Mounting a scope on a Wingmaster?

dosbow · 05-08-2008, 06:21 PM

I've got a Weaver T1 Converta Mount, how to I remove the pins for the mounting bolts? Also, do the washers go under the bolt head?
Thanks, Dave

jerry · 05-08-2008, 07:59 PM

Use a ball point pen or punch. Yes you can put the pins back in.
Here is mine.

And without the scope mount.

dosbow · 05-08-2008, 08:14 PM

Very nice! Do the pins slide out from either side? I hope to be posting a pic like that this fall.......LOL
Thanks for the info and the pics,
Dave

jerry · 05-09-2008, 08:35 AM

Yes they will. I typically get in the habit of pushing them out one way. Pushing the pins from the trigger group is also part of the general maintenance for the 870. It gives access to the reciever and trigger group for inspection and cleaning.

Don't over tighten your screws. Albeit the reciver is steel, it could be overtightened and cause binding. Also be aware that the saddle clamp will ride over the left side of the reciever. If moisture etc. gets down in there you could have corrosion issues on the gun. I padded mine with clear duck tape and put a thin layer of grease on the side of the reciever.

Look forward to the fall pic

dosbow · 05-09-2008, 04:00 PM

They popped right out with a nail set. With those removed, does the trigger assembly drop down? I'm an archry guy new to guns......

Thanks for the heads-up on the overtightening and possible moisture problem, I'll go loosen them up some right now.......
Dave

jerry · 05-10-2008, 04:52 AM

Yes Sir, just grasp the trigger guard and pull down. The assy comes out.

SwedeSteve · 05-10-2008, 08:46 AM

Great info jerry! I've got one for my 870. Gonna check out the tape/grease deal. Thanks!

jerry · 05-11-2008, 09:55 AM

It's a slick set up guys. In my experience, I can shoot more accurately with the irons. The mount is on the reciever, so there can be some barrel variations shot to shot. I typically experienced 2-4 inches variation at 75-80 yards. My main reason for installing it was hunting in a pretty thick brambly area. I figued I could see openings through the brush better for a possibly clearer shot. It also gives a nice bit of magnification for the max distance shots. I typically don't shoot over 80 yards with this gun. In very good conditions I may try a 100 yard shot, but I'm usually crouched down, cold, hungry & have only the limbs God gave me as a shooting platform.

SwedeSteve · 05-11-2008, 12:27 PM

I use my 870 as a "camp" gun mostly. It's the only gun allowed to be loaded in camp. I did the scope thing, and have shot it a lot. I feel comfortable enought to take 100yd shots with it. I can usually shoot a 3"-5" 3 round group.

silverstreak · 05-28-2008, 01:25 PM

I prefer the Remington cantilever barrel for accuracy with a scope, using sabot slugs. That way the scope is attached to the barrel and you don't have to worry about losing the adjustment each time you take off the slug barrel to use a shot barrel. Also, with the cantilever barrel there is no variation due to any slight movement of barrel in the receiver.

Take a look at Remington.com. It takes some real shooting to get the kind of accuracy they show, but the cantilever setup is accurate as most rifles. I'm happy with the setup and don't worry about shots +100 yds. I'll have to say, most of my long range shots are at targets. Most deer are taken within 100 yds. Remington sells a cantilever barrel and shot barrel set with some guns and is available as an extra (or replacement) barrel. It doesn't break the bank if you buy the Express version and Mossberg makes a cantilever barrel and scope set to fit the 870 (for those who already own the gun). Hastings also has an offering.

05-08-2008, 06:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
dosbow Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17	Mounting a scope on a Wingmaster? I've got a Weaver T1 Converta Mount, how to I remove the pins for the mounting bolts? Also, do the washers go under the bolt head? Thanks, Dave

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jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,750 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Use a ball point pen or punch. Yes you can put the pins back in. Here is mine. And without the scope mount. Last edited by jerry; 05-08-2008 at 08:02 PM.

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SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 6,006 Images: 1	Great info jerry! I've got one for my 870. Gonna check out the tape/grease deal. Thanks! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

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SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 6,006 Images: 1	I use my 870 as a "camp" gun mostly. It's the only gun allowed to be loaded in camp. I did the scope thing, and have shot it a lot. I feel comfortable enought to take 100yd shots with it. I can usually shoot a 3"-5" 3 round group. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

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05-08-2008, 08:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
dosbow Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17	Very nice! Do the pins slide out from either side? I hope to be posting a pic like that this fall.......LOL Thanks for the info and the pics, Dave

05-09-2008, 08:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,750 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Yes they will. I typically get in the habit of pushing them out one way. Pushing the pins from the trigger group is also part of the general maintenance for the 870. It gives access to the reciever and trigger group for inspection and cleaning. Don't over tighten your screws. Albeit the reciver is steel, it could be overtightened and cause binding. Also be aware that the saddle clamp will ride over the left side of the reciever. If moisture etc. gets down in there you could have corrosion issues on the gun. I padded mine with clear duck tape and put a thin layer of grease on the side of the reciever. Look forward to the fall pic

05-09-2008, 04:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
dosbow Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17	They popped right out with a nail set. With those removed, does the trigger assembly drop down? I'm an archry guy new to guns...... Thanks for the heads-up on the overtightening and possible moisture problem, I'll go loosen them up some right now....... Dave

05-10-2008, 04:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,750 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Yes Sir, just grasp the trigger guard and pull down. The assy comes out.

05-11-2008, 09:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,750 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	It's a slick set up guys. In my experience, I can shoot more accurately with the irons. The mount is on the reciever, so there can be some barrel variations shot to shot. I typically experienced 2-4 inches variation at 75-80 yards. My main reason for installing it was hunting in a pretty thick brambly area. I figued I could see openings through the brush better for a possibly clearer shot. It also gives a nice bit of magnification for the max distance shots. I typically don't shoot over 80 yards with this gun. In very good conditions I may try a 100 yard shot, but I'm usually crouched down, cold, hungry & have only the limbs God gave me as a shooting platform.

05-28-2008, 01:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
silverstreak Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5	I prefer the Remington cantilever barrel for accuracy with a scope, using sabot slugs. That way the scope is attached to the barrel and you don't have to worry about losing the adjustment each time you take off the slug barrel to use a shot barrel. Also, with the cantilever barrel there is no variation due to any slight movement of barrel in the receiver. Take a look at Remington.com. It takes some real shooting to get the kind of accuracy they show, but the cantilever setup is accurate as most rifles. I'm happy with the setup and don't worry about shots +100 yds. I'll have to say, most of my long range shots are at targets. Most deer are taken within 100 yds. Remington sells a cantilever barrel and shot barrel set with some guns and is available as an extra (or replacement) barrel. It doesn't break the bank if you buy the Express version and Mossberg makes a cantilever barrel and scope set to fit the 870 (for those who already own the gun). Hastings also has an offering.