Ruger's New .327 Mag.

ArkansasHunter · 01-02-2008, 01:39 PM

Ruger's SP 101 has got a new chambering named the .327 Fedral Magnum !!!
The case of this new cartridge is 1/8 "(1.200 ) longer than the .32 H&R magnum.
The case walls are beefed up for greater strenght.
Rugers engineer wanted the case to be able to handle up to 45,000 psi of pressure.

Federal and Speer have planed 3 different loadings for this new cartridge.
The first loading will be packaged in Federal boxes
and has an 85-grain federal Hydra-Shock bullet and muzzle velocity of 1330 fps in the 3" 1/16 inch barrel of the SP 101.
This loading was designed to be a low recoil round
and will generate just 334 ft-lbs of energy.
It was also tested in an 18 1/2 inch barrel and produced a muzzle velocity of some 1830 fps.

The 2nd. loading that will be packaged under the American Eagle box is a 100-grain Federal softpoint.
This round will go 1400 fps at the muzzle and produces about 435 ft-lbs of energy.
Out of the same carbine 2010 fps.

The 3rd. loading is to be packaged in Speer boxes
and is topped off with a 115 grain Speer Gold Dot
hollowpoint bullet.
This load does 1300 fps at the muzzle and generates about 431 ft-lbs.
Fired from the 18 1/2 inch cabine, the Gold Dot loads run 1750 fps.

A full lenght detailed range report can be found in the Febuary copy of Shooting Times magazine.

I hope we see a Leveraction chambered for the .327 too.

A.H

two-70 · 01-02-2008, 01:43 PM

sounds like a little screamer

ArkansasHunter · 01-02-2008, 02:25 PM

I might even be interested in one later on. I have yet to see and handle a
Ruger SP 101 revolver.
So I don't know how small they are or anything.

okami515 · 01-02-2008, 04:25 PM

they are a nice small frame revolver, have one in 32h&r and like it a lot. just wish they would put fully adj. sights on them instead of just side to side.

nathangdad · 01-02-2008, 05:08 PM

Ruger is especially aggressive in putting out new cartridges and new gun chamberings at this moment. Note the history of firearms is paved with good cartridges that just did not make it in the marketplace. This cartridge might gain in popularity or the chambering might quietly disappear from Ruger's catalog in a couple of years. It is the risk of buying into any new cartridge/gun combo. For what it's worth I think this is a good idea in a very crowded field of handgun cartridges.

billy · 01-02-2008, 05:12 PM

ive already got one in .357
would i buy another in a new caliber that is less powerful?
nope!

BattleRifleG3 · 01-02-2008, 05:51 PM

Yeah, I don't see the point of it either. Smaller diameter makes it less good for personal defense because it would penetrate farther and hit less hard. For hunting I don't see a niche that it fills. So that leaves target shooting at pistol ranges. I'm sure low recoil would ge good, but for a target only pistol I don't see what it has on the 22LR.

And this is from a guy who loves the idea of new cartridges.

nimdor666 · 08-23-2008, 02:14 AM

I went to Cabela's to get some 357 Mag ammo and picked up 327 by mistake. When I got home I loaded my super Blackhawk with about two of them, before I realized they were the wrong size. They will slide thriugh the chambers, but not the barrell. Since they serve no purpose or need I don't understand why they are even made. If I can find some poor sucker that bought one I will give him the shells out of pity. If you have one stock up on brass as in a year or so they will be collector's items at the gun shows. Hey I may just keep these for an investment. Oh well for those of you that enjoy the latest fad, have fun.

GlockMeister · 08-23-2008, 02:43 AM

Ruger makes the gun for the bullets and Federal makes the bullets for the gun. Only one's that makes either. Suppose to be close to .357 but without the recoil or the cost? Problem is, they could decide @ anytime down the road to stop making if not enough get bought, then what? Could always reload I suppose?

