*New* Remington Model 700 VTR

[DDJ1]

Originally Posted by Bravo

Let us know how she shoots Dave

Shot this gun twice now. I've got about 90 rounds through it now and still doing load development. Shooting mostly Midway Dogtowns but I loaded up some 35 grain bergers last night and took them with me this morning. They show alot of promise. This is the second 204 that I've played around with Dogtowns with. Don't know if I'll ever get them into the tack driver category but they're cheap and plenty accurate for plinking and just playing around with. Besides I have about 1200 of them. Anyhow at the end of this mornings session I had 3 pennies in my pocket and taped them to the target. 3 shots-3 dead pennies. 27.8 grains of IMR 4895, BR-4 pimers, Rem cases and 35 grain Bergers at 100 yds. I like this rifle. Dave

[LiveToShoot]

I've drooled over the VTR a couple of times, and I'm looking forward to reading reviews on how it performs...

[moosetrax]

I've been arguing this barrel in forums for months now. Regardless of what people will tell you about the barrel being cut too much or not being stiff enough, this rifle is dead on the money accurate... litteraly. I have put three shot groups on quarters at 100 yds with mine in .308. as far as recoil, there is none, it's a .308 and the muzzle brake gives it a nice crack, but not what you'd expect compared to most brakes. I threw the stock in the trash. Its not floated, nor will it float, it is not bedded or blocked in any way. I ordered a Bell and Carlson A2 Varmint/Tactical stock with the full length bedding block. Cheaper than a McMillan, and it's fine if you're not tracking taliban snipers in Afghanistan. The X-Mark pro trigger is safe to about 2.5 pounds, but won't reliably re-engage the sear below that. One out af about every 3 cycles will let the firing pin follow the bolt down. The shorter barrel is actually shorter than 22 inches since there is an over bored recess in the muzzle brake. You have about 20.5 inches of actual barrel. Buy one, buy a good floated stock, a good set of rings and bases, and throw on a quality scope, and you'll be a nightmare to anything from ground hogs to deer to hostage takers inside 800 yds, if you can perform as well as the rifle you're behind.

[LiveToShoot]

Informative post MooseTrax...welcome to G&G.

[PONTIACDM]

My brother has the 308 and loves it. I have a picture of him shooting it in my photo album here.

[telkev]

[quote=moosetrax;549524]I've been arguing this barrel in forums for months now. Regardless of what people will tell you about the barrel being cut too much or not being stiff enough, this rifle is dead on the money accurate... litteraly. I have put three shot groups on quarters at 100 yds with mine in .308. as far as recoil, there is none, it's a .308 and the muzzle brake gives it a nice crack, but not what you'd expect compared to most brakes. I threw the stock in the trash. Its not floated, nor will it float, it is not bedded or blocked in any way. I ordered a Bell and Carlson A2 Varmint/Tactical stock with the full length bedding block. Cheaper than a McMillan, and it's fine if you're not tracking taliban snipers in Afghanistan. The X-Mark pro trigger is safe to about 2.5 pounds, but won't reliably re-engage the sear below that. One out af about every 3 cycles will let the firing pin follow the bolt down. The shorter barrel is actually shorter than 22 inches since there is an over bored recess in the muzzle brake. You have about 20.5 inches of actual barrel. Buy one, buy a good floated stock, a good set of rings and bases, and throw on a quality scope, and you'll be a nightmare to anything from ground hogs to deer to hostage takers inside 800 yds, if you can perform as well as the rifle you're behind.[/quote

I am curious, since you have one, how does the accuracy hold up at long distances when you heat the barrel up with 20-30 rounds in less than 20 minutes as you would in an F-class match? Does the heat disipate better than a round barrel?

[DDJ1]

Well actually I floated my barrel last night using just 1/2' and 3/4' dowels wrapped with 60 grit paper. Paper slides up all the way to the chamber. I'll shoot it and check it with a warm barrel. Love this gun. Dave

[moosetrax]

Mine would never float. I cut it out in a milling machine, and it always wanted to pull toward the left side of the barrel. I hated the stock anyway. Maybe it didn't like me either. As for the heat dissipation and long range accuracy, I don't really know. I know that at 100 yds, after about 45 or 50 rounds in about 20 min, it still groups under 3/4 inch. Never tried long range hot barrel shots. Water filled half gallon milk jugs make a big splash at 500 yds, but my corn field is planted in now and it's hard to shoot down cornrows. Don't know what an "F-class" is. Never shot competitive. I spent my time with the Army and deer huntin across big pastures. I don't have a long range anywhere around here, although we're trying to get one built. I've got a friend with a Barrett M82 .50 that seems a waste to shoot at 100 yds.

