mini 14 accuracy

Rex in OTZ · 11-25-2008, 01:21 PM

If it is consistantly hitting in the same place shot after shot no matter if it's a foot high and two foot to the right, you'll hit what you are shooting at, its annoying but not impossible, we have become spoiled over time and nitpick the small stuff too much.
thats why they used to stalk prey to get in range of your weapon, having a long range target rifle set up to take game at long ranges doesent make you a skilled sportsman its a short cut and not prefirred by me.
If you are going hunting, dont cut corners.........Hunt!
The Mini 14 was never advertised as a target rifle, was never developed as one,
the early ad's it was billed up to farmers, ranchers (ranch rifle) & hunters and it does its job admirably, dont ever compare it to a AR it's like compareing a cow poney to a clidesdale. they each do there job well and can on occasion do the work of the other but not well.

DaTeacha · 11-25-2008, 02:16 PM

" If you are going hunting, dont cut corners.........Hunt! "

That's why I stay on the ground instead of getting up in a tree.

billy · 11-25-2008, 02:39 PM

i dont hunt and i do a lot of shooting from a bench.
thats why i dont own a mini-14.
they ARE cool as hell lookin though!

Rex in OTZ · 11-25-2008, 04:11 PM

Thats what the cow poney say's about the clydesdale!

xSephirothx · 11-25-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jrswanson1

xSephirothx, get a muzzle brake for your Mini. It really helps.

Thanks for the advice

Smith&WessonGuy · 12-08-2008, 10:08 PM

the peep sight is a good thing the mini-14 has but it is still inaccurate. Its pretty loud. Beats my 30-30.

Laufer · 12-15-2008, 10:20 AM

How about a muzzle brake for a Mini 30?

If you pay for the part and a gunsmith fee, wouldn't the cost be about $60 or so?
If the post sight must be moved away from the muzzle
-as with a flash hider-this would appear to reduce accuracy, because of less distance.

jrswanson1 · 12-15-2008, 12:42 PM

Mini muzzle brakes are generally do it yourself kind of deals. You push the brake on to the muzzle, pop the pin in the front site out, put the new pin in. It helps to tame the vibrations from the shot.

Jim

Laufer · 12-18-2008, 01:50 AM

jrswanson1:
Thanks.
But does the front sight have to be moved a bit aft?
I've seen a couple of Mini 14s with the front post moved several inches to the rear.

jrswanson1 · 12-18-2008, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laufer

jrswanson1:
Thanks.
But does the front sight have to be moved a bit aft?
I've seen a couple of Mini 14s with the front post moved several inches to the rear.

No, the front sight does not need to be moved. Most of the muzzle brakes and flash suppressors are slip ons. There are some that require removing the front sight, but they usually recommend having a gunsmith do that.

Jim

Sandovaldavy · 12-28-2008, 07:33 PM

Just bought a mini 14 today. After reading some of these post I don't know if it was a good idea. Bought one because of all the hype on assault weapons. Still new to hunting and do not own my own hunting rifle. Figured I still have about 11 months till deer and elk season in Colorado. During hunting season this year had no luck so we set up targets at 100 yards at the range nearby. Shoot, I was happy getting 18 of 20 shots on a 12" target, much less 2" groups. I was shooting with a buddies Ruger .270 with a scope. But all these post are very informative and I'm really not looking into spending that much more on up grades. If I can shoot empty cans at 100 yds. for occasional plinking once in awhile, I'm good with that for now.

Cynikal · 12-31-2008, 08:38 PM

[quote=Sandovaldavy;734877]Just bought a mini 14 today. After reading some of these post I don't know if it was a good idea. Bought one because of all the hype on assault weapons.

Was thinking that way myself,done got the others,just wanted to add to collection. Now I don't know what I'll do. Save my money and pay the mortgage, I guess.

Just not as fun.

ALR · 01-10-2009, 12:35 AM

I was thinking of getting the Tapco stock for my mini 14. Sure looks like it would make it more totable. Also bring it into the BLACKRIFLE realm. Anyone done this yet? I wonder if it would help stabelize the action more. I also have a 22lr conversion for it and it is the most accurate 22lr auto I have shot. Can compare it to a high priced bolt for accuracy.

jrswanson1 · 01-10-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR

I was thinking of getting the Tapco stock for my mini 14. Sure looks like it would make it more totable. Also bring it into the BLACKRIFLE realm. Anyone done this yet? I wonder if it would help stabelize the action more. I also have a 22lr conversion for it and it is the most accurate 22lr auto I have shot. Can compare it to a high priced bolt for accuracy.