Be glad they slipped through the cylinder. Had they not, you just might have fired off a few and found out that way?

Handgunner101 · 08-23-2008, 02:59 AM

Sounds like a gun made for a guy like me, I used to run out and buy all the new stuff. That's why I have a single six in 32 H&R magnum in my gun cabinet. Love the gun and the round...problem is, it never became popular enough for the cost of the ammo to be reasonable. Of course I haven't checked in many years...maybe things have changed.

nathangdad · 08-23-2008, 03:57 AM

If you read some gun magazines from, say five or six years ago, you will find a host of cartridge introductions that had good points but did not make it in what is truly and over saturated marketplace.

It takes customers to keep a cartridge in production and this one may or may not make it.

So, the risk factor is that you could buy a new gun and then be scrambling for higher priced ammo components in a few years.

Personally, I don't see the ad/promotion campaign for this cartridge that will generate demand in the general marketplace. So, I would not put money into this gun but we are all different and this might be the way you wish to go. Good luck.

SwedeSteve · 08-23-2008, 10:37 AM

I've held one at the shop, and it's a nice feeling little pistol. I don't get the need for the new cartridge though.

mr. breeze · 08-27-2008, 06:44 PM

I had a .32 H&R mag. which now thanks to BCA (Bowen Classic Arms) is a .327 Fed mag. The cylinder for the H&R mag is within a few thou of the length of the SP101 cylinder in .357 mag. (I have both) so the rechamber is a "breeze". Unfortunately that is not true for the Single-Six in the .32 H&R. Oh, the Single-Six can be converted to the new Federal round, but needs both a new barrel and cylinder. Maybe the powers at Sturm/Ruger will get on the ball and offer the Single-Six in the new round soon, I'll be one of the first in line when and if they do.

IMHO, the mainest advantage of having the .327 is that it shoots 6 rather than 5 times.

For those interested:

+ C A T A L O G + (go to projects and scroll down to the article on the .327)

The New .327 Federal Magnum in Ruger?s SP101 Compact Six-Shot Revolver

Freedom Arms Model 97 & Single Action Service Custom Ruger Revolvers Chambered for the New .327 Federal Magnum

HEMI · 08-27-2008, 10:17 PM

yawn

DWFan · 08-28-2008, 01:55 AM

Is this thing destined to go the way of the .357 Maximum and the soon to be discontinued .480 Ruger? They've been hyping the .327 for over a year now while the Taurus Judge stole the show. Stay tuned folks!

HEMI · 08-28-2008, 02:24 AM

Judge, double yawn

Taurus Fan · 08-28-2008, 02:35 AM

So sad. It's a cute little cartridge that does well from short barrels and makes for an interesting small frame snubbie revolver. It deserves more attention. What's the difference between a .357 and a .327? .....The .327 gives A Whooooole lot better velocity from a 3" barrel with a tid-bit smaller bullet and a lot less recoil and muzzle flash. Needs to be looked at.

HEMI · 08-28-2008, 03:05 AM

The 357 in the wheel gun has proved itself,no other cartridge has been trusted as a sd weapon more. How is the 327 going to take away anyone from buying a 357?
Only a couple of guns available expensive ammo thats hard to find, not proven on the street. It offers nothing new.

TXplt · 08-28-2008, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HEMI

Judge, double yawn

Mine aren't so boring...

Judges can be quite versitile pistols; albeit a bit bulky. Anyway, if you don' like the 410 they're certainly accurate enough for a 3" self defense pistol with the .45 Colts. Fun to bust clays with at times too.

The advantage of the 327 is an extra shot in a snubby (without increasing the size). The drawback might be longevity if it doesn't catch on.

People scoffed at the .40 too.

billy · 08-28-2008, 07:18 AM

come to think of it.
i didnt buy a .40 either...

