Stoeger 2000?

Pumpkinheaver · 01-02-2005, 08:28 PM

What do you all think of this shotgun? I bought one tonight for rabbit, dove and turkey hunting.

NRAJOE · 01-02-2005, 08:55 PM

Looks nice!

http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/index.tpl

Know a guy at work that bought a Stoeger over/under...he likes it...don't know anyone with the model you got...Stoegers are made in Turkey, then imported by Stoeger I believe...:right:

jerry · 01-03-2005, 05:31 AM

Nice gun. Licensed by Benelli using thier inertia design. Some parts somewhat different than say a Montefeltro.

3" loads are a little zesty on recoil. Should be a good gun. I hesitated on buying one, wasn't sure about parts issues 15~20 years down the road. I'm overly paranoid about such things.

Big Dog · 01-03-2005, 07:52 AM

That "Timber HD" would work real nice in the north Florida woods! Price isn't bad, for a nice auto.

Dennis · 01-10-2005, 05:15 AM

i wish I knew more about the "inertia design"
it sounds suspiciously like a browning "long recoil"
like an auto five

jerry · 01-10-2005, 06:31 AM

Hi Dennis,
The Benelli is a completely different design. Only similarities are they are recoil op.

High Tech Simplicity
Inertia is the tendency of an object at rest to remain at rest, and it's the key to the Benelli system. When a gun is fired, all of the fixed parts immediately begin moving rearward. But if a part is not fixed, it initially stays put. Think of a handkerchief draped over the gun. If you fire, it will seem to move forward. Actually, it keeps its position while the rest of the gun moves to the rear. This is what happens to the bolt body when you fire a Benelli; it briefly holds its position as the rest of the gun starts to move backwards. The difference in motion between the bolt body and the rest of the gun compresses a short, very stiff inertia spring between the bolt body and bolt head.

As the shot charge or slug leaves the barrel and rearward force on the gun diminishes, the spring vigorously rebounds, throwing the bolt body rearward with enough force to unlock the rotating bolt head, eject the spent shell and recock the hammer. The recoil spring then returns the bolt assembly forward, lifting and chambering the next shell and then locks the rotating bolt head into the barrel extension. Because the key to this operation is the predictable energy of the inertia spring, the Benelli system is adaptable to almost any sort of ammunition. About the only way to stop a Benelli from cycling is to put the butt against a brickwall; the shotgun must be free to move backward slightly to operate.

Simpler is always better, and the Benelli Inertia System proves it.

Cycling is faster due to a reduced moving mass of parts
No complicated linkages or o-rings to malfunction
Better gun balance without heavy weights and pistons in the fore-end
Rotating bolt head features oversized lugs for solid, steel-to-steel lock-up with the barrel extension
Stays cleaner due to the hard-chromed locking head which prevents powder residue build-up on the bolt assembly
Fouling and gases are expelled out the barrel, not through the operating system, therefore, the action remains cleaner and more reliable in wet and cold weather conditions

Cycle of Operation

1. Chambering
As the bolt assembly moves into battery, the locking head pin moves along a curved track in the bolt body to rotate the steel bolt head into engagement with the steel barrel extension. The cartridge drop lever is down, its red dot indicating the gun is cocked.

http://www.benelliusa.com/innovations/inertia.tpl

Cartridge drop Lever (Works three ways

1. Pulling back on the operating bolt handle and pressing the cartridge drop lever locks the bolt to the rear.
2. With bolt forward, pressing it releases a shell on to carrier.
3. Visibility of the red dot indicates the hammer is cocked.

2. Firing
When the trigger is pulled, every part of the shotgun except the bolt body moves rearward. The curved track in the bolt body, which is moving forward relative to the rest of the gun, presses against the locking head pin, turning the bolt head even tighter into the barrel extension. At the same time, the inertia spring is compressed between bolt head and body. The cartridge drop lever moves up, allowing a shell to move from the magazine to the carrier.

3. Recoil
Near the end of the recoil cycle, chamber pressure drops to a safe level and the gun's rearward motion slows. The heavy inertia spring then thrusts the bolt assembly rearward, unlocking the rotating bolt head, extracting the spent shell from the chamber and pulling it against the ejector.

Shell is released from the magazine onto the carrier in preparation for loading.

4. Ejection
As the empty shell exits the receiver, the energy of the moving bolt assembly recocks the hammer, lifts the oncoming shell into position and compresses the recoil spring in the buttstock. The recoil spring then thrusts the bolt assembly forward, chambering a fresh cartridge. The gun is ready to fire again…in a fraction of a second!

BattleRifleG3 · 01-13-2005, 11:02 AM

How much it cost? Might have to consider one.

Pumpkinheaver · 01-23-2005, 10:47 AM

I got mine(synthetic stock/matte black) for $350 + tax. The walnut stocked version was about $70 more. I wish they would have had a camo version in stock but they didn't and I'm impatient about such things. I've put around 10 boxes through it so far and it cycles every thing except some really light skeet loads(7/8 oz shot at 1200fps) I loaded for a friend of mine.

Pumpkinheaver · 01-23-2005, 10:50 AM

By the way Stoeger is owned by benelli/beretta. In this months issue of field and stream there is a short piece on this shotgun and in there it states that the return for service rates on these are actually lower than the benellis.

01-02-2005, 08:28 PM	#1
Pumpkinheaver Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,297 Trader Rating: (0)	Stoeger 2000? What do you all think of this shotgun? I bought one tonight for rabbit, dove and turkey hunting. __________________ Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!

