[Paper]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Dobber12

If you had the chance to buy a Remington 710 .270 with the bushnell 3X9 scope for $250 would you, or would you shop around for something different?

I'd snag it!! That's what I paid for both my .243 and my 7mm Mag rifles.. I figured I'd swap out for better scopes, but both have held up perfectly..

Tell me where you can find a rifle that shoots MOA for $250 and is ready to take to the field as is?? And it's even American Made!!

[SNAV]

In a nutshell, people here that complain/compare 710 to 700 and others are ignoring the gist of the design.

Essentially the 710 is like your typical commuter beater which you drive instead of your cruiser every day.

It's not pretty, perfect or meritorious. However; it is inexpensive, does the job reliably, and you don't mind if it takes a few dings. From that perspective it's a good choice. Cheers

[Rakob]

I just bought the 710 in a 30-06 about 2 days ago and finally got the chance to go out and shoot it this morning. The day that I got it I was a little worried because the action was a little bit rough but I'm telling you that if you will oil it before you do anything else it will make the action 1000 times smoother.

I also took my .270 which is a model 700 and was just playing around with it.

There is in no way shape or form that a 710 is as good of an action as the 700 but from what I can see is that it is very dependable. I really like the feel of the gun because the stock is a little big thicker than the 700 and I have big hands. The only complaint that I have with the gun is that the detachable magazine could be more secure. If you put your hand on the clip when you are trying to work the bolt then it makes it rough.

My friend bought a stevens 200 about a month ago and the 710 is just as nice his gun is and I got the 710 for about $75 cheaper. I could not be happier with this gun. Is it as nice as the 700, no, but for the money it is a great buy.

[charles73]

My dad gave me a Rem 788 in .243 years ago. Now my soon to be 12 yr old son has inherited it to hunt with this year. It has always done well. Now that I am shooting Hornady's 95 grn sst factory loads it is shooting 1/4-1/2 in groups of 5 shots.
If that is Remington's cheap gun...come on! lol

[Speederfrk]

Just thought I would throw my oppinion in with the rest of you..... I bought my 30-06 710 just after they hit the market, I have since taken more deer than I can count and have never missed or failed to drop them in there tracks with a single shot. Since purchasing the 710 I have customized the stock to my liking. I shoot Federal 150gr PSP through mine and continuosly cut wholes at the range at 200yds. I am also among a minority because I prefere a stiffer trigger pull than most people and the 710 happens to fall in the sweet spot for me. I own several rifles from ww2 jap rifles to modern day savage and remingtons. I can with out a dought say that my 710 can shoot with any rifle I have ever had the pleasure of shooting.

For those that may own a 710 and dont get the grouping that others brag about with there 710. If they are anything like my rifle I found that the stock touching partway down the barrell. This was the reason for my customizing the stock. My stock now has a 3/16" gap the full length of the barrell. This took my groups from 3/4" at 200yds to cutting holes. I have also removed the bushnel scope in favor of a BSA 4-16 x 40 mil-dot scope. Like any avid shooter no matter what you are shooting changes may be needed to get the desired result whether it be triger pull, floating a barrell or bedding down to the round that the particular rifle likes to shoot. We as shooters do what it takes to hit the X down range or make a clean kill on our prey.

[paul911]

I bought the 710 (270) for my 15 year old son, its a nice first gun, and for someone that may not take as good of care as he should the non-wood stock is a good alternitive. You have to consider what they cost before saying there no good. Its killed deer, and when he can buy his own gun and wants to spend $1000.00 or more he is more that welcome to spend his own money. I pick this 710 up for $225.00 so its not like I'll go broke on this purchase. There are better made guns out there for sure and my Rem 30-06 that was handed down from my grandfather is one of this but my 15 year old is not going to drag my gun through the woods

[paul911]

"Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid."
The Late Great John Wayne

[Tack Driver]

Quote:       Originally Posted by cold bore shot

Let me add, that the light wieght of this rifle does contribute to a horrendous recoil kick to the shoulder and collar bone, but hell thats half the rush.

I wouldn't exactly call the .30-06 a horrendous kicker, even in a light rifle...I don't know how 'light' the 710's are, but I handled a 770 at Dick's Sporting Goods, and it weighed close to 8 1/2 lbs, not exactly a light rifle.

[Paper]

I don't even find my 710 in 7mm Mag offensive as far as recoil, let alone the one I have in 30-06. That's a pretty healthy recoil pad on the end of that rifle..

The one I have in .243 could be shot all day long, if I could ever get it back from my nephew.

[Tack Driver]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Paper

I don't even find my 710 in 7mm Mag offensive as far as recoil, let alone the one I have in 30-06. That's a pretty healthy recoil pad on the end of that rifle.. The one I have in .243 could be shot all day long, if I could ever get it back from my nephew.

One good feature is the generous recoil pad, I can easily see the target in the scope even after the shot with my 7mm-08, never comes off target; very pleasant to shoot.

[lunchbox99]

I like them for the money 300 bucks brand new with a bushnell 3-9 power scope its good enogh.