[7.62/39]

Originally Posted by moosetrax

I've been arguing this barrel in forums for months now. Regardless of what people will tell you about the barrel being cut too much or not being stiff enough, this rifle is dead on the money accurate... litteraly. I have put three shot groups on quarters at 100 yds with mine in .308. as far as recoil, there is none, it's a .308 and the muzzle brake gives it a nice crack, but not what you'd expect compared to most brakes. I threw the stock in the trash. Its not floated, nor will it float, it is not bedded or blocked in any way. I ordered a Bell and Carlson A2 Varmint/Tactical stock with the full length bedding block. Cheaper than a McMillan, and it's fine if you're not tracking taliban snipers in Afghanistan. The X-Mark pro trigger is safe to about 2.5 pounds, but won't reliably re-engage the sear below that. One out af about every 3 cycles will let the firing pin follow the bolt down. The shorter barrel is actually shorter than 22 inches since there is an over bored recess in the muzzle brake. You have about 20.5 inches of actual barrel. Buy one, buy a good floated stock, a good set of rings and bases, and throw on a quality scope, and you'll be a nightmare to anything from ground hogs to deer to hostage takers inside 800 yds, if you can perform as well as the rifle you're behind.

[omdi]

Got my VTR 308 fitted with a 6-24 x44 nighteater, 3 weeks ago, feels real good to handle, took it to the range first time with some federal 150 grain, put them all over the place like a shot gun, then put some hand loads 150SST HORNADY 46 gr ADI 2208, what a difference at 100 yds clover leaf, then went hunting in the high country , it made short work of roos Very happy cant wait to go for deer and pigs highly recomend, if your looking for somethig a little different,other gun; Mk5 weatherby 308 (loves federal 150s and 150ssts H/L)
I know the world sucks, but if it did'nt we would all fall off

[moosetrax]

Originally Posted by omdi

took it to the range first time with some federal 150 grain, put them all over the place like a shot gun, then put some hand loads 150SST HORNADY 46 gr ADI 2208, what a difference at 100 yds clover leaf,

Try some Hornady A-Max or the Hornady TAP either of them in 168gr Match. The VTR barrel's twist is as close to perfect for the 168 as it can get. I think you'd like it. I've hunted with SST's for years and as near as I can tell the A-Max is a Match grade SST. Thought you might like to know, if you didn't already...

[Britgunner]

Is there any way to fit a moderator on the vtr ?I am looking around for a varmint rifle in .223 and really like the look of the vtr but i want to be able to fit a mod to whatever i get

[DDJ1]

Just got back from the range with the 204. I still have to lighten the trigger some more. So far I only slightly backed off on the weight screw. Finally broke down and ordered a trogger pull guage. Don't know why I've never had one. Anyhow I was using FL sized Reminton cases, Rem 7 1/2 primers'26 grains of H322,35 grain Bergers with an overall length of 2.306. I was also shooting Midway Dogtowns and they were slightly shorter. Here's the 2 Berger groups I shot. They're both 5 shot groups even tho it looks like there is only 4 holes. I will guarantee that they are both 5 shot groups. It was windy and that was really bothering me. Anyhow I'll keep tweaking. The Dogtowns so far shoot bigger groups but usually under an inch. Dave

[Paul T]

Originally Posted by captain 223

I have a Remington Model 700 VTR in .223. It is a very balanced weapon. The triangle shaped barrel dissapats heat well. The muzzle brake works but, it is very loud! I have been shooting 280 to 300 yards with this weapon. Been able to hit golf balls at this range. About 3 out 5 shots. I am pretty new to the .223 round. I have been loading them with 22 grains of imr 3031 pushing a nosler .55 grain bullet. Now I have found that 24 grains of powder gives me about 5" less bullet drop at 300 yards.
Any thoughts on a 62 grain bullet? For the same load.

Whats the twist rate?

[captain 223]

for every inch is nine rev of the bullet I think 1:9

[samuel]

Originally Posted by captain 223

for every inch is nine rev of the bullet I think 1:9

Reverse that! The bullet turns one revolution for every 9".That means the bullet has turned four revolutions in three feet.At a 2500fps average thats 60,000rpm,s Oh well,you can't see it to count anyway. sam.

[moosetrax]

actually, its 3333 turns a sec, 200,000 RPM. I think the twist rate is actually matched to a 55 gr bullet, but not too sure. I know the .308's 1:12 is matched to the 168gr. You might not have much problem with heavier bullets until you get into extended ranges

[sambar]

I have one in 204. Absolute dynamite on foxes, rabbits and dogs out t0 400 mtrs.

[Bravo]

sambar, your avatar picture is hilarious. Welcome to G&G

[sambar]

bravo, yep, the foxes are pretty dangerous over here!!