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Old 05-07-2010, 04:06 PM   #21
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I don't know yet but i hope by next election time i'll see one.
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Old 05-07-2010, 04:25 PM   #22
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If anything were to happen to Obama, then we would have civil unrest, the likes of which nobody has ever seen.
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:54 PM   #23
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Anyone remember the following words.

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:06 PM   #24
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If anything were to happen to Obama, then we would have civil unrest, the likes of which nobody has ever seen.
Sooo, if anything would have happened to George W do you think the same? I kinda doubt it, we kinda know who the barbarian nutsacks are dont we? Great post D winter.
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:56 PM   #25
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But who is a good replacement for the President ?

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I am not sure but i can say that Daffy Duck would be an improvement on what we have now
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:30 AM   #26
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I never thought this would ever happen. But I do fear the end is very near. especially when you have to press # 2 for english. I agree the market is going to crash, I already lost my money in there and wanted to take what little I had left and my advisor kept saying it will come back. yeah right to late now! We need to start taxing China and Mexico and imports for one thing. Russia and China will go together to bring this Country down, then you have North Korea who is stocking up and have been for years. North Korea will bring us down with Russia and China...
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:37 AM   #27
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I ascribe to the "Three Percent Rule" - that's about how many of us will be willing to fight to remain free. The rest just want to go along with the flow, collect their welfare checks, drink a cold Budweiser while watching football or Oprah......
I'm more than willing to fight, in order to remain free...and I'm gonna fight a little bit harder, if they get in the way of my freedom to drink a cold Budweiser or laugh at Oprah!
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:39 AM   #28
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Then it would be too late.

If Obama isn't voted out in 2012, I think people will be a little more than willing to raise the level of dislike for the government....
If I am doing the math right in my head, that will be my first election to vote in.

I'll be curious to see if there will be even more thugs at the polling places?


I'm also curious to know if any elections will be/get stolen?


And I believe if the illegals are given amnesty before 2012, and they vote to keep the Dems. (who will have been the ones to give them amnesty to get their votes) in office, I think that will or could be another ignition to a civil unrest fuse.

Right now, there are many things that could ignite the fuse. The economy, jobs, or lack there of, our national debt and or government over-spending, taxes being raised, peoples retirement accounts continuing to tank, the healthcare reform law creating excessive wait times to see a doctor or have tests done, people dying because they had to wait to see a doctor or get tests done because of healthcare reform, and many more.

I think even a VAT (value added tax) would or could be enough to ignite a fuse.

The thing that concerns me about the stock market and the fact many people have their retirement plans in them is someone purposely doing something that would cause them to tank just for the purpose of them having to then turn to the Government for help. thus forcing them to turn to some newly created entitlement program?

I mean think about it. If someone wants to force a lot of people to have to rely on their government, causing their retirement accounts to tank would be one way to do that...

Sorry, I just don't trust my government anymore and I put nothing past anyone. Especially when it comes to ones thirst and or hunger for power. One with an over-sized ego. A group of rich bastads thinking they know what's good for those who aren't.
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Old 05-09-2010, 01:53 AM   #29
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Kris Kristofferson wrote it and Janis Joplin sang it: "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose...."

As long as the majority of people in this country still have food, beer/soda, and TV to watch, there will NOT be any uprising. Sheeple just bleet.

You want to see civil unrest? Cut off the welfare checks! LOL
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Old 05-09-2010, 11:50 AM   #30
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Pull up the movie, Machette. There was a college professor this week calling for the immigrants to wage war with Americans. The govt is letting this fester, so they can step in.
They will definitely 'step in it' This is a commie coup!
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:19 PM   #31
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IMHO, civil unrest will start in 2013 When the debt-to-income ratio of the USA will become so bad that Foreign Govt.s will no longer loan to the USA by buying T-bills. The states that are 'broke' now will ask the Feds for bailout money to meet the state's welfare payments. The Feds won't have that money to bailout the states. THEN the welfare masses will riot and spread out across the country trying to 'take' what is 'theirs' by force. Other groups like the illegals will join in the rioting with their own agenda. Anarchy will start in pockets of LA, NY City, Phoenix, Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta, etc. and spread. Martial law will be declared. The thoroughly fed up middle classes will band together in militias and will fight both the rioters and the Feds. The USA economy will evaporate and we will stagnate for several years. Part of the Southwest will be taken by Mexico. Russia will take over our interests in Europe, China will take over in the Far East. The Muslim people of the middle east will fall into general warfare among themselves. When it is all shook out over five to ten years, China will be the most powerful nation in this world.

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Old 05-09-2010, 12:35 PM   #32
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It'll happen when people can't make ends meet. The health care legislation, the VAT and Cap & Trade will accelerate things considerably. This country has gone from a single-income family being able to make it to a point where a two and sometime three income family is barely able to pay the bills in 1/2 of a century.
Cut off Welfare and it will happen immediately, but from an entirely different group of people.
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:39 PM   #33
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I really don't forsee any real improvement in the near future if the new regeime is Republican or Democrat,both seem to owe their souls to the enemy.
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Old 05-09-2010, 01:26 PM   #34
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Marxist vs freedom loving Americans. Socialist vs capitalist economic theories. Social justice vs the Constitution. The Government vs WE THE PEOPLE. An education system bent on indoctinating generations of Americans AGAINST their own country. Civil War? Its been going on for decades. The only thing missing is the gunfire.
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Old 05-09-2010, 02:01 PM   #35
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^+1 I agree here
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Old 05-09-2010, 02:04 PM   #36
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$5/gallon gas and 20% unemployment would probably get things going a little.
Unemployment is already that high or higher.
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Old 05-09-2010, 04:26 PM   #37
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Anyone remember the following words.

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
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Old 05-09-2010, 05:05 PM   #38
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I pretty much agree with Big Cholla - it won't be started by US, the law-abiding tax-payers. It will start when The System fails completely, and the great unwashed masses of "Have-nots" start preying on and invading the homes of the "Haves" - US! We will fight back, some will die, some will kill........
Eventually an uneasy 'peace' will ensue as those remaining are trying to scrape a living from the ruins. Keep your ammo stocked and your magazines loaded.
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Old 05-09-2010, 05:27 PM   #39
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meh, and all this has to happen during our life time...



Exciting and interesting times we live in huh.
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Pull up the movie, Machette. There was a college professor this week calling for the immigrants to wage war with Americans. The govt is letting this fester, so they can step in.
They will definitely 'step in it' This is a commie coup!
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