[bjmac22]

I have read a lot of the reviews on the 710... I disagree with most. Let me start out by saying that I own, or have owned the following: 700 .308, 700 .30-06, 710 .270, mark V .300 wtby, colt sauer .25-06, Golden Eagle - 7000 7mm mag, among many others... The finest guns were the Sauer and the Mark V. The most accurate rifles were the Golden Eagle and the 710!! All of the rifles above shot under 1 moa except for the 700 .308. I bought the 710 because it was on sale for $280 nib. I have since sold both of my 700's and use the 710 for the "dirty work."
It is true that the stock is an odd color, the bolt feel on closing is very odd and slightly tight, and its finish is functional, not pretty. But this rifle shoots out of the box. I will say that when buying one, check the rear of the bolt for movement while locked... I have seen a few that were loose and of course had accuracy issues. It is not a pretty gun to say the least but she functions better than my $1k and up rifles. With all that said, I dare you to find a rifle for under $300 that will shoot sub .5 moa with factory ammo.
For those of you that haven't had the pleasure of shooting a Golden Eagle, I highly recommend it! Slightly cheap feeling stock but the looks and accuracy make up for it.

[davidrgoodman]

Quote:       Originally Posted by dave375hh

I haven't heard anything good about them. Most of the reports I've read from real shooters, as opposed to paid-off gunwriters who never say anything's bad, they don't shoot worth a !!!!. You can buy a Savage 111GXP for less money and get a better rifle at the same time. The Savage comes with scope sling mts etc. The 710 is Remingtons Edsel....POS!

I dont know what the big deal with people saying that the 710 is a POS. I have one and have never had a problem with it it shoots as true as the day is long. Speaking of how it shoots i have even shot 500 yards with it and never had a problem. If someone can prove to me that the 710 is junk then i would seriously think about getting rid of it. I do however know that the 700 has got trigger problems and that is why Im on here right now trying to figure out if the 710 has the same problems please advise any info would be good.
thanks USMC

[davidrgoodman]

Quote:       Originally Posted by bjmac22

I have read a lot of the reviews on the 710... I disagree with most. Let me start out by saying that I own, or have owned the following: 700 .308, 700 .30-06, 710 .270, mark V .300 wtby, colt sauer .25-06, Golden Eagle - 7000 7mm mag, among many others... The finest guns were the Sauer and the Mark V. The most accurate rifles were the Golden Eagle and the 710!! All of the rifles above shot under 1 moa except for the 700 .308. I bought the 710 because it was on sale for $280 nib. I have since sold both of my 700's and use the 710 for the "dirty work." It is true that the stock is an odd color, the bolt feel on closing is very odd and slightly tight, and its finish is functional, not pretty. But this rifle shoots out of the box. I will say that when buying one, check the rear of the bolt for movement while locked... I have seen a few that were loose and of course had accuracy issues. It is not a pretty gun to say the least but she functions better than my $1k and up rifles. With all that said, I dare you to find a rifle for under $300 that will shoot sub .5 moa with factory ammo. For those of you that haven't had the pleasure of shooting a Golden Eagle, I highly recommend it! Slightly cheap feeling stock but the looks and accuracy make up for it.

AMEN I love my 710 ive had it for about 5 years now and I havent had the first problem out of it i just put one of the cedar point rifle scopes on it and she shoots like a champ.

[BattleRifleG3]

The 710 is a beater in two senses:
1. It's cheap and intended to be nothing fancy at all.
2. It's able to be beaten and show practically no wear.

Has anyone ever seen it fail to do what it's supposed to do?

[Daniel_Boone]

Here is my opinion,
Gun companies are owned by investors and is run by engineers and bean counters.

As long as times are good - no one complains.
When times are tough, the bean counters takes over and then the quality of the gun suffers. It is not that a 710 will not kill a deer, it is that it is a cheap gun and basically junk.
What is wrong with it? Well they cheapened it and made it more affordable so that the average Joe Plumber that only goes hunting a couple of days a year will be willing to buy it - because he wants a new - cheap - gun over a nice old gun. That way he can appease his wife by taking her out to eat and then go back and live in his McMansion and worry about the bills and income.

No self respecting gun writer would ever tell you that something - almost as good as the model 700 - is just as good as the model 700.
As far as I am concerned - the model 710 is the half black, half white basstard child of the parent rifle the model 700 and that somewhere down the road - it is going to give them a bad name.

A long time ago, Remington did away with adjustable triggers for the sole purpose that they knew that some gun nut - that didn't know his arse from a hole in the ground was going to tell a bunch of people that by changing the pull on their trigger that they could make their rifle better.
Many people took their advice and fine tuned their trigger and now the cows are coming home for a good milking.

Half the people who has a problem with their gun accidentally discharging - done it to themselves when they tried to adjust their own triggers.
American's are tinkerers - they like to do things themselves and save a little money in the process. They get some sort of perverted pleasure in taking a perfectly good gun and turning it into something that even the dog won't play with unless you tie a wiener around it.
How many times has a plumber been called in the middle of the night after a homeowner tried to do their own plumbing repairs - only to find out that they skipped one basic step and now the pipes are leaking worse then before.

