[GlockMeister]

My vote was for the 500 S&W. You also left one choice/option off the list, the .460...

[big shrek]

Quote:       Originally Posted by skiking

http://gf.state.wy.us/downloads/pdf/...ar%20spray.pdf http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/...ar%20spray.pdf The comprehensive report only addresses bear spray while the other, while less specific addresses both, but neither in great details. Also Bear Attacks: Their Causes and Avoidance by Stephen Herrero, in the book he has some good numbers for bear spray. I edited the firearm effectiveness to 50-67% when I found this article and it mentions a 67% effectiveness for firearms. BYU study shows bear pepper spray a viable alternative to guns for deterring bears Hope this helps.

Timothy Treadwell, the Grizzly Man...was found in various piles of cajun-smelling Grizzly-Bear poop

I'll have the anti-gun friend use the bear spray...
if it works, great!! If not, I'll blast the bear

[Ten Man]

I thought we beat this to death on another thread a couple weeks ago.

Oh, well.

Again, I voted for the .44 Magnum.

Why? Because it is more controllable than the S&W 500 in a 4" barrel.

It is easier and cheaper to get ammo for than the .460, .480, or .454 Casull.

It has a history of demonstrated effectiveness.

And it is more powerful than all the other choices.

I carry a S&W Model 329 with 4" barrel, and 6 rounds of jacketed soft point ammo in it. I figure it gives me a fighting chance with a bear, and a definite upper hand on 2 legged critters in the woods.

[skiking]

Quote:       Originally Posted by big shrek

Timothy Treadwell, the Grizzly Man...was found in various piles of cajun-smelling Grizzly-Bear poop

Big difference between defending yourself against a possible bear attack and trying to pet one. And if I recall the poop smelled like A-1 sauce, not anything cajun.

[grizcty]

Quote:
Originally Posted by big shrek
Timothy Treadwell, the Grizzly Man...was found in various piles of cajun-smelling Grizzly-Bear poop

Big difference between defending yourself against a possible bear attack and trying to pet one. And if I recall the poop smelled like A-1 sauce, not anything cajun.

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Just to be clear, on this subject.

Treadwell, was a certified jack azz!
The only actual victim, was his girlfriend.
And, the 2 bears killed, because of HIS stupidity!

This dumb AZZ, deserved what he got.
He didn't have a gun, or pepper spray, in his camp!
Nor, did him playing dead, during the attack .
And NOT fighting, the bear back, help.!
He not only committed suicide.
He commited murder, by bringing along his girlfriend!

Anyone who runs around naked, with bears.
Is gonna get screwed one way, or the other!

BTW, I did not spend $ to see the movie, or read the book.
Nor, would I.

I saw the remains.
Before & after being bagged!
His remains, would fit in a kitchen trash bag.

Good night.

[SwedeSteve]

^ Ha-Ha !! They should have prosecuted his remains for murder. He was an idiot !! As far as caliber, take the largest caliber you can control comfortably for a second shot !! Think about the shot provided on a charging bear.

[samuel]

First,I have never been attacked by dangerous game,except by a squirrel and a muskrat.(and maybe something else in that catagory)But none the less,I always prepared for an attack. For years I carried either a .45Colt or a .44mag as defense/backup.I decided sometime in the 70,s that a .454cas might be a good idea.Because of the substantial recoil I practiced with one in two hand,one hand, and either hand,and all standing on my hind legs shooting for about two years before I finally traded in my .44mag for a .454cas.I felt that I could handle it just as fast and efficient as I could the .45 or .44mag.If my capabilities/efficiency limited me to a .38spl/.357mag to be certain I could deliver damaging wounds,you can bet your sweet bippy that is exactly what I would be carrying.To me the most important part of defense,whether human or animal,is the ability of the defender to be able to deliver the shots to whatever is threatening me.Buying a .460/.500 for defense when your abilities limit you to a lesser recoil weapon makes no sense to me.My opinion. ,,,sam.

[Dryfli]

when I bought my .454 I considered other guns but one of the main reasons I picked the .454 is that it holds 6 rounds as opposed to 5 rnds for the .460 or .500 also Mr. Casull is a good guy and I like rugers, the last 2 reasons dont really have any thing to do with bear defense but I thought I'd add them any way