I got the ATI Strike Force stock, which has worked out really well. It has 4 rails, adjustable length of pull, 5 mounting points for a sling, and it folds. Did not notice much of a difference in weight from the original wood stock, but I'm getting significantly better groups with it and the Masen muzzle brake on it.

Jim

Rex in OTZ · 01-12-2009, 04:21 PM

New stocks are great, some those that first came out had problems interfearing with the op-rod and had been known to shrink in sub-zero temps (Greenough factor) causein all sorts of mayham.

Diatribes · 01-12-2009, 05:21 PM

I took my recently aquired mini-14 to the range last weekend and shot it for the first time. I was very impressed with this rifle. With open sights at about 35 yards i got a 2 inch group with 40 rounds. All shots within 2 inches. Performed better than my Saiga .223 . Only paid $450 for a used stainless mini at gander mountain in almost new condition. The picture shows a scope but it wasnt mounted when I shot it

jrswanson1 · 01-13-2009, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diatribes

I took my recently aquired mini-14 to the range last weekend and shot it for the first time. I was very impressed with this rifle. With open sights at about 35 yards i got a 2 inch group with 40 rounds. All shots within 2 inches. Performed better than my Saiga .223 . Only paid $450 for a used stainless mini at gander mountain in almost new condition. The picture shows a scope but it wasnt mounted when I shot it

Go to Ruger's website and order some of their 20 round magazines, they're $30 each plus shipping. Well work the money.

Jim

air36 · 03-25-2009, 11:29 PM

first GLASS BED EVERYTING!!! this will be the biggest bang for the buck. do the reciever, trigger group, mag well, charging slide (space with 3 layers of electrical tape for clearance)and yes even the barrel (bed the barrel to the shroud) then add a compensator (weight in the front of the barrel reduces harmonics) then add an accu strut or equivilant, next trigger job you'll have a 1 moa rifle. if you want to get even smaller groups then get a reduced gas bushing/adjustable gas block, (does very little but some, lighten the charging slide (works good for rapid fire, reduces recoil effect on barrel from heavy piston. only use with reduced gas)free float the gas block (again does very little but everything adds up). you now should be down to 5/8 to 3/4 moa. any more will require a match barrel. but then maybe you'll get 3/8 to 1/2". everything above the barrel part will cost less than 200$ and it'll shoot like a dream!

happy1 · 03-26-2009, 04:02 PM

Go to Perfect union web site for the Mini-14, you'll be happy you did.

Paul

Mando · 03-26-2009, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happy1

Go to Perfect union web site for the Mini-14, you'll be happy you did.

Paul

+1

There's so much you can do to accurize the Mini-14. Above mentioned site seems to be the best source for modifications and stuff to do to make that mini more accurate.

11-25-2008, 02:16 PM	#42
DaTeacha Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: near Funk, Ohio Posts: 2,915	" If you are going hunting, dont cut corners.........Hunt! " That's why I stay on the ground instead of getting up in a tree. __________________ Teach NRA -- If you're reading this, you should be a member. United, We Stand.

11-25-2008, 02:39 PM	#43
billy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 19,731 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 161	i dont hunt and i do a lot of shooting from a bench. thats why i dont own a mini-14. they ARE cool as hell lookin though! __________________

01-10-2009, 12:35 AM	#53
ALR STAIN'ALIVE,STAIN'ALIVE! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: St Charles MO Posts: 904	Little Black Dress I was thinking of getting the Tapco stock for my mini 14. Sure looks like it would make it more totable. Also bring it into the BLACKRIFLE realm. Anyone done this yet? I wonder if it would help stabelize the action more. I also have a 22lr conversion for it and it is the most accurate 22lr auto I have shot. Can compare it to a high priced bolt for accuracy. __________________ AGENT ORANGE The last ghost of Vietnam ATF- Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, where are the chips?

01-12-2009, 05:21 PM	#56
Diatribes Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 400	I took my recently aquired mini-14 to the range last weekend and shot it for the first time. I was very impressed with this rifle. With open sights at about 35 yards i got a 2 inch group with 40 rounds. All shots within 2 inches. Performed better than my Saiga .223 . Only paid $450 for a used stainless mini at gander mountain in almost new condition. The picture shows a scope but it wasnt mounted when I shot it Attached Thumbnails __________________ Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.