Or your wife stranded along the side of the road because he husband did a repair to her car and done it wrong and it only made it a couple of miles before it died and needed towed home.

I see it all the time.

The Model 710 is a cheap gun for cheap people.
It will never take the place of a vintage Model 700 or a Model 70 Winchester. It will not shoot better then a older gun that was taken care of - nor will it shoot further then a good gun. Even a blind hog finds an acorn once in a while. Maybe someone was shooting at a target and by mistake accidentally hit the bulls-eye several hundred yards away.
That does not mean that this is a new bean field rifle or that expert marksmen is going to get rid of their expensive rifles and switch to the cheapest rifle in the Remington line.

As a matter of fact - Remington has already admitted that they made a mistake and has rectified the situation by coming out with the model 770 Rifle. For the most part - most people do not want a good cheap rifle, they want a good rifle that will last them the rest of their life.

No one is ever going to start a collectors club for model 710 rifles.
They were just a mistake which Remington made to keep their company alive when times were tough and competitors came along with guns cheaper then their guns and they were worried that the competitions guns were going to take a market share away from them and that they could not afford to loose any customers - so they invented this piece of junk to keep them going until they could design something better.

[toolman]

I'm not defending the 710 (I personally am not a fan of Remington in general), but there have been major strides in manufacturing and materials that are leading to some very solid guns being produced at prices that rival Chinese imports. Take the Marlin "X" series or the Stevens 200 for example. 10-15 years ago, you'd be hard pressed to make a factory gun shoot like these do without major 'smith work.
I'm very happy with my Win. Mod. 70, but if I had to go buy a new rifle for deer season, I wouldn't feel under-gunned at all with one of the new budget guns.

[toolman]

I'm not defending the 710 (I personally am not a fan of Remington in general), but there have been major strides in manufacturing and materials that are leading to some very solid guns being produced at prices that rival Chinese imports. Take the Marlin "X" series or the Stevens 200 for example. 10-15 years ago, you'd be hard pressed to make a factory gun shoot like these do without major 'smith work.
I'm very happy with my Win. Mod. 70, but if I had to go buy a new rifle for deer season, I wouldn't feel under-gunned at all with one of the new budget guns.

[Paper]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Daniel_Boone

Here is my opinion, It is not that a 710 will not kill a deer, it is that it is a cheap gun and basically junk. The Model 710 is a cheap gun for cheap people. No one is ever going to start a collectors club for model 710 rifles.

So how do you really feel??

I have four 710 rifles (is that a collection?).. They shoot as well as my 700's, 70's, 110's, XL7's, and since they're "cheap" and "junk" I typically choose them to hunt with since I don't have to worry about scratching one and ruining my prettier rifles and they perform just as well as the expensive weapons.

I go shooting at LEAST once a week. I have numerous CMP medals and I have a pretty extensive collection of rifles.. I also have 710's in 30-06, 7mm Mag, .270, and .243.. (well, kinda have one in .243, if I can ever pry it out of my nephew's hands)

My 710's ALWAYS shoot bullseyes, unless I do something to screw a shot up. They've killed numerous deer, including my nephew's first deer with "my" .243, and they've ALWAYS gone bang when I pulled the trigger on a live round. They're accurate (Same barrels as the 770) and they work..

Most importantly, they've NEVER failed me, through hundreds of rounds of ammo.. You need to learn the differences between inexpensive, cheap, and "junk".. If I have something that's "junk", I don't have it very long and I sure as hell don't buy more of them.

Or at least you could learn how to be tactful..

[davidrgoodman]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Paper

So how do you really feel?? I have four 710 rifles (is that a collection?).. They shoot as well as my 700's, 70's, 110's, XL7's, and since they're "cheap" and "junk" I typically choose them to hunt with since I don't have to worry about scratching one and ruining my prettier rifles and they perform just as well as the expensive weapons. I go shooting at LEAST once a week. I have numerous CMP medals and I have a pretty extensive collection of rifles.. I also have 710's in 30-06, 7mm Mag, .270, and .243.. (well, kinda have one in .243, if I can ever pry it out of my nephew's hands) My 710's ALWAYS shoot bullseyes, unless I do something to screw a shot up. They've killed numerous deer, including my nephew's first deer with "my" .243, and they've ALWAYS gone bang when I pulled the trigger on a live round. They're accurate (Same barrels as the 770) and they work.. Most importantly, they've NEVER failed me, through hundreds of rounds of ammo.. You need to learn the differences between inexpensive, cheap, and "junk".. If I have something that's "junk", I don't have it very long and I sure as hell don't buy more of them. Or at least you could learn how to be tactful..

AGREE maybe someone needs to think about how they are shooting when you want to put a round down range make sure you squeeeeeeze the trigger it will get you alot further and alot better shot groups. im convinced that someone doesnt know what they are talking about. i do not own a 700 because if i did i would stay worried that i might get a scratch on it. i have been shooting for along time and i would have to say that if you think that it is a mishap that i have shot 500 yards with a model 710 then i challenge you to do the same. oh and i also have killed many deer with my 710 which is a 270 and still to this day kill deer with it. come november 8 i am wishing to kill my first bear with it. that is how confident i am on my rifle.
USMC