MkIII target with a BSA red dot?

djchan · 04-06-2009, 03:55 PM

Has anybody added an inexpensive BSA red dot scope to their MKIII? The price looks intoxicating and since my new target model came with the weaver mounting plate - well, it's almost like they're begging me to put something on it. I'd also be interested to see the difference in my patterns with and without the scope.

Thanks
Dean

ZOBO · 04-06-2009, 11:45 PM

For lots of reasons I avoid BSA like the bird flu. "Intoxicating" may not be the descriptive word that will come to mind in the event you make such a purchase.
For around $60.00-$70.00 depending on the homework that's done on pricing, you can purchase a Millet Red Dot which will provide very reliable service with progressive intensity from 1-11
I suggest putting on a Red Dot which is more worthy of your Ruger MKIII.
Though some may say BSA is OK it's not been my expreince.
JMHO!
...and yes my groups got very respectable with the "dot" compared to without.
My eyes welcomed the dot.

ZOBO

SwedeSteve · 04-07-2009, 12:01 AM

This is the 7th time I have read that the Millet is better. I don't have either yet, but thought I'd add this info !!

jrswanson1 · 04-07-2009, 10:59 AM

Not a big fan of BSA red dots. I got a Tasco which survived 8 rounds of magnum buckshot out of my 870. The BSA lasted 2 rounds of bird shot before the zero went crazy, then two more and it fell off my shotgun. The Tasco cost me $30, same as the BSA. I put the BSA on a 10/22, it seems happier there.

Jim

Clem321 · 04-07-2009, 01:02 PM

I got an inexpensive BSA red dot to see if I liked the idea of a red dot scope. I decided I did, but not the BSA. I put a very nice Ultradot LT on my MK II678GC. I save the BSA for experimentation. It hasn't died yet.

madcratebuilder · 04-08-2009, 10:06 AM

Nice pistol ZOBO!

IMO these pistols are made for red dots or holo's. No matter what I haul to the range, my 22/45 goes to. Plus rimfire is about all I shoot in the winter and most of the spring due to crappy weather.

ZOBO · 04-08-2009, 12:55 PM

Thanks MCB and backatcha on your pistol.
My MKII was a safe queen foe many years due to my failing old eyes. Then one day a buddy had me shoot his MKII with a RD and it was like discovering pistol shooting. Liked it so much I got the MKII a friend which is pictured above.
Some bulk ammo, an Ultimate Clip Loader (misnomer) and some good company and it just "don't" get any better.

ZOBO

djchan · 04-08-2009, 01:28 PM

OK - consensus is don't buy the BSA. I went online and was unable to find a Millet red dot for under $100 so I looked at other red dot systems. Anyone have experience with A1Optics? It seems to have a few advantages over the other less expensive models - larger diameter 42mm vs 30mm, aluminum tube, metal threads instead of plastic, etc. Can also buy a model with 1or 2X capability for $18 more.

jrswanson1 · 04-08-2009, 02:55 PM

I have no problems recommending Tasco red dots now. If it can stand up to magnum buck shot, it should do well for your .22 and it was $30.

Jim

Deep13 · 04-08-2009, 03:22 PM

ZOBO:

Nice pistol! I have the Mk. III "Hunter" Model. It has the same length barrel, but it is fluted rather than flattened on the sides. I put Hogue rubber grips on it to replace the ambidexterous hard wood panels. (I don't want to damage them.) Haven't tried a red dot on it yet.

GlockMeister · 04-08-2009, 03:29 PM

I've had/used a BSA red dot for years. Never had a problem with it. I have two, a 30mm and a 50mm. Never used the 50mm simply because I didn't want it. I ran across a deal for both, new, for $25 bucks each. The 50mm is and was somewhat large for my liking as well.

If you're on a budget, go ahead and get a BSA. If you can afford a little more, I suggest either of these, over a BSA or Millett...

Reflex Sights, By A T N at Sportsman's Guide

OR

Digital Sights, By A T N at Sportsman's Guide

Deep13 · 04-08-2009, 03:40 PM

I find the dot in those tubeless models gets washed out in daylight, though they are fine for the indoor range.

ZOBO · 04-08-2009, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep13

ZOBO:

Nice pistol! I have the Mk. III "Hunter" Model. It has the same length barrel, but it is fluted rather than flattened on the sides. I put Hogue rubber grips on it to replace the ambidexterous hard wood panels. (I don't want to damage them.) Haven't tried a red dot on it yet.

Thanks, Deep!
I was torn between the Hunter and the Slabby. The Slab became available first so I grabbed it. The Hunter is sweet. You'll love the Hogue grips. I've since put the stock grips in the safe and have gone with the Hogues on both my MKII and III....I even put them on my Single Six. They just feel better to me.

ZOBO

PurcHawk · 04-09-2009, 10:20 PM

I use a big 42mm Tasco red dot that also has green recticles. The big field of vision is a help for old eyes to acquire the targets. Unless you are a really big-time shooter or hunting Taliban, I don't see any reason to spend hundreds on a red-dot sight. Mine cost less than $50 and is doing great service.

