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Old 02-22-2010, 03:13 PM   #21
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I also had my 12ga with me as I had just gotten it the day before and so I shot 3 rds out of it first and asked her a 2nd and 3rd time if she wanted to shoot it. She said yes and so I stood behind her and she shot the first one A-OK. She pumped the slide and the 2nd shot didn't go so well as she was wearing an extra coat because it was extra cold and because of the recoil...well anyways the recoil jarred her arm but she was ok.
Sounds great! I hope her arm was ok, I know I've taken a beating from a 12ga now and then by not being able to feel the gun through my clothes.

I prefer starting people with that little SxS 20ga because its heavy and a its 20ga, so they are mentally prepared better. It is very simple to use and shoot. I know they can handle the recoil, because I could. It was the first gun I ever shot when I was about 8 yrs old.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:15 PM   #22
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Sounds great! I hope her arm was ok, I know I've taken a beating from a 12ga now and then by not being able to feel the gun through my clothes.

I prefer starting people with that little SxS 20ga because its heavy and a its 20ga, so they are mentally prepared better. It is very simple to use and shoot. I know they can handle the recoil, because I could. It was the first gun I ever shot when I was about 8 yrs old.
Yeah she's fine, she's back down in the town she lives in and I miss her so much!!! She said she can't wait to go shooting again. She was all sorts of giggling after she shot the pistol.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:31 PM   #23
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What ever you do ,don`t "over gun her." Plus, she may or may not like the sport . Not all are into it.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:57 PM   #24
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What ever you do ,don`t "over gun her." Plus, she may or may not like the sport . Not all are into it.

Yeah next time it will be just the SKS and the CZ-52. She had an awesome time and so did I. I'm gonna talk to my landlord today after work and see what her thoughts on guns in the apts are. There isn't anything against it in the lease so hopefully she won't have a problem.
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:14 PM   #25
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Yeah next time it will be just the SKS and the CZ-52. She had an awesome time and so did I. I'm gonna talk to my landlord today after work and see what her thoughts on guns in the apts are. There isn't anything against it in the lease so hopefully she won't have a problem.
Not recommended. If your landlord asks, that's one thing. Don't make the mistake of offering more information than neccessary!!
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:18 PM   #26
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Not recommended. If your landlord asks, that's one thing. Don't make the mistake of offering more information than neccessary!!
So I should just bring them into my apt then? Absolutely nowhere in the lease does it even have the word gun or firearm.
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:40 PM   #27
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I dont know if this has been mentioned before but my advice would be give her something fun to shoot. By that I mean something that will give instant feeback for when she hits it.

I recommend using used water bottles (or any plastic bottle) filled with water. Place them in the open so that when she shoots them they jump and explode. Hollow point .22 rounds at about 15-25 yards are extremely effective. To spice it up, add food coloring to the water. Red (if she is not squeemish or imaginative (I do not mean that as an insult, btw) or green)

From my opinion, and my experience, instant gratification is extremely important to having someone like what they are doing.
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:48 PM   #28
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...Women also tend to favor handguns over long guns...
If you have an AR with a collapsible stock, that's probably a really good choice. Women often have different ideas of comfortable length then we do.
I think that has a lot to do with their preference for handguns; most long guns simply aren't sized to be comfortable for women. Even a woman as tall as yourself will have narrower shoulders, therefore a shorter reach, and will be less comfortable with a rifle that fits you fine.

Introduce her to the .22 first, and then some heavy, standard-caliber guns and let her get really comfortable with those before trying any compacts or magnums.
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:52 PM   #29
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Years ago, when stationed in California.

A friends sister flew in from the East coast, as a surprise visit.
She was a true "city" girl, from Connecticut.
This happened to be a couple of days.
Prior to a guys week of shooting, 4X4'ing camping in the desert.
When she saw us preparing for the trip.
She had no problem, expressing her outspoken views on guns!

So I decided to let her actually see, certain parts of downtown LA.
While driving my 79 Ford 4x4, with 48" tires on it.
She rode in the front seat.

The locals didn't care for my style of transportation, too much.
Nor that my horn played Dixie,and the Ga. flag license plate!

