SP101 Ammunition

Tigercat200 · 06-15-2009, 10:45 PM

I know I'm opening up a can of worms here but, in a 2-1/4" SP101 used for home defense and carry.................

Would you use .......... 145gr Silvertips or 110gr WWB hollow points? Why?

I know there is a myriad of choices out there but, please stick with the choices. There is a method to my madness.

Thanks.

Mooseman684 · 06-15-2009, 10:58 PM

The first three rounds the 110 gr....The last 3 rounds the 145 Silvertips...
I have my reasons...

Rich

jrswanson1 · 06-16-2009, 09:31 AM

Are you using .357 Mag or .38 Special or .38 +p ?

Jim

Tigercat200 · 06-16-2009, 01:26 PM

.357 Mag.

jrswanson1 · 06-16-2009, 03:20 PM

I'd go with the Silvertips, as they open up well and look cool.

Jim

nathangdad · 06-16-2009, 03:31 PM

You should experiment with various loads finding out what you can handle best thus hitting more accurately on initial and successive shots.

Remember, a self defense situation is very likely to happen quickly and at close range.

What is right for one of us may not be right for another.

Although it does not directly relate to your post, many years ago I had a Ruger .44 mag single action. I experimented with reloading until I found my "sweet spot" in between the .44 special and .44 mag loadings. It worked for me in terms of accuracy and recoil. It most likely would not be right for the next person.

Midas · 06-16-2009, 05:43 PM

I would personally use the heavier weight bullet for personal defense.

GlockMeister · 06-16-2009, 06:14 PM

The only draw back, if there is any, is when using the more powerful or most powerful, in some states and or with some DA's and lawyers, they'll try and use the fact you used the most powerful and meant to kill and or mame.

Putting a few of the lighter loads/rounds in first, and using them first could show your intent was simply to defend yourself, loved ones and or home.

I believe why Mooseman suggested what he did?

And to be honest, 110gr sure as hell isn't going to tickle. They gonna know they got shot and will probably not advance. unless of course they're on crack or whacked on some other drug? But then you still have 1 or 2 more of those 110grs. and then 3 or 4 of those 145grainers or 158grainers, whichever?

Then, there is always the, hey, I had to load the gun quick and I grabbed the first thing I saw. It just so happened it turned out to be the more powerful ones. Hey, I mean, what can I say, my home was being broken into. I didn't think, I just reacted.

Maybe had he/they not broken into my home they wouldn't have gotten shot? Why is it they break the law, I'm in my home and have to defend myself and I'm now having to justify what I did with what I did?

Personally, as my original signature use to say, I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6...

Tigercat200 · 06-16-2009, 10:29 PM

OK, guys, I've got what I wanted and we're all on the same track. I won't use handloads for defense because I don't want to give the DA any kind of toe hold. Thanks for your thoughtful replies.

littleman · 06-17-2009, 07:20 PM

I use 125 grain 357 JHP's in my 357. They are supposed to have the maximum "stopping power" of the 357 loads, in fact they're rated at 96% one shot stops, out of a large base of shootings. They are not that bad on recoil in the SP 101.
The man is right; don't use handloads for SD, it's great fodder for the prosecuter's case. In fact, a gun's name can get you in trouble; like Python, Cobra etc. Makes me wonder if I should use my Taurus "Judge" for SD!

cooker300 · 07-04-2009, 07:08 PM

in mine i have the hornady leverevolution 140gr. i figure if it will drop a whitetail from 50 yds in his track it will stop anybody on anything that comes in to my home.

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DaTeacha · 07-06-2009, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigercat200

OK, guys, I've got what I wanted and we're all on the same track. I won't use handloads for defense because I don't want to give the DA any kind of toe hold. Thanks for your thoughtful replies.

BINGO! Use factory ammo, preferably something that does not have a super aggressive name like BadGuy Butcher or something. I know the hollow points and such will work better, but if you are in a litigious municipality, your best bet is to use the kinds of loads the local LE uses. It is probably serious stuff but not something that will give a bloodsucking lawyer/vampire or a career chasing Public Defender a toothhold.

Deep13 · 07-07-2009, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaTeacha

BINGO! Use factory ammo, preferably something that does not have a super aggressive name like BadGuy Butcher or something. I know the hollow points and such will work better, but if you are in a litigious municipality, your best bet is to use the kinds of loads the local LE uses. It is probably serious stuff but not something that will give a bloodsucking lawyer/vampire or a career chasing Public Defender a toothhold.

