[AllAlaskan]

Alright for those of you who dont know, This spring (before fishing seasen) I am planning on putting on a folding stock on my 12 guage and im also wanting to put on a red dot site. How ever my funds are limited and im trying to keep it under 50 if possible. I was looking online at some BSA red dots and was wondering if any one knows how well these would handle the recoil from my 12 guage. Its a Maverick 88 with a Rifled SLug barrel for a 500 with the rear haning rail for a scope or red Dot site. I am planning on using this gun for bear protection so It will be loaded in this order Buckshot, Slug slug slug slug slug. Any ways I just want to find out if any one knows how well BSA red dots hold under the pressure

[samuel]

I don't have a great deal of experience with reddot,s but know for a fact the cheap ones are very easy to cant the gun and never even come close to the intended target.That is all I can say about them.They might be great if you get used to them. ,,,sam.

[AllAlaskan]

hmm ok, thanks for the info. I want something to where If i need to pull the gun up quick and fire that i can see my target quickly and get aim as fast as possible. The gun has a rifled Barrel on it that has a rear mount off of the barrel for the sight so it has no iron sights or else I would just use those and i cant afford to buy another barrel atm.

EDIT: This is kind of what Im looking at....
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=194879



its not a bsa but something like this, i would prefure a holographic.

[samuel]

That particular setup I only have experience with on handguns.I recall it wasn't bad but we were under 25yds.Fast enough. ,,,sam.

[Mojo]

couple questions/thoughts
- cheap red dots = questionable quality for abuse & working when you really need it

- battery red dot - do you plan on keeping it on 100% the time for the fact you never know when you could come across a bear. then you have the issue will the battery be dead when you really need it to be working.

- assuming you'll be shooting (if needed) at 40 yards or less, whats wrong with iron sights ? they dont fail. if you bring up the question about low light conditions then get night sights for the shotgun = no fail & sights work 100% the time w/o no need for batteries.

- or get a trijicon red dot sight, no batteries/night sights

- whats your life worth ? are you willing to spend more than $50 or thats it ?

being able to see your sights at a moments notice to shoot, w/o fumbling to turn on the battery powered red dot while a bear is charging you - whats your life worth ?

forget the buckshot, slug all the way & have bear mace.

[AllAlaskan]

Well the slug barrel i had doesnt have iron sights, but I just talked to a friend of mine who works at a gun shop and he said he can take my 28 inch smoth bore and cut it down to a to a 18.5 inch barrel and mount Ghost sights on it. He said the ghost sights are a lil better for quick draws like what would happen during a bear confrintation. I was looking at keeping the slug barrel on but he pointed out that most times its less than 50 yards and that a smoth bore would work just fine. Also he said he could get me a set of Ghost sights for cheeper then a red dot. The slug barrel i was ganna use had no iron sights on it and had a rail on the back to mount a scope or what ever. So tomarrow im going to take my gun into where he works at and he is ganna show me a lil more in detail. So it looks like im dumping the Red dot idea.

and as far as my life being worth more than $50, My life is more than that but its hard to spend the money if you dont have it. Sure I would rather just go buy a brand new or like new 590 with aa 20 inch barrel and iron sights. If i had the money thats what I would do...but i dont lol.

[Mojo]

I know your life is worth more than $50 & I understand you cant spend money you dont have, but for what you're talking about the use/need IMO a battery powered red dot is not the ideal thing to use, again IMO.
you're better off spending a little bit more on something else & if needed save up or sell something to get a sight setup that'll be ready to go anytime you raise it to shoot.

[AllAlaskan]

ya thats why im looking at cutting down my smoth barrel and just having the Ghost sights put on, No battery to worry about or turning it on. I just moved so I dont really have any thing Im willing to sell, Most of my guns have been passed down and the others i need so I wont sell or trade, but i think if i go with the ghost sights I can afford it and like you said no turning it on or any thing. THey are just like iron sights except the back one is sorta like a small circle you look through. My friend says he has some on one of his shot guns that he uses for bear defence so Tomarrow when I go in im going to Take a look at his set up. He also mentioned I might not wnat to use a folding stock so as not to need to fold it out before I shoot.

[AllAlaskan]

Well I went in and took a look at his gun, and i must say i really liked it. His is a mossy 835 but the setup is very similer to what i think would be best. He has a 20 inch barrel with a set of Williams Fire sights....