She was scared, and wanted out of there fast!
When we came to a stop sign or traffic light.
She started shaking in fear.
I pulled out my .45.
And set it on the seat, between us.
Her brother pulled out his CAR.
And L&L, in the back seat
Her reply was "Thank God"!

After leaving LA. we stopped at a truck stop.
So she could use the bathroom, and we had a burger.
She said she wanted to fly home, early.

Well, talked her out of it.
That weekend, we spent 3-4 days, of pure fun.
She had never shot a gun in her life.
But we started her off with .22 revolver.
And progressed her up to certain weapons, the dont shoot single shots.
And had the time of her life.

After a couple more visits.
A year + later, she ended up marrying.
Another crazy friend, from the swamps of Louisiana.
Just listening to these two opposite accents, was hilarious!
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Old 02-22-2010, 05:08 PM   #30
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I completely agree with starting with something mild to medium. Mild might mean a heavier gun that recoils lightly due to weight.

I'd feel more comfortable handing a lady a 1911 than a Makarov for that reason. Full size 9mm is good.

22LR is good too, but it should be jam-free. Jams freak women out. Manually operated is a good idea.

Women also tend to favor handguns over long guns, but then the safety training becomes more critical - it's easy to accidentally sweep a firing line with a handgun.

If you have an AR with a collapsible stock, that's probably a really good choice. Women often have different ideas of comfortable length then we do.

I started my gal out on the SKS with a Tapco stock. I had it at full length and she said it was kinda hard to hold so I bumped the stock down to the mid-length and she said that was better. She put all 10 on the paper. Then the pistol which she really liked. Both guns had some chambering problems but it didn't freak her out I just showed her what to do and she was fine. She enjoyed it alot. I just talked to her just a few minutes ago on my break and said to her "next time we'll just shoot the SKS and the pistol." She immediately said "I want to shoot the shotgun again!! This time without that extra coat if it's not so cold. I want to get better at shooting the pistol too!!!"
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Old 02-22-2010, 06:11 PM   #31
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I started my wife out on the 20ga, 9mm, and 40SW. She loved it all. One really fun trick to do is go to walmart and get one mini helium tank, balloons and string. Take and fill half the balloons with water and half with helium then you tie the floating balloons to the water balloons and set them at different distances. I took turns with my wife shooting the water balloons with a pistol and the floating balloons with with 20ga. After a bit we started shooting with 2 pistols for a challenge.

*make sure you have a very open area for this if you plan on shooting the pistols at the balloons flying away, we have about 75 miles of forest and fields behind us. Google map can help you with this a lot.
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Old 02-22-2010, 07:44 PM   #32
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My fiancee was in the Army during the first Gulf War, so I didn't have a real problem with her. She's shot 1000yd. matches with me. But my ex-wife had absolutely no interest in even trying, so I didn't push it, I did my thing and she did hers. I guess that probably didn't really help things.
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Old 02-22-2010, 08:55 PM   #33
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I took my gf out shooting yesterday. First time she's ever shot a gun. Started with my SKS, I fired 10 rounds and then loaded up the gun and stood behind her and held her as she held and fired the gun and did this with my CZ-52 pistol as well. She had a lot of fun and so did I.
Some woman can handle it and like it. But the fact is and since this poster has pointed out she's not into it or perceptive to the idea, and because from what else I understand she hasn't even been around them much at all or at all period, I really didn't think it would be a good idea.

I understand your woman liked it. That's cool. But others just don't.

