Old 03-02-2010, 02:42 AM   #1
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SC ruling today.

Well the supreme court rules today on whether state and local gov can overrule federal laws on gun possesion.If it goes the right way Chicago will be turned upside down.All I can do is hope and pray. ,,,sam.
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Old 03-02-2010, 02:59 AM   #2
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Well Sam, I hope they go the right way,and don't get PC on us! We the people need someone in that rotten city to stand by us, and be counted with we the people!!!!
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Old 03-02-2010, 03:00 AM   #3
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That's the same thing I'm doing. I hope the Supreme Court has the best interests of the American people at heart. I hope they have the courage to take a stand for freedom and justice. They can pour out a river of freedom, or put a finger in the dyke of hope. I hope the high justice's are all feeling brave and patriotic today. God help them make the right decision, a decision of the people, by the people and for the people. It's all in their hands now.
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Old 03-02-2010, 06:21 AM   #4
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They are just "hearing arguments" or whatever today. The ruling is not expected till June.

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Old 03-02-2010, 08:41 AM   #5
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Hey Sam what if they rule that states can override federal law. Chicago keeps their weapons ban, but Montana keeps their instate suppressors right? Maybe it works both ways?
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The thing that irks me is that unlike the Heller case, the Supremes are not allowing transmission of the oral arguments in McDonald vs. Chicago. They will make a transcription of the arguments agailable at some future point, perhaps today, perhaps not.

This is more than a little annoying. Why would they allow the broadcast of arguments about DC, but not of the equally if not more important Chcago case?
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It ain't over till the fat lady sings but the music is getting louder SCOTUS Signals It May Overturn City's Handgun Ban - Chicagoist
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High court looks at reach of Second Amendment - USATODAY.com
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I hope they rule before June !!
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Old 03-03-2010, 09:31 AM   #10
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I hope they rule before June !!
Don't hold your breath, Steve.

The Justices are very much aware, as they were in Heller, that they are in an area of law that will have a massive impact on the civil rights of Americans. As samuel said, the potential to turn the gun laws of places like Chicago and New York City on their heads is very much on the table with this ruling. The best precedent they have to guide them is their own, and it's only a year old. There hasn't been enough time for a history of cases decided by Heller to accumulate. They are going to approach this case with caution.

On the one hand, you have the Bad Guys (Chicago) arguing that municipalities have long enjoyed the ability to decide how far the phrase "shall not be infringed," clear as it is, applies to their jurisdictions. The precedents go back to the 1870s at least. Folks into SASS might recall that during the era of the great cattle drives, places like Dodge City and Kansas City established what were called 'deadlines,' borders around what we today would call adult entertainment districts. The purpose was to maintain order and keep violence under control.

Outside the deadline, you could carry whatever you wanted. But to cross the line and go have a good time, you had to check your shootin' iron in with the Sheriff or the Marshal, whatever the top cop was called at the time. People grumbled but they accepted it. The practice was never challenged in court at the time. The Bad Guys are arguing that this sort of custom should be allowed even though on its face it violates the Second Amendment. By extension, they believe the Constitution (read: the courts) has ceded the right to define infringement to the cities.

The Good Guys (Gura and the NRA) are arguing that the Second Amendment is the law of the land everywhere. They don't disagree that states and cities haven't the right to regulate who gets to carry a gun - they can't, what with Heller and things like the NICS check requirements - but they are saying the cities (and by extension, the states) cannot just up and say, "You can't own a gun and carry it inside and outside your home; and you can only have certain kinds of guns; and only under certain conditions."

As I've said before, on the face of it McDonald vs Chicago is a loser going in for the anti-gunners. We do have the precedent of DC vs Heller, and of Federal laws and legal precedents requiring that various Constitutional rights in the Bill of Rights be incorporated into all the states of the Union via the Fourteenth Amendment. But after the way the lawyers on both sides got bloodied up by the Justices during the oral arguments....

I just don't know which way the Supremes are going to jump this time. I really don't.
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