01-02-2008, 01:39 PM	#1
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 17,215	Ruger's New .327 Mag. Ruger's SP 101 has got a new chambering named the .327 Fedral Magnum !!! The case of this new cartridge is 1/8 "(1.200 ) longer than the .32 H&R magnum. The case walls are beefed up for greater strenght. Rugers engineer wanted the case to be able to handle up to 45,000 psi of pressure. Federal and Speer have planed 3 different loadings for this new cartridge. The first loading will be packaged in Federal boxes and has an 85-grain federal Hydra-Shock bullet and muzzle velocity of 1330 fps in the 3" 1/16 inch barrel of the SP 101. This loading was designed to be a low recoil round and will generate just 334 ft-lbs of energy. It was also tested in an 18 1/2 inch barrel and produced a muzzle velocity of some 1830 fps. The 2nd. loading that will be packaged under the American Eagle box is a 100-grain Federal softpoint. This round will go 1400 fps at the muzzle and produces about 435 ft-lbs of energy. Out of the same carbine 2010 fps. The 3rd. loading is to be packaged in Speer boxes and is topped off with a 115 grain Speer Gold Dot hollowpoint bullet. This load does 1300 fps at the muzzle and generates about 431 ft-lbs. Fired from the 18 1/2 inch cabine, the Gold Dot loads run 1750 fps. A full lenght detailed range report can be found in the Febuary copy of Shooting Times magazine. I hope we see a Leveraction chambered for the .327 too. A.H __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER Last edited by ArkansasHunter; 01-02-2008 at 05:11 PM.

01-02-2008, 01:43 PM	#2
two-70 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ponca city, oklahoma Posts: 1,783	sounds like a little screamer __________________ What Would Jesus Do ????? Just Ask Him.

01-02-2008, 02:25 PM	#3
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 17,215	I might even be interested in one later on. I have yet to see and handle a Ruger SP 101 revolver. So I don't know how small they are or anything. __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER

01-02-2008, 05:08 PM	#5
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,170	Risk with new cartridges Ruger is especially aggressive in putting out new cartridges and new gun chamberings at this moment. Note the history of firearms is paved with good cartridges that just did not make it in the marketplace. This cartridge might gain in popularity or the chambering might quietly disappear from Ruger's catalog in a couple of years. It is the risk of buying into any new cartridge/gun combo. For what it's worth I think this is a good idea in a very crowded field of handgun cartridges. Last edited by nathangdad; 01-02-2008 at 05:11 PM.

01-02-2008, 05:12 PM	#6
billy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 19,730 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 161	ive already got one in .357 would i buy another in a new caliber that is less powerful? nope! __________________

01-02-2008, 04:25 PM	#4
okami515 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 262	they are a nice small frame revolver, have one in 32h&r and like it a lot. just wish they would put fully adj. sights on them instead of just side to side.

01-02-2008, 05:51 PM	#7
BattleRifleG3 Retired Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,681 Images: 13	Yeah, I don't see the point of it either. Smaller diameter makes it less good for personal defense because it would penetrate farther and hit less hard. For hunting I don't see a niche that it fills. So that leaves target shooting at pistol ranges. I'm sure low recoil would ge good, but for a target only pistol I don't see what it has on the 22LR. And this is from a guy who loves the idea of new cartridges. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-23-2008, 02:14 AM	#8
nimdor666 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1	327 Mag I went to Cabela's to get some 357 Mag ammo and picked up 327 by mistake. When I got home I loaded my super Blackhawk with about two of them, before I realized they were the wrong size. They will slide thriugh the chambers, but not the barrell. Since they serve no purpose or need I don't understand why they are even made. If I can find some poor sucker that bought one I will give him the shells out of pity. If you have one stock up on brass as in a year or so they will be collector's items at the gun shows. Hey I may just keep these for an investment. Oh well for those of you that enjoy the latest fad, have fun.