11-25-2008, 01:21 PM	#41
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NorthWest Alaska Posts: 975	If it is consistantly hitting in the same place shot after shot no matter if it's a foot high and two foot to the right, you'll hit what you are shooting at, its annoying but not impossible, we have become spoiled over time and nitpick the small stuff too much. thats why they used to stalk prey to get in range of your weapon, having a long range target rifle set up to take game at long ranges doesent make you a skilled sportsman its a short cut and not prefirred by me. If you are going hunting, dont cut corners.........Hunt! The Mini 14 was never advertised as a target rifle, was never developed as one, the early ad's it was billed up to farmers, ranchers (ranch rifle) & hunters and it does its job admirably, dont ever compare it to a AR it's like compareing a cow poney to a clidesdale. they each do there job well and can on occasion do the work of the other but not well.

11-25-2008, 04:11 PM	#44
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NorthWest Alaska Posts: 975	Thats what the cow poney say's about the clydesdale!

12-08-2008, 10:08 PM	#46
Smith&WessonGuy Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 47	the peep sight is a good thing the mini-14 has but it is still inaccurate. Its pretty loud. Beats my 30-30.

12-15-2008, 10:20 AM	#47
Laufer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Down south. Posts: 547	How about a muzzle brake for a Mini 30? If you pay for the part and a gunsmith fee, wouldn't the cost be about $60 or so? If the post sight must be moved away from the muzzle -as with a flash hider-this would appear to reduce accuracy, because of less distance.

12-15-2008, 12:42 PM	#48
jrswanson1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,098	Mini muzzle brakes are generally do it yourself kind of deals. You push the brake on to the muzzle, pop the pin in the front site out, put the new pin in. It helps to tame the vibrations from the shot. Jim

12-18-2008, 01:50 AM	#49
Laufer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Down south. Posts: 547	jrswanson1: Thanks. But does the front sight have to be moved a bit aft? I've seen a couple of Mini 14s with the front post moved several inches to the rear.

12-28-2008, 07:33 PM	#51
Sandovaldavy Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5	Just bought a mini 14 today. After reading some of these post I don't know if it was a good idea. Bought one because of all the hype on assault weapons. Still new to hunting and do not own my own hunting rifle. Figured I still have about 11 months till deer and elk season in Colorado. During hunting season this year had no luck so we set up targets at 100 yards at the range nearby. Shoot, I was happy getting 18 of 20 shots on a 12" target, much less 2" groups. I was shooting with a buddies Ruger .270 with a scope. But all these post are very informative and I'm really not looking into spending that much more on up grades. If I can shoot empty cans at 100 yds. for occasional plinking once in awhile, I'm good with that for now.

12-31-2008, 08:38 PM	#52
Cynikal Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Springfield Illinois Posts: 164	[quote=Sandovaldavy;734877]Just bought a mini 14 today. After reading some of these post I don't know if it was a good idea. Bought one because of all the hype on assault weapons. Was thinking that way myself,done got the others,just wanted to add to collection. Now I don't know what I'll do. Save my money and pay the mortgage, I guess. Just not as fun.

01-12-2009, 04:21 PM	#55
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NorthWest Alaska Posts: 975	New stocks are great, some those that first came out had problems interfearing with the op-rod and had been known to shrink in sub-zero temps (Greenough factor) causein all sorts of mayham.

03-25-2009, 11:29 PM	#58
air36 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 7	first GLASS BED EVERYTING!!! this will be the biggest bang for the buck. do the reciever, trigger group, mag well, charging slide (space with 3 layers of electrical tape for clearance)and yes even the barrel (bed the barrel to the shroud) then add a compensator (weight in the front of the barrel reduces harmonics) then add an accu strut or equivilant, next trigger job you'll have a 1 moa rifle. if you want to get even smaller groups then get a reduced gas bushing/adjustable gas block, (does very little but some, lighten the charging slide (works good for rapid fire, reduces recoil effect on barrel from heavy piston. only use with reduced gas)free float the gas block (again does very little but everything adds up). you now should be down to 5/8 to 3/4 moa. any more will require a match barrel. but then maybe you'll get 3/8 to 1/2". everything above the barrel part will cost less than 200$ and it'll shoot like a dream!

03-26-2009, 04:02 PM	#59
happy1 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Surprise, AZ Posts: 12	Go to Perfect union web site for the Mini-14, you'll be happy you did. Paul