One

PurcHawk · 04-09-2009, 10:22 PM

More on Ruger .22 pistols: one of the best mods is a set of Accuracy grips. They are unusual in that not only is there the traditional thumb rest, but the right side of the grip has a bulked out guide slot for your trigger finger, which puts exactly the right part of your digit on the trigger. They come in several sizes according to the length of your fingers.

04-06-2009, 03:55 PM	#1
djchan Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8	MkIII target with a BSA red dot? Has anybody added an inexpensive BSA red dot scope to their MKIII? The price looks intoxicating and since my new target model came with the weaver mounting plate - well, it's almost like they're begging me to put something on it. I'd also be interested to see the difference in my patterns with and without the scope. Thanks Dean

04-06-2009, 11:45 PM	#2
ZOBO Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 291	For lots of reasons I avoid BSA like the bird flu. "Intoxicating" may not be the descriptive word that will come to mind in the event you make such a purchase. For around $60.00-$70.00 depending on the homework that's done on pricing, you can purchase a Millet Red Dot which will provide very reliable service with progressive intensity from 1-11 I suggest putting on a Red Dot which is more worthy of your Ruger MKIII. Though some may say BSA is OK it's not been my expreince. JMHO! ...and yes my groups got very respectable with the "dot" compared to without. My eyes welcomed the dot. ZOBO Last edited by ZOBO; 04-06-2009 at 11:47 PM.

04-07-2009, 12:01 AM	#3
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,576 Images: 1	This is the 7th time I have read that the Millet is better. I don't have either yet, but thought I'd add this info !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

04-08-2009, 10:06 AM	#6
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 2,395 Images: 3	Nice pistol ZOBO! IMO these pistols are made for red dots or holo's. No matter what I haul to the range, my 22/45 goes to. Plus rimfire is about all I shoot in the winter and most of the spring due to crappy weather. __________________ Make peace with your past so it won't screw up the present.

04-08-2009, 03:22 PM	#10
Deep13 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 596	ZOBO: Nice pistol! I have the Mk. III "Hunter" Model. It has the same length barrel, but it is fluted rather than flattened on the sides. I put Hogue rubber grips on it to replace the ambidexterous hard wood panels. (I don't want to damage them.) Haven't tried a red dot on it yet. __________________ That which can be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

04-07-2009, 10:59 AM	#4
jrswanson1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,093	Not a big fan of BSA red dots. I got a Tasco which survived 8 rounds of magnum buckshot out of my 870. The BSA lasted 2 rounds of bird shot before the zero went crazy, then two more and it fell off my shotgun. The Tasco cost me $30, same as the BSA. I put the BSA on a 10/22, it seems happier there. Jim

04-07-2009, 01:02 PM	#5
Clem321 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 142	I got an inexpensive BSA red dot to see if I liked the idea of a red dot scope. I decided I did, but not the BSA. I put a very nice Ultradot LT on my MK II678GC. I save the BSA for experimentation. It hasn't died yet.

04-08-2009, 12:55 PM	#7
ZOBO Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 291	Thanks MCB and backatcha on your pistol. My MKII was a safe queen foe many years due to my failing old eyes. Then one day a buddy had me shoot his MKII with a RD and it was like discovering pistol shooting. Liked it so much I got the MKII a friend which is pictured above. Some bulk ammo, an Ultimate Clip Loader (misnomer) and some good company and it just "don't" get any better. ZOBO

04-08-2009, 01:28 PM	#8
djchan Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8	OK - consensus is don't buy the BSA. I went online and was unable to find a Millet red dot for under $100 so I looked at other red dot systems. Anyone have experience with A1Optics? It seems to have a few advantages over the other less expensive models - larger diameter 42mm vs 30mm, aluminum tube, metal threads instead of plastic, etc. Can also buy a model with 1or 2X capability for $18 more.

04-08-2009, 02:55 PM	#9
jrswanson1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,093	I have no problems recommending Tasco red dots now. If it can stand up to magnum buck shot, it should do well for your .22 and it was $30. Jim

04-08-2009, 03:29 PM	#11
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,676	I've had/used a BSA red dot for years. Never had a problem with it. I have two, a 30mm and a 50mm. Never used the 50mm simply because I didn't want it. I ran across a deal for both, new, for $25 bucks each. The 50mm is and was somewhat large for my liking as well. If you're on a budget, go ahead and get a BSA. If you can afford a little more, I suggest either of these, over a BSA or Millett... Reflex Sights, By A T N at Sportsman's Guide OR Digital Sights, By A T N at Sportsman's Guide __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

04-08-2009, 03:40 PM	#12
Deep13 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 596	I find the dot in those tubeless models gets washed out in daylight, though they are fine for the indoor range. __________________ That which can be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

04-09-2009, 10:20 PM	#14
PurcHawk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3	I use a big 42mm Tasco red dot that also has green recticles. The big field of vision is a help for old eyes to acquire the targets. Unless you are a really big-time shooter or hunting Taliban, I don't see any reason to spend hundreds on a red-dot sight. Mine cost less than $50 and is doing great service. One

04-09-2009, 10:22 PM	#15
PurcHawk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3	More on Ruger .22 pistols: one of the best mods is a set of Accuracy grips. They are unusual in that not only is there the traditional thumb rest, but the right side of the grip has a bulked out guide slot for your trigger finger, which puts exactly the right part of your digit on the trigger. They come in several sizes according to the length of your fingers.