08-23-2008, 02:43 AM	#9
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,676	Ruger makes the gun for the bullets and Federal makes the bullets for the gun. Only one's that makes either. Suppose to be close to .357 but without the recoil or the cost? Problem is, they could decide @ anytime down the road to stop making if not enough get bought, then what? Could always reload I suppose? Be glad they slipped through the cylinder. Had they not, you just might have fired off a few and found out that way? __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke" Last edited by GlockMeister; 08-23-2008 at 02:57 AM.

08-23-2008, 02:59 AM	#10
Handgunner101 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mi Posts: 115	Sounds like a gun made for a guy like me, I used to run out and buy all the new stuff. That's why I have a single six in 32 H&R magnum in my gun cabinet. Love the gun and the round...problem is, it never became popular enough for the cost of the ammo to be reasonable. Of course I haven't checked in many years...maybe things have changed.

08-23-2008, 03:57 AM	#11
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,170	Risk factor If you read some gun magazines from, say five or six years ago, you will find a host of cartridge introductions that had good points but did not make it in what is truly and over saturated marketplace. It takes customers to keep a cartridge in production and this one may or may not make it. So, the risk factor is that you could buy a new gun and then be scrambling for higher priced ammo components in a few years. Personally, I don't see the ad/promotion campaign for this cartridge that will generate demand in the general marketplace. So, I would not put money into this gun but we are all different and this might be the way you wish to go. Good luck.

08-23-2008, 10:37 AM	#12
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,571 Images: 1	I've held one at the shop, and it's a nice feeling little pistol. I don't get the need for the new cartridge though. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

08-27-2008, 06:44 PM	#13
mr. breeze Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: N. GA Posts: 4	I had a .32 H&R mag. which now thanks to BCA (Bowen Classic Arms) is a .327 Fed mag. The cylinder for the H&R mag is within a few thou of the length of the SP101 cylinder in .357 mag. (I have both) so the rechamber is a "breeze". Unfortunately that is not true for the Single-Six in the .32 H&R. Oh, the Single-Six can be converted to the new Federal round, but needs both a new barrel and cylinder. Maybe the powers at Sturm/Ruger will get on the ball and offer the Single-Six in the new round soon, I'll be one of the first in line when and if they do. IMHO, the mainest advantage of having the .327 is that it shoots 6 rather than 5 times. For those interested: + C A T A L O G + (go to projects and scroll down to the article on the .327) The New .327 Federal Magnum in Ruger?s SP101 Compact Six-Shot Revolver Freedom Arms Model 97 & Single Action Service Custom Ruger Revolvers Chambered for the New .327 Federal Magnum

08-27-2008, 10:17 PM	#14
HEMI Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,180	yawn

08-28-2008, 01:55 AM	#15
DWFan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N. Texas Posts: 1,537 Blog Entries: 2	Is this thing destined to go the way of the .357 Maximum and the soon to be discontinued .480 Ruger? They've been hyping the .327 for over a year now while the Taurus Judge stole the show. Stay tuned folks!

08-28-2008, 02:24 AM	#16
HEMI Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,180	Judge, double yawn

08-28-2008, 02:35 AM	#17
Taurus Fan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: COBRA COMMAND HEADQUARTERS Posts: 1,540	So sad. It's a cute little cartridge that does well from short barrels and makes for an interesting small frame snubbie revolver. It deserves more attention. What's the difference between a .357 and a .327? .....The .327 gives A Whooooole lot better velocity from a 3" barrel with a tid-bit smaller bullet and a lot less recoil and muzzle flash. Needs to be looked at.

08-28-2008, 03:05 AM	#18
HEMI Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,180	The 357 in the wheel gun has proved itself,no other cartridge has been trusted as a sd weapon more. How is the 327 going to take away anyone from buying a 357? Only a couple of guns available expensive ammo thats hard to find, not proven on the street. It offers nothing new.

08-28-2008, 07:18 AM	#20
billy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 19,730 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 161	come to think of it. i didnt buy a .40 either... __________________