Remington 700 Variants

twisterx44 · 03-14-2008, 09:54 PM

Hey all, just got back from a large gunshow, apparantly the largest all year in OR. I came across a rifle that really caught my eye, and if it hadn't been 900.00 I would have taken her home for sure. It was a short barrelled "police model" Rem 700 chambered for .308. It didn't have the specific make, and stupidly i didn't ask for it. I'm a small guy (about 5'6, 130lbs) with pretty short arms, so the short barrel really appealed to me. (With my RRA AR15, I'm comfortable shooting with the telestock 2-3 positions from fully closed.)

I wouldnt mind getting one of those used. I was told I could find one used for as low as 400. Dunno if it's true though. I was looking around on Impactguns.com trying to just find it, and i found two that look like it. The weird thing is the huge price difference. Anyone know why? Even if you dont, what can you tell me about...well anything I mentioned I guess? They had the same rifle in .243 and .223 as well as .300winmag but I have been told and believe myself that the .308 is a great performer, plus its pretty cheap.

Here are the two rifles:

Remington 700 308 Special Purpose Synthetic Tactical, Hogue Stock

Remington 700 LTR 308 (Light Tactical Rifle)

Is the cheaper model really that much worse? I woudn't need to shoot past 400yds.

Thanks

spurrit · 03-14-2008, 11:10 PM

The expensive one has a fluted barrel and a better stock. Plus, if you paint anything black and call it "tactical", it's automatically worth 30% more!

twisterx44 · 03-14-2008, 11:15 PM

They're both black haha.

So you think the first one will serve me well?

spurrit · 03-14-2008, 11:17 PM

......but they're only calling one tactical.

twisterx44 · 03-14-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by twisterx44

So you think the first one will serve me well?

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jv101 · 03-15-2008, 12:02 AM

im sure either would do fine with a good scope and bullet match!
i would probably go with the cheaper one if your on a budget so you have some money left for a scope, rings and whatever else you may want. or if you have money to spend then go ahead with the more pricey one!

twisterx44 · 03-15-2008, 12:21 AM

for 400yards and under, does anyone have any scope reccomendations? Would a 3-9X40 be ok? They have nice ones at some sporting goods stores around here for about 75.00, seems low from what i read on here

spurrit · 03-15-2008, 12:37 AM

Get on E-bay and buy an old Weaver or Lyman 4 or 6X. More bang for your buck. 6X is plenty. You don't need a variable for that kinda distance.

twisterx44 · 03-15-2008, 01:34 AM

...whats wrong with a scope that can do 3-9? 6x is included in that. I've never understood the advantage of a fixed-power scope...

I dont think i could see a bulls eye on a target all that well from 300 yards with 6X...

spurrit · 03-15-2008, 01:56 AM

Fewer moving parts to break. In his price range, they WILL break. Plus, higher magnification gets novice shooters to thinking they can shoot farther than they can.

ArkansasHunter · 03-15-2008, 01:57 AM

What ever scope or power you buy I would recommend a 50mm for one of these rifles.
You will be able to see better all around...A.H

turner · 03-15-2008, 11:07 AM

The price range you mentioned for a scope can be difficult for finding a decent quality scope. I'd first recommend a moderate power and medium sized objective lens as the higher power and big objective scopes are MORE costly to produce. I'd look for a sale on a medium sized scope; a 2-7x32 or 3-9x40 as two examples. Here's a few models that are slightly higher priced than you mentioned but known for consistent quality/dollar. The last link is an exceptional value. Midway's site also has a link on each of those pages to see customer ratings of each scope. Good luck!

MidwayUSA - Sightron S1 Scope 3-9x 40mm Plex Reticle Matte

MidwayUSA - Sightron S1 Scope 3-9x 40mm Mil-Dot Reticle Matte

Nikon 3-9x40 ProStaff Riflescope

This is an excellent Value; it's a Bushnell Elite 3200 rebadged to Browning and a $200+ scope!
Natchez Shooters Supplies - Bushnell Products - Bushnell Browning Scope 3-9X40

[b][i]Well, Let's add these too then...

The Optic Zone - Detail

Weaver 3-9x38 Classic V9 Series Rifle Scope

[Nikon 3-9x40 ProStaff Riflescope

Nikon 3-9x40 ProStaff Riflescope

twisterx44 · 03-15-2008, 11:57 AM

no, you guys misunderstood me. I am willing to spend around 150 for a scope, I just said i saw ones at some sporting goods stores for 75.00 and that seemed low. I don't think you can get much of a 400yd scope for under 100

223 Shooter · 03-16-2008, 10:04 AM

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I wouldnt mind getting one of those used. I was told I could find one used for as low as 400.

About the only way you could find a used LTR for $400 might be for one that is stolen or from someone that was truly desperate for cash. The only used 700s I see for anywhere near $400 these days are the SPS plastic stocked sporters.

With that said the SPS Tactical would serve you well. It is like the LTR without flutes and a Hogue stock instead of the HS Precision used on the LTR. You could get the SPS Tactical for now and always find a HS Precision or B&C Medalist stock later and sell the Hogue stock.

I won a HS Precision stock on eBay early last year and then later bought a SPS Varmint and dropped it right in.