While I agree with the suggestion to use what the cops use. Around here that is Fed. Hydroshock. Still, I want to point out that District/Prosecuting/State's Attorneys prosecute people for gun "crimes" and not public defenders. P.D.s represent the defense.

06-15-2009, 10:45 PM	#1
Tigercat200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Middle of the USA Posts: 403	SP101 Ammunition I know I'm opening up a can of worms here but, in a 2-1/4" SP101 used for home defense and carry................. Would you use .......... 145gr Silvertips or 110gr WWB hollow points? Why? I know there is a myriad of choices out there but, please stick with the choices. There is a method to my madness. Thanks. __________________ Bob Beware the fury of a patient man......John Dryden

06-15-2009, 10:58 PM	#2
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,177	The first three rounds the 110 gr....The last 3 rounds the 145 Silvertips... I have my reasons... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

06-16-2009, 01:26 PM	#4
Tigercat200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Middle of the USA Posts: 403	.357 Mag. __________________ Bob Beware the fury of a patient man......John Dryden

06-16-2009, 03:31 PM	#6
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,087	Well, there is a certain way to look at it You should experiment with various loads finding out what you can handle best thus hitting more accurately on initial and successive shots. Remember, a self defense situation is very likely to happen quickly and at close range. What is right for one of us may not be right for another. Although it does not directly relate to your post, many years ago I had a Ruger .44 mag single action. I experimented with reloading until I found my "sweet spot" in between the .44 special and .44 mag loadings. It worked for me in terms of accuracy and recoil. It most likely would not be right for the next person.

06-16-2009, 05:43 PM	#7
Midas Chief Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 3,524 Blog Entries: 6	I would personally use the heavier weight bullet for personal defense. __________________ The Second Amendment: America's Original Homeland Security. NRA Life Member

06-16-2009, 09:31 AM	#3
jrswanson1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,057	Are you using .357 Mag or .38 Special or .38 +p ? Jim

06-16-2009, 03:20 PM	#5
jrswanson1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,057	I'd go with the Silvertips, as they open up well and look cool. Jim

06-16-2009, 06:14 PM	#8
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,578	The only draw back, if there is any, is when using the more powerful or most powerful, in some states and or with some DA's and lawyers, they'll try and use the fact you used the most powerful and meant to kill and or mame. Putting a few of the lighter loads/rounds in first, and using them first could show your intent was simply to defend yourself, loved ones and or home. I believe why Mooseman suggested what he did? And to be honest, 110gr sure as hell isn't going to tickle. They gonna know they got shot and will probably not advance. unless of course they're on crack or whacked on some other drug? But then you still have 1 or 2 more of those 110grs. and then 3 or 4 of those 145grainers or 158grainers, whichever? Then, there is always the, hey, I had to load the gun quick and I grabbed the first thing I saw. It just so happened it turned out to be the more powerful ones. Hey, I mean, what can I say, my home was being broken into. I didn't think, I just reacted. Maybe had he/they not broken into my home they wouldn't have gotten shot? Why is it they break the law, I'm in my home and have to defend myself and I'm now having to justify what I did with what I did? Personally, as my original signature use to say, I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6... __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

06-16-2009, 10:29 PM	#9
Tigercat200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Middle of the USA Posts: 403	OK, guys, I've got what I wanted and we're all on the same track. I won't use handloads for defense because I don't want to give the DA any kind of toe hold. Thanks for your thoughtful replies. __________________ Bob Beware the fury of a patient man......John Dryden

06-17-2009, 07:20 PM	#10
littleman Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 125	I use 125 grain 357 JHP's in my 357. They are supposed to have the maximum "stopping power" of the 357 loads, in fact they're rated at 96% one shot stops, out of a large base of shootings. They are not that bad on recoil in the SP 101. The man is right; don't use handloads for SD, it's great fodder for the prosecuter's case. In fact, a gun's name can get you in trouble; like Python, Cobra etc. Makes me wonder if I should use my Taurus "Judge" for SD!

07-04-2009, 07:08 PM	#11
cooker300 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In the PA woods Posts: 128	in mine i have the hornady leverevolution 140gr. i figure if it will drop a whitetail from 50 yds in his track it will stop anybody on anything that comes in to my home. __________________ one shot one kill, no fears no regrets

07-05-2009, 02:48 AM	#12
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