On it. He said He could cut the barrel down to 18.25 inches as to keep it above 18 inches for legal reasens and put these same sights on it for 35 bucks. All I would need to do next is get a diffrent stock. the one I have will work but im thinking about getting a telescoping stock or a Folder, not sure yet.

[GlockMeister]

I can sell you one of these for $30 bucks + shipping.



If you prefer or want a larger one I also have a 50mm I'll sell for the same price + shipping. The 30mm, pictured above has been mounted but in new like condition where as the 50mm has never been mounted...



If you like the firesight option, take a look at what XS sight systems has to offer for shotguns?

http://www.xssights.com/store/shotgun.html

[AllAlaskan]

ya i was looking at those, only thing is both sights are going on the barrel one at the front one at the back plus mine has a rib running down the top. So that could get in the way. Im trying to keep it to where if i want i can put my rifled slug barrel back on with its scope for shotgun and bow only seasen.

[GlockMeister]

Well the red dot I have pictured mounts to a weaver rail and you should be able to mount one of those on the top of the receiver?

Let me know if you want it or not. Have original box for the 30mm as well as paperwork and like I said, the 50mm is NIB.

[AllAlaskan]

Ok let me think about it, I wont have the money for another week and a half any way. Im on a budget and the money i was going to use i had to spend on bills today. But this is something I want to get done asap.

[GlockMeister]

They're not going anywhere. There just in their boxes. I'm not advertising them yet or anything. So yea, think about it and let me know...

The shipping will be about $6-$8 bucks. The last thing I sent to someone in Alaska was somewhat light, and it cost $6.25, $5.55 for the actual shipping and $.70 cents for delivery confirmation. So since this is heavier then what that was, just figure no more then $8. 00. Anything over and I'll cover it.

[SwedeSteve]

So, did you finally make up your mind AA, lol ??

[thrillbilly]

I have the exact same red-dot as Glock is touting. I have had it for at least 8-9 years and have had it on .22s a 30/30 and a .50ML as well as my 12G. i haven't managed to break it yet, and it is easy on batteries (unless you leave it on and leave it in the safe for a few months LOl been there done that). It isn't the most accurate system at longer range because the dot looks huge at 100 yards, but it is FAST and accurate at 50 yards and less. my brother has one on his SKS, and it has had several thousand rounds put through it with no problems.


This is no bull...I could hit a clay target in the air when I had my red-dot on my Semi Auto .22. NOT from a launcher but just throwing it from a hand. You have to hit it a couple of times with a .22 to break the clay, unless you get the right angle. I would track the clay with the red-dot and pop all 10 rounds at it rapid-fire (or as many as it took to bust it). The above isn't to boast, just to prove how fast the red-dot is on a target. LOL I am sure I fired 20 rounds for every 4-5 clays broken...and a hand-tossed clay at 30 feet isn't that hard of a target.

[thrillbilly]

I have a weaver rail on the top of my Mossberg's receiver...the red-dot clamps right on it. It is a one-piece rail...your receiver should have the 4 holes in it. I think the rail was around 15-20$

[ArkansasHunter]

I got a question ??? The Maverick 88 I owned reciever was not drilled and tapped.
Is yours where you can do what you want to do ???

Take a look at Sportsman Guide website, they may have just what your looking for at a low price and I would go to Wal Marts website and look at there optic's.
It's been a while since I looked at Wal Marts Optic's but the many times I did go look they had more scopes and red dot's than a dog has flea's.
They can order them and shipping is free to the store near you.

Also go to Bud's Gun Shop an online gun and accessorie seller and go to www.swfa.com to see if they have what your looking for and maybe they may have a special going on.

Lastly call Mooseman and have him look at Sports South for a model your interested in. This is a gun dealers supplier and would need to go through a gun dealers store.

Good Luck...A.H

[thrillbilly]

My Mav 88 isn't tapped either AH...it has a slug barrel with iron rifle sites though. I don't know about newer Mavs...mine is early-mid 90s model.




I read the later post (finally...a little late) and agree I'd rather have the ghost ring set-up then a red-dot, I aint sure how the red-dot would work in Alaska weather anyways...it only gets down to the low teens here.

[k-80]

i have a bsa that i used once on my mosin and would be interested in selling it.send me a pm about it.