I also have a .223 LTR and it is has been my most accurate rifle ever. Back when I bought mine they were "only" $789. But I had a trade and did not have to pay much difference.

twisterx44 · 03-16-2008, 01:15 PM

Ah, Thanks. Considering the "Special Pupose Hogue Stock" one is under 600, I woudn't mind saving myself the trouble of looking in pawn shops and just buying it new. With a decent fixed power scope and a little skill from the shooter, I should be able to make shots at 350yds, yes?

03-14-2008, 09:54 PM	#1
twisterx44 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: (SW) Portland, OR Posts: 406	Remington 700 Variants Hey all, just got back from a large gunshow, apparantly the largest all year in OR. I came across a rifle that really caught my eye, and if it hadn't been 900.00 I would have taken her home for sure. It was a short barrelled "police model" Rem 700 chambered for .308. It didn't have the specific make, and stupidly i didn't ask for it. I'm a small guy (about 5'6, 130lbs) with pretty short arms, so the short barrel really appealed to me. (With my RRA AR15, I'm comfortable shooting with the telestock 2-3 positions from fully closed.) I wouldnt mind getting one of those used. I was told I could find one used for as low as 400. Dunno if it's true though. I was looking around on Impactguns.com trying to just find it, and i found two that look like it. The weird thing is the huge price difference. Anyone know why? Even if you dont, what can you tell me about...well anything I mentioned I guess? They had the same rifle in .243 and .223 as well as .300winmag but I have been told and believe myself that the .308 is a great performer, plus its pretty cheap. Here are the two rifles: Remington 700 308 Special Purpose Synthetic Tactical, Hogue Stock Remington 700 LTR 308 (Light Tactical Rifle) Is the cheaper model really that much worse? I woudn't need to shoot past 400yds. Thanks

03-15-2008, 11:07 AM	#12
turner Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tn Posts: 623	The price range you mentioned for a scope can be difficult for finding a decent quality scope. I'd first recommend a moderate power and medium sized objective lens as the higher power and big objective scopes are MORE costly to produce. I'd look for a sale on a medium sized scope; a 2-7x32 or 3-9x40 as two examples. Here's a few models that are slightly higher priced than you mentioned but known for consistent quality/dollar. The last link is an exceptional value. Midway's site also has a link on each of those pages to see customer ratings of each scope. Good luck! MidwayUSA - Sightron S1 Scope 3-9x 40mm Plex Reticle Matte MidwayUSA - Sightron S1 Scope 3-9x 40mm Mil-Dot Reticle Matte Nikon 3-9x40 ProStaff Riflescope This is an excellent Value; it's a Bushnell Elite 3200 rebadged to Browning and a $200+ scope! Natchez Shooters Supplies - Bushnell Products - Bushnell Browning Scope 3-9X40 [b][i]Well, Let's add these too then... The Optic Zone - Detail Weaver 3-9x38 Classic V9 Series Rifle Scope [Nikon 3-9x40 ProStaff Riflescope Nikon 3-9x40 ProStaff Riflescope Last edited by turner; 03-15-2008 at 04:06 PM. Reason: another link

03-14-2008, 11:10 PM	#2
spurrit Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 60	The expensive one has a fluted barrel and a better stock. Plus, if you paint anything black and call it "tactical", it's automatically worth 30% more!

03-14-2008, 11:15 PM	#3
twisterx44 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: (SW) Portland, OR Posts: 406	They're both black haha. So you think the first one will serve me well?

03-14-2008, 11:17 PM	#4
spurrit Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 60	......but they're only calling one tactical.

03-15-2008, 12:02 AM	#6
jv101 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 145	im sure either would do fine with a good scope and bullet match! i would probably go with the cheaper one if your on a budget so you have some money left for a scope, rings and whatever else you may want. or if you have money to spend then go ahead with the more pricey one!

03-15-2008, 12:21 AM	#7
twisterx44 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: (SW) Portland, OR Posts: 406	for 400yards and under, does anyone have any scope reccomendations? Would a 3-9X40 be ok? They have nice ones at some sporting goods stores around here for about 75.00, seems low from what i read on here

03-15-2008, 12:37 AM	#8
spurrit Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 60	Get on E-bay and buy an old Weaver or Lyman 4 or 6X. More bang for your buck. 6X is plenty. You don't need a variable for that kinda distance.

03-15-2008, 01:34 AM	#9
twisterx44 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: (SW) Portland, OR Posts: 406	...whats wrong with a scope that can do 3-9? 6x is included in that. I've never understood the advantage of a fixed-power scope... I dont think i could see a bulls eye on a target all that well from 300 yards with 6X...

03-15-2008, 01:56 AM	#10
spurrit Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 60	Fewer moving parts to break. In his price range, they WILL break. Plus, higher magnification gets novice shooters to thinking they can shoot farther than they can.

03-15-2008, 01:57 AM	#11
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,709	What ever scope or power you buy I would recommend a 50mm for one of these rifles. You will be able to see better all around...A.H

03-15-2008, 11:57 AM	#13
twisterx44 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: (SW) Portland, OR Posts: 406	no, you guys misunderstood me. I am willing to spend around 150 for a scope, I just said i saw ones at some sporting goods stores for 75.00 and that seemed low. I don't think you can get much of a 400yd scope for under 100

03-16-2008, 01:15 PM	#15
twisterx44 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: (SW) Portland, OR Posts: 406	Ah, Thanks. Considering the "Special Pupose Hogue Stock" one is under 600, I woudn't mind saving myself the trouble of looking in pawn shops and just buying it new. With a decent fixed power scope and a little skill from the shooter, I should be able to make shots at 350yds, yes?