01-02-2005, 08:55 PM	#2
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 18,992 Trader Rating: (0)	Looks nice! http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/index.tpl Know a guy at work that bought a Stoeger over/under...he likes it...don't know anyone with the model you got...Stoegers are made in Turkey, then imported by Stoeger I believe...:right: __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

01-03-2005, 05:31 AM	#3
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,757 Trader Rating: (0)	Nice gun. Licensed by Benelli using thier inertia design. Some parts somewhat different than say a Montefeltro. 3" loads are a little zesty on recoil. Should be a good gun. I hesitated on buying one, wasn't sure about parts issues 15~20 years down the road. I'm overly paranoid about such things. __________________

01-03-2005, 07:52 AM	#4
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,020 Trader Rating: (0)	That "Timber HD" would work real nice in the north Florida woods! Price isn't bad, for a nice auto. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

01-10-2005, 05:15 AM	#5
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,874 Trader Rating: (0)	i wish I knew more about the "inertia design" it sounds suspiciously like a browning "long recoil" like an auto five __________________ Submitted with respect to all

01-10-2005, 06:31 AM	#6
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,757 Trader Rating: (0)	Hi Dennis, The Benelli is a completely different design. Only similarities are they are recoil op. High Tech Simplicity Inertia is the tendency of an object at rest to remain at rest, and it's the key to the Benelli system. When a gun is fired, all of the fixed parts immediately begin moving rearward. But if a part is not fixed, it initially stays put. Think of a handkerchief draped over the gun. If you fire, it will seem to move forward. Actually, it keeps its position while the rest of the gun moves to the rear. This is what happens to the bolt body when you fire a Benelli; it briefly holds its position as the rest of the gun starts to move backwards. The difference in motion between the bolt body and the rest of the gun compresses a short, very stiff inertia spring between the bolt body and bolt head. As the shot charge or slug leaves the barrel and rearward force on the gun diminishes, the spring vigorously rebounds, throwing the bolt body rearward with enough force to unlock the rotating bolt head, eject the spent shell and recock the hammer. The recoil spring then returns the bolt assembly forward, lifting and chambering the next shell and then locks the rotating bolt head into the barrel extension. Because the key to this operation is the predictable energy of the inertia spring, the Benelli system is adaptable to almost any sort of ammunition. About the only way to stop a Benelli from cycling is to put the butt against a brickwall; the shotgun must be free to move backward slightly to operate. Simpler is always better, and the Benelli Inertia System proves it. Cycling is faster due to a reduced moving mass of parts No complicated linkages or o-rings to malfunction Better gun balance without heavy weights and pistons in the fore-end Rotating bolt head features oversized lugs for solid, steel-to-steel lock-up with the barrel extension Stays cleaner due to the hard-chromed locking head which prevents powder residue build-up on the bolt assembly Fouling and gases are expelled out the barrel, not through the operating system, therefore, the action remains cleaner and more reliable in wet and cold weather conditions Cycle of Operation 1. Chambering As the bolt assembly moves into battery, the locking head pin moves along a curved track in the bolt body to rotate the steel bolt head into engagement with the steel barrel extension. The cartridge drop lever is down, its red dot indicating the gun is cocked. http://www.benelliusa.com/innovations/inertia.tpl Cartridge drop Lever (Works three ways 1. Pulling back on the operating bolt handle and pressing the cartridge drop lever locks the bolt to the rear. 2. With bolt forward, pressing it releases a shell on to carrier. 3. Visibility of the red dot indicates the hammer is cocked. 2. Firing When the trigger is pulled, every part of the shotgun except the bolt body moves rearward. The curved track in the bolt body, which is moving forward relative to the rest of the gun, presses against the locking head pin, turning the bolt head even tighter into the barrel extension. At the same time, the inertia spring is compressed between bolt head and body. The cartridge drop lever moves up, allowing a shell to move from the magazine to the carrier. 3. Recoil Near the end of the recoil cycle, chamber pressure drops to a safe level and the gun's rearward motion slows. The heavy inertia spring then thrusts the bolt assembly rearward, unlocking the rotating bolt head, extracting the spent shell from the chamber and pulling it against the ejector. Shell is released from the magazine onto the carrier in preparation for loading. 4. Ejection As the empty shell exits the receiver, the energy of the moving bolt assembly recocks the hammer, lifts the oncoming shell into position and compresses the recoil spring in the buttstock. The recoil spring then thrusts the bolt assembly forward, chambering a fresh cartridge. The gun is ready to fire again…in a fraction of a second! __________________

01-13-2005, 11:02 AM	#7
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	How much it cost? Might have to consider one. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

01-23-2005, 10:47 AM	#8
Pumpkinheaver Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,297 Trader Rating: (0)	I got mine(synthetic stock/matte black) for $350 + tax. The walnut stocked version was about $70 more. I wish they would have had a camo version in stock but they didn't and I'm impatient about such things. I've put around 10 boxes through it so far and it cycles every thing except some really light skeet loads(7/8 oz shot at 1200fps) I loaded for a friend of mine. __________________ Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!

01-23-2005, 10:50 AM	#9
Pumpkinheaver Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,297 Trader Rating: (0)	By the way Stoeger is owned by benelli/beretta. In this months issue of field and stream there is a short piece on this shotgun and in there it states that the return for service rates on these are actually lower than the benellis. __________________ Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!