Old 01-26-2010, 10:22 PM   #1
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What will it take to bring down the gas prices.A quick check shows LA has a .18 fuel tax and they pay 2.75 NY with a 31.9 cent tax pays 2.63 and Hawaii with their 16 cent tax still at 3.09. Is anybody in Juneau not owned by these people.
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:29 PM   #2
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bringing down fuel prices, as with many other problems the ever stressed and ever pressured middle class experience, will take the political will of the people to abandon the Democratic and Republican political machines fed by big money interests.

I, for one, more and more embrace Libertarianism.
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:38 PM   #3
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bringing down fuel prices, as with many other problems the ever stressed and ever pressured middle class experience, will take the political will of the people to abandon the Democratic and Republican political machines fed by big money interests.

I, for one, more and more embrace Libertarianism.
And just what is the Libertarian way?

I just paid $4.89 for fuel!!
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Old 01-27-2010, 04:00 AM   #4
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libertarianism is a movement away from governmental power empowering
the legal citizens with greater freedom.

A central theme of libertarianism is the goal of government to meet the needs and desires of the people as opposed to special interest groups, lawyers, big money, and bigger corporations.

To paraphrase a famous saying it is "Ask not what the citizens can do for the government but what can the government do for the citizens".

Is it really a viable goal of our nation to have a system wherein big oil makes profits in the billions as has been observed in recent years?
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Old 01-27-2010, 04:41 AM   #5
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What will it take to bring down the gas prices.A quick check shows LA has a .18 fuel tax and they pay 2.75 NY with a 31.9 cent tax pays 2.63 and Hawaii with their 16 cent tax still at 3.09. Is anybody in Juneau not owned by these people.
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Lower Insurance rates for Fuel Trucks...Currently at about 250,000 dollars a year per truck...More Oil flowing thru the Pipes, A glut of Oil, More Oil wells and refinerys and shoot every wall street trader driving up futures prices !
Thats what it will take...
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[quote=nathangdad;bringing down fuel prices, as with many other problems the ever stressed and ever pressured middle class experience, will take the political will of the people to abandon the Democratic and Republican political machines fed by big money interests.

I, for one, more and more embrace Libertarianism.[/QUOTE]

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Quote:       Originally Posted by nathangdad View Post
libertarianism is a movement away from governmental power empowering
the legal citizens with greater freedom.

A central theme of libertarianism is the goal of government to meet the needs and desires of the people as opposed to special interest groups, lawyers, big money, and bigger corporations.

To paraphrase a famous saying it is "Ask not what the citizens can do for the government but what can the government do for the citizens".

Is it really a viable goal of our nation to have a system wherein big oil makes profits in the billions as has been observed in recent years?
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I know what Libertarianism is.

I wanted to know what the Libertarian view of:
"bringing down fuel prices' was.


As I don't/never will buy into the Bill O'Rielly.
"Big Oil is the only one to blame for the high cost of fuel".

Not when you actually see what the environmental expense, production, transportation costs are. Compared to what the profit is per gallon, to produce fuel.

Like anything, simply follow the $.
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:57 AM   #7
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per the 2003 study jointly by C.N.N. and Time Magazine for the continental U.S. the true cost of bringing a barrel out of the ground was roughly $10.00 per barrel. For Saudi Arabia it was $2.50 per barrel. For Iraq it was less than $1.00 per barrel.

The study found in 2003 if the major oil companies were not allowed to use their accounting tricks for the cost of crude oil and it was a truly a free world market for crude oil the price per barrel of crude oil would be $12.50 on the world market.

I realize this was a 2003 study but it is not that far in the past.

Although Nixon was a president with many problems he did try to set up the United States as a monopoly importer of oil with the government setting the price it would pay thus putting the OPEC pricing out the door, so to speak.

The U.S. government would then sell the oil to the refiners in America allowing them to make a reasonable return on their investments in refineries and distribution thus providing gasoline, diesel, heating oil, and other products at a much lower cost to the American citizen.

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Old 01-27-2010, 12:08 PM   #8
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We pay increased gasoline prices to subsidize the refineries lucrative jet fuel market. By charging us more they can keep down the price on jet fuel. This is what the Legislature determined after their "in depth" investigation !!
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We pay increased gasoline prices to subsidize the refineries lucrative jet fuel market. By charging us more they can keep down the price on jet fuel. This is what the Legislature determined after their "in depth" investigation !!
BINGO!!!!!!

Just another of the multitude of "hidden taxes" our gubmint has strangled US with.
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