01-29-2010, 06:15 PM
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#1 | | Firearm Aficionado
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Idaho | Anti hunters using the internet and public records
this is wrong and I see it as just the start for these kind of attacks. if it seems succesful how long before all of us hunters will have our names on the internet. all you need is a name and city and you can google someones phone number and address and more. BOISE, Idaho (AP) - A Boise wolf advocate has used a public records request to get the names of hunters who reported killing a wolf in Idaho and posted all 122 names on a Web site. Rick Hobson also bought an ad in the Idaho Statesman that directed people to the Web site. A search by The Associated Press identified the Web site at http://wildwolves.homeip.net/TagKills.html. Hobson says his intention in getting the names from the Idaho Department of Fish and Game was not to cause the hunters to be targeted for harassment by wolf hunt opponents. But he says hunters who bagged wolves have by default inserted themselves into the debate. Robert Millage is the state's first successful wolf hunter. He says he's been dealing with harassment since he killed a wolf last September on the opening day of the season. Information from: Idaho Statesman, http://www.idahostatesman.com Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Wolf Advocate Puts Hunters' Names on Web site - KIFI - Idaho Falls, Pocatello, Jackson WY - Weather News Sports-
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01-29-2010, 07:25 PM
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#2 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska |
Not surprising !!
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01-29-2010, 07:46 PM
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#3 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pennsylvania | They can come visit me any time they want. I love company,only thing is i just might keep em here fer a spell....................................
I was googling a shot gun a few weeks ago and sure enough a post came up with this web site and a members name who had written the story.......????
It really don't bother me nor does it surprise me none its the internet and yu'll have that.
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01-29-2010, 08:06 PM
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#4 | | Firearm Aficionado
Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fort Lauderdale |
Whats the Bag limit Earl?
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01-29-2010, 08:09 PM
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#5 | | Firearm Aficionado
Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ottawa Kansas |
and are the pelts worth anything???
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01-29-2010, 09:45 PM
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#6 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Iowa |
I don't care who knows I hunt or what I kill. Most times I have an animal hanging in my driveway.
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01-30-2010, 06:50 AM
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#7 | | Yeah I got a pink gun!
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Jayhawk Country |
I had my picture with a dead turkey posted on a Peta website one time. I thought it was funny.
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01-30-2010, 07:25 AM
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#8 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MO |
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Originally Posted by Idaho Dave this is wrong and I see it as just the start for these kind of attacks. if it seems succesful how long before all of us hunters will have our names on the internet. all you need is a name and city and you can google someones phone number and address and more. BOISE, Idaho (AP) - A Boise wolf advocate has used a public records request to get the names of hunters who reported killing a wolf in Idaho and posted all 122 names on a Web site. Rick Hobson also bought an ad in the Idaho Statesman that directed people to the Web site. A search by The Associated Press identified the Web site at http://wildwolves.homeip.net/TagKills.html. Hobson says his intention in getting the names from the Idaho Department of Fish and Game was not to cause the hunters to be targeted for harassment by wolf hunt opponents. But he says hunters who bagged wolves have by default inserted themselves into the debate. Robert Millage is the state's first successful wolf hunter. He says he's been dealing with harassment since he killed a wolf last September on the opening day of the season. Information from: Idaho Statesman, http://www.idahostatesman.com Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Wolf Advocate Puts Hunters' Names on Web site - KIFI - Idaho Falls, Pocatello, Jackson WY - Weather News Sports- | All 122 hunters listed should file a lawsuit against Hobson. It is legal to acquire names from public records but it isn't legal to post those names in any derogatory manner. Even if no one won the suite, Hobson would fall into financial decay defending his actions. The suites need to be filed individually so Hobson has to defend against 122 law suites instead of one class action suite...devious mind games work in both directions.
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01-30-2010, 08:22 AM
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#9 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" |
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Originally Posted by oldjarhead | All 122 hunters listed should file a lawsuit against Hobson. It is legal to acquire names from public records but it isn't legal to post those names in any derogatory manner. Even if no one won the suite, Hobson would fall into financial decay defending his actions. The suites need to be filed individually so Hobson has to defend against 122 law suites instead of one class action suite...devious mind games work in both directions. | Even if no one won the suite, Hobson would fall into financial decay defending his actions.
That is where your legal system is SO wrong and needs fixing. In my country, if you sue somebody & lose your law suit, you pay all court costs & the defending party's costs. Stops frivolous suits.
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01-30-2010, 08:52 AM
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#10 | | Firearm Zealot |
Simple counter attack to this nonsense........
have the names and addresses of Hobson and his merry band of thugs printed in the paper and on the Internet, with the notice that THESE people are Antigun and unarmed..........
Fight fire WITH fire.
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01-30-2010, 09:03 AM
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#11 | | Firearm Aficionado
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Central NJ |
There's got to something done about that. They could be putting these hunters and their families in danger. Yeah they may be unarmed antigunner/antihunter but get one kook in the bunch that values a legally hunted animal's life over another human being's life. Or imagine a bunch of these nut jobs protesting in front of someones house and things get a little heated and someone ends up hurt or dead.
