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Old 03-17-2010, 09:12 PM   #1
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just got one

hello to all

i just bought a 91/30 from gander mtn for 99$ all numbers are matching for what i can tell. the gun came with a bayo,oil can,cleaning brush and rod, ammo pouch.
bore look good

its has a light oil or something on it i dont think its cosmo it looks more like vaseoline.

and there was a paper in the box with cleaning and care insturctions from I.O. Inc. monroe NC

ill get pic's asap

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Old 03-17-2010, 09:15 PM   #2
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good deal, sounds like a winner! Also post a range report!
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:16 PM   #3
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opps for got to ask whats the best way to get the oil stuff off.


338 will do
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:22 PM   #4
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I take apart the rifle and put all wood parts aside then use mineral spirits to take the cosmo off the rifle, then boil the bolt in a pot of water. after using mineral spirits then use regular cleaning methods.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:36 PM   #5
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+1 above. There also is a great amount of info in the sticky at the top of the forum
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:47 PM   #6
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thanks guys
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:25 PM   #7
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That Vaseline like stuff is just some sort of thin grease. Ive gotten a few with it and ive seen many that are covered in the stuff. Hope its a good shooter.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:40 PM   #8
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+3 on using mineral spirits. Just make sure if you get any on or use it one you stock to wash it off with soap and water or better yet use some Murphy's wood soap mixed with water to clean it when you're done.

Congrats on your find...
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:54 PM   #9
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sounds good caan't wait to see some pics. Do you know what year and make?
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Old 03-18-2010, 06:23 AM   #10
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at a quick glance
on top of the reciver theres a star and it has a 43 stamped under the star and mod 39,, and on the mag theres something stamped but it too small to see it clearly.

also on the box it says russian sniper rifle 91/30 but it has no scope or a placed tapped to mount one.

going to start cleaning it this week end because of working the next 2 days will get befor and after pix. and hopeful be able to see all the little markings better so i can start the seach of the life of the rifle . ( i hope that you guys are as helpful with this rifle as the guys were when i got my mauser)
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:30 PM   #11
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the star would mean it's made at the tula factory was there a 19 in front of the 43 for the date? don't know why the mag would say mod 39? we're gonna need some good closeup pics.
if it's an ex pu sniper, it'll have plugs inside the receiver. you can't see them from the outside cause they welded them and ground them flush. if it's an ex pu you have to look extra hard for the welded plugs farther forward on top of the reciever. ex snipers also will have serial numbers on the left side of the receiver lined out.
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:48 PM   #12
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sorry guys the 39 is on the reciver not the mag

here are some pics

i boiled the bolt and most all metal parts for a few sec to get the cosmo off
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:50 PM   #13
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:49 PM   #14
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From the looks of it, you have a Tula 1943 receiver with an Izhevsk magazine. At some point the rifle was remanufactured because it has the later serial number including Cyrillic letters instead of the earlier numbers-only.

Regarding the cleaning: by all means use mineral spirits on the barreled receiver. But for the magazine, the floor plate and follower assembly and the bolt, a simpler method is to put them in a disposable aluminum foil pan, bolt head down and magazine upside down, and heat them in the oven at 200 degrees F. for an hour. That will melt all the cosmoline off the parts. Let them cool to room temperature and give them a washing with mineral spirits and you ought to be good to go. I find this saves time when I'm readying a newly-acquired milsurp that's been stored in cosmoline or heavy oil.
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:57 PM   #15
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My buddy had got an m44 with the vasiline like stuff on it. No cosmo could be found. We just wiped it down with rags, cleaned the barrel with brake clean followed with some gun oil and it was good to go.
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:17 PM   #16
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the star would mean it's made at the tula factory was there a 19 in front of the 43 for the date? don't know why the mag would say mod 39? we're gonna need some good closeup pics.
if it's an ex pu sniper, it'll have plugs inside the receiver. you can't see them from the outside cause they welded them and ground them flush. if it's an ex pu you have to look extra hard for the welded plugs farther forward on top of the reciever. ex snipers also will have serial numbers on the left side of the receiver lined out.
Tula did not typically stamp serial numbers on the left side of the barrel shank. Tula utilized 2 digit stamps, the "CH", or "CП" stamped somewhere around the Tula star on the top of the barrel shank to designate their snipers. Izhevsk stamped the serial number of the scope on the left side of the barrel shank. Izhevsk ex-snipers will usually have this number lined out. There are very rare, or else forged examples of Tula stamping the serial of the scope on the barrel shank in the same manner as Izhevsk did. Early examples of prototype snipers may or may not even have the marks.



As far as cleaning off any grease or cosmo, mineral spirits will do the job for all parts, metal and the stock. If it's on the stock, slosh some on a rag and wipe down, then wipe dry. Toothbrush can come in handy too. Wipe off any really thick stuff first with an old rag or the paper paper towels then use the mineral spirits. If you don't want to boil your bolt, you can drop the pieces in an old Gatorade jug, or the like with a lid and shake the parts around. The bolt body won't fit, gonna have to get in there with an old cleaning brush or something. But you can also use mineral spirits for that too.
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thanks for correcting me, colonel. you are correct according to the tula and izzy ex-snipers in the cabinet.
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thanks for correcting me, colonel. you are correct according to the tula and izzy ex-snipers in the cabinet.
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:23 AM   #19
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thanks guys

i did tear the bolt down an boil it for about 45sec to a min along with all other metal minus the magazine wiped it off with some WD-40. let all air dry at room temp for about 2 hours reassebled the bolt hit with a good coat of rem oil. and going to rty and clean up the stock a bit this weekend and hopfuly get it to the range, mon or wed

dumb question beacuse im still learning about milsup. is this a 91/30 m39 or what?
just wondering beacuse of the markings under the tula star looks like a 34 or 39

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Old 03-19-2010, 10:53 AM   #20
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dumb question beacuse im still learning about milsup. is this a 91/30 m39 or what?
just wondering beacuse of the markings under the tula star looks like a 34 or 39

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what looks to you like "39" is actually cyrillic letters for "ZD" and is the beginning of the original serial number... photo looks like "ZD 44..." the floor plate of the magazine has "ZY" and then some numbers
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