers a solution to the problems he points out? He's got none.
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Anyway, I find it educational because of the in-depth historical analysis Beck uses when he's making a point.
Most of Beck's historical analysis' date back before December 7, 1941 - making him 69 years out of date. It isn't that he's wrong for certain but all economic thought since then is based upon the assumption that he is.
But he is certainly very entertaining considering that the Republican and Democratic channels have absolutely no economic basis to them at all (Hence, the birth of the "Tea Party").
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Are there any other survival oriented programs that I could try to find out there? I know about the typical ones... man vs wild and survivorman.
I can say with absolute certainty that "Survival Man" is pure crappola. He's an idiot supreme. In his "Alaska show" he nearly starved to death surrounded by food. The reason - the locals fed him full of BS before the show and he was too stupid to catch on to it. Being from central Canada he didn't know about clams and oysters. The locals must still be laughing about the load of crappola they fed him. They had him eating kelp! That's a frigging ROPE to the natives.
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Anything else? I watched the history channel show Apocolypse Man with Rudy Reyes. I found it interesting, but nothing more than that. There wasn't anything ground-breaking about what he was presenting.
For survivalism, I watch the Military Channel for their SNIPER series. These guys are trained to survive. Only about 10% applies to us but that 10% is UNBEATABLE.

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I watch Glen Beck.
And have his books.
Yet, my gut says he has a hidden agenda.
Not exactly sure what it is yet.

I do know he has his hand in a couple different business ventures.
As for being a resent, pro gun convert.
This is something that he has done, just in the last ten years.
Which I commend him on.
I am troubled by some of his most recent comments.
On Debra Medina, and the sorry excuse he gave as a apology.
I have a different view on Libertarians.
No offense to any that might be here.
To me a Libertarian, is a like a stoner high on pot. sitting on the fence.
They comfortably sit stoned, and talk technicalities, about the other parties.
Yet they cant make a simple decision, and don't jump down off the fence.
And get their hands dirty, tying to HELP SOLVE the problems.
The tea party's are a good thing.
As long as, they don't get too big, or radical.
I pray they do NOT, try to start a third political party.
Which is what the MSN, and Democrats want!

I have seen a couple of each of those "survival" shows. (my wife likes them)
And, I was not too overly impressed.

In my opinion, get yourself, a old Boy Scout Field book.
And a few military survival FM/TM's, and older survival books.
History, biography's, encyclopedia's, farmers almanac's, are all good book sources.
The new stuff, is all about selling you something.
That you either don't need, or you could probably make yourself.

Just my thoughts.
Enough gabbing for me tonight!
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I believe Glenn Beck would say it is good to question the motives of anyone.I personally don't trust anyone that spouts politics or religeon,or a combination of the two. ,,,sam.
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