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01-30-2010, 09:44 AM
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#12 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Iowa |
This is America where it is legal to protest. Don't want to start taking rights away just cause they disagree with our lifestyle.
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01-30-2010, 01:35 PM
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#13 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country |
Yes Rambo this is America and you do have the right to protest or dissent upon any issue important to you. Your right to that stops 1 foot from my nose sir and neither you nor I or anyone else has the right to disseminate information about addresses phone numbers or places of employment with the INTENT (and clearly that is exactly what this shitbirds intent was) to incite violence. No more right than PETA has to throw things upon people who wear fur or leather products, steal livestock or research animals. No more right than an idiot who feels "Entitled" to take the life of another simply because he feels he is "Protecting" the unborn. And Sir just because these people may disagree with me about what I do , eat, use or wear they are prohibited by FEDERAL LAW from interferring with or harrassment of any individual engaged in ANY lawful outdoor or other pursuit.
OBTW these morons think their views, opinions and pursuits transcend yours and mine whether it is hunting, fishing, eating meat, horseback riding, ownership of firearms, personal defense or any other pursuit they disagree with. In their minds you have NO rights because according to them you're wrong and NEED to be punished according to their beliefs.
I subscribe to a live and let live policy, if you do not agree with me that is your right, if I do not agree with you that is my right. And Each has a right through proper channels to effect change. However neither has the right under any precept of law or common justice to interject directly into the lawful activities of another ever!
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01-30-2010, 02:31 PM
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#14 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: atlanta, but much rather be in valdosta |
find out who does it, and do the same. also boycott any publication that allows them to post such information
honestly i would be like "hell ya i killed a wolf, dont mess with me mother ******"
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01-30-2010, 05:19 PM
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#15 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Iowa |
In order for me to get a CCW permit in my county of residence, I must agree to the open records laws of the State of Iowa and that means anyone can get my name as a CCW permit holder. If I choose not to want my name made public accessable, I don't get a CCW permit. It's the law and until it changes, that's the way it is. Same way with hunting license information, it's subject to open records laws if anyone chooses to pursue them.
Now, with that information, no one may enter my property with the intent of doing anything untoward to myself or my property. That also is a protection under the law.
Every year I apply for a moose tag in Maine or an antelope tag in South Dakota. That's all public record, accessable by anyone. If I don't like it, I don't apply. No conspiracy, just the law.
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01-30-2010, 05:44 PM
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#16 | | Super Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Gladstone, Mo. (kc area) |
Rambo - Do you EVER find anything on this site that you can quietly agree with. You obviously delight in trying to rub the other mans rhubarb.
Why ?
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01-30-2010, 06:29 PM
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#17 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MO |
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Originally Posted by wunhunglo | Even if no one won the suite, Hobson would fall into financial decay defending his actions. That is where your legal system is SO wrong and needs fixing. In my country, if you sue somebody & lose your law suit, you pay all court costs & the defending party's costs. Stops frivolous suits. | It's the same here...the loser pays all. Just considering the possibility of suites being dropped or discharged by a court. Anyway...frivilous law suite are a means of income to some folks in this country.
I believe you missed the point of my post.
Payback's a medivac...in this case financial medivac.
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01-30-2010, 08:08 PM
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#18 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Iowa |
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Originally Posted by FortyXDM | Rambo - Do you EVER find anything on this site that you can quietly agree with. You obviously delight in trying to rub the other mans rhubarb.
Why ? | I think that retaliating against someone who has not broken the law is ridiculous and am just pointing out that these laws are all over the country. Are we hunters/gun owners going to attack everyone who has a differing opinion from us? Disagreement is one thing but talks of retaliation is crossing a line.
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01-30-2010, 08:21 PM
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#19 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: atlanta, but much rather be in valdosta |
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Originally Posted by Rambo | I think that retaliating against someone who has not broken the law is ridiculous and am just pointing out that these laws are all over the country. Are we hunters/gun owners going to attack everyone who has a differing opinion from us? Disagreement is one thing but talks of retaliation is crossing a line. | ya, not only is it unethical but its just out and out rude
these people who do these attacks have no shame or respect, and so they should be treated as the pile of crap they are and shunned by any self respecting american
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01-30-2010, 08:34 PM
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#20 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Branch In |
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Originally Posted by Rambo | In order for me to get a CCW permit in my county of residence, I must agree to the open records laws of the State of Iowa and that means anyone can get my name as a CCW permit holder. If I choose not to want my name made public accessable, I don't get a CCW permit. It's the law and until it changes, that's the way it is. Same way with hunting license information, it's subject to open records laws if anyone chooses to pursue them.
Now, with that information, no one may enter my property with the intent of doing anything untoward to myself or my property. That also is a protection under the law.
Every year I apply for a moose tag in Maine or an antelope tag in South Dakota. That's all public record, accessable by anyone. If I don't like it, I don't apply. No conspiracy, just the law. | Here in INdiana we have legislation moving forward to make handgun license information private.
I wonder how long before the start harassing coyote hunters here in Indiana? That`s why we are working to make LTCH date private, newspapers were publishing it.
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