And hey, you do now know you'll probably have to get her her OWN SKS or that you've probably yours? lol
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Old 02-22-2010, 10:44 PM   #34
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So I should just bring them into my apt then? Absolutely nowhere in the lease does it even have the word gun or firearm.
That is correct. You have 2A rights and it's none of their business what you have. Just be discrete going in and out.
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Old 02-23-2010, 03:56 PM   #35
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That is correct. You have 2A rights and it's none of their business what you have. Just be discrete going in and out.
I called anyways just to get their verbal answer and a good buddy of mine/my dad's answered the phone he's one of the plumbers in town and he's also the contracted repairman for the apt building and he said "no problems with guns at all, if there was something wrong with guns being in the apts then the mgr gonna have some problems cause she has lots of them." So it's all good. He come up to the apt cause he had some problems with his cell phone and immediately when he come in he saw my SKS and goes "oooh a Tapco'd SKS!!!"
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Old 02-23-2010, 10:11 PM   #36
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I called anyways just to get their verbal answer and a good buddy of mine/my dad's answered the phone he's one of the plumbers in town and he's also the contracted repairman for the apt building and he said "no problems with guns at all, if there was something wrong with guns being in the apts then the mgr gonna have some problems cause she has lots of them." So it's all good. He come up to the apt cause he had some problems with his cell phone and immediately when he come in he saw my SKS and goes "oooh a Tapco'd SKS!!!"
Nice talkin' at ya' on the phone. Just gotta be careful nowadays.
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Old 02-23-2010, 10:32 PM   #37
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When I had met my Fiancee she had never fired a firearm in her life. The funny thing is, she is second generation Swiss-American LOL. Her Dad hunted when she was growing up, but never took her out to make noise.
So shortly after we started going out we went to a local indoor range and rented a little .22" calibre automatic, think it was a Browning or Ruger? That was a while back anyway. She did all right for a beginner. Took her a bit to get used to actually firing a firearm.

Fast forward to shortly before Christmas, we went to another indoor range (it is nice that they are indoor and all, but they are so bloody expensive, that is why I don't get to shoot much down here) to fire something a bit bigger than a little .22". I took my Webley & Scott Ltd. Mk.IV Revolver and my British WWII S&W M&P "Victory Model" Revolver, both of which are chambered for the .380" Calibre Revolver Cartridge (aka the .38" S&W, ".380"/200", or ".38"/200"). I also took my S&W Model 10-5 .38" Special Revolver.

She was nervous, but had the courage to fire the "massive .38" Special" LOL. She fired one round, then froze. I think the blast and noise (yes we had hearing protection of course) was a shock to her, even after watching me fire a couple cylinders full. She had no trouble with recoil thought, which was good. Took her a few minutes to burn up the rest of the cylinder, but she did go on. I think she fired a few more cylinders of .38" Special, then got the hang of firing a revolver. So I started firing the Webley and Victory Model in the next lane, all the time hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom (when I shoot my revolvers I only load one row of five cartridges from the ammo box instead of the full six, that is how I showed her when shooting at the range), then a pause to reload, then Boom, Boom...LOL.

We switched revolvers from time to time. I think she ended up burning up two and half boxes of .38" Special and a box and half of .38" S&W LOL. One funny incident LOL, she reloaded the .38" Special once and tried to fire and had a dud, then she waited a bit to make sure it was not a hang fire, then tried to fire again, same thing..click.
So she tells me something is wrong, so I take a look...she had loaded fired cases LOL. I had a half box of wadcutters and loaded empties by mistake, guess you had to be there LOL.

So, she had fun, wants to try it again sometime in the near future. I don't think she is going to rush out and buy a Webley & Scott Mk.VI .455" Revolver (then again she is Swiss-American and might not want the English firearms I love because of my ancestry, maybe she will want a Sig instead LOL)anytime soon LOL, but wants to shoot again.
We had one "incident" that took some talking and time out, that was after the first round she fired from the S&W Model 10. The good news is, she was 110% safe with keeping her finger off the trigger and the muzzle did not leave it's down range orientation once, so that made me happy LOL.

She has a good friend of hers that had a been a police officer in here Toledo for a bit. I talked to her and she would love to take my Fiancee out shooting sometime in the future. I think she might feel more comfortable learning to shoot with a female, we will see.

I think she had fun the two times we have gone shooting, and that was the result I was hoping for.
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Old 02-24-2010, 07:28 AM   #38
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Nice talkin' at ya' on the phone. Just gotta be careful nowadays.
I hear yah, I spose I'm just lucky I live in Wyoming.
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Use a .22 or 20 gauge and slowly work her into larger calibers.
- Reactive (fun) targets the 1st few times and don't be pushy.

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Old 02-28-2010, 03:37 AM   #40
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I prefer to start women with a 9mm because the recoil is light but it is there. People get tend to be real wary is recoil if you start them with a .22. My wife used to complain about guns being heavy but after shooting her light .380 bersa she has taken over my .40 xd. I have to buy her a xdm to get it back.
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