Norinco 12 Gauge - Game loads won't cycle

JohnRaven.exe · 11-16-2007, 08:40 PM

I haave a Norinco 12 gauge (Ithica 37 clone)

The first time I went shooting with it, I had a VERY hard time with the game loads. They would not eject without some serious force of the pump arm. The Slugs & Buckshot I put through it cycled without a problem... Recently I noticed these 'markings' on the shells...

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What part of the gun is causing this and what can I do to fix it?

JohnRaven.exe · 11-21-2007, 10:57 PM

Bueller? Bueller?

Mooseman684 · 11-21-2007, 11:18 PM

Open the action and run your finger around the chamber and see if you feel a burr...about 3/8 inch to 1/2 inch in from the end of the chamber.
Rich

JohnRaven.exe · 11-22-2007, 12:37 AM

Nope! nothing there... shells load and eject just fine UN-FIRED... when I put them in by hand its really smooth.... Hmm.

Mooseman684 · 11-22-2007, 12:40 AM

Any marks on the unfired shells ???

JohnRaven.exe · 11-22-2007, 01:10 AM

Nope, nothing that I can actually see.....

rckymtnboy · 11-22-2007, 01:24 AM

almost looks like a strike from the ejector. Happy Birthday, officially in half an hour, Mooseman!

Mooseman684 · 11-22-2007, 02:11 AM

to make that kind of dent in a shell takes pressure or Impact...If its not in the chamber, it has to either be during cycling, or hitting something during ejection....with nothing in the chamber, the dent would fireform out if it was in it prior to chambering.
hmm..

gunney_m · 11-22-2007, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rckymtnboy

almost looks like a strike from the ejector. Happy Birthday, officially in half an hour, Mooseman!

The same from me.

BORIS · 11-22-2007, 11:26 AM

I have the same exact shotgun and it makes the same mark. I also shoot the same remington loads and it ejects them just fine.

Just don't shoot them shells no more if they are the only ones that give you a problem. I have a few other shotguns that had a problem with tough ejection (of certain brands), and just left them on the store shelves and had a good ole time shooting what worked......

JohnRaven.exe · 11-23-2007, 12:03 AM

Thanks for the advice/info guys.... I guess I'll just keep trying and maybe I'll get them to work right every time...

Thanks!

Mooseman684 · 11-23-2007, 12:59 PM

Johnny,
Try some of the "Estate Brand" 12 ga. bird shot and see how they function. They are less expensive than most brands, Made by Federal, and we shoot thousands of them a year in all makes of shotguns at our Trap shoots and they function in all shotguns so far.
I use the 1-1/8 ounce #7-1/2 shot for the best pattern in my shotguns and range.
Rich

11-16-2007, 08:40 PM	#1
JohnRaven.exe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 177 Trader Rating: (0)	Norinco 12 Gauge - Game loads won't cycle I haave a Norinco 12 gauge (Ithica 37 clone) The first time I went shooting with it, I had a VERY hard time with the game loads. They would not eject without some serious force of the pump arm. The Slugs & Buckshot I put through it cycled without a problem... Recently I noticed these 'markings' on the shells... ImageShack - Hosting :: shells001zg3.jpg ImageShack - Hosting :: shells002mp3.jpg What part of the gun is causing this and what can I do to fix it? __________________ Taking full advantage of my RIGHT to bear ARMS. Last edited by JohnRaven.exe; 11-17-2007 at 07:48 AM.

11-21-2007, 10:57 PM	#2
JohnRaven.exe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 177 Trader Rating: (0)	Bueller? Bueller? __________________ Taking full advantage of my RIGHT to bear ARMS.

11-21-2007, 11:18 PM	#3
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,182 Trader Rating: (0)	Open the action and run your finger around the chamber and see if you feel a burr...about 3/8 inch to 1/2 inch in from the end of the chamber. Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

11-22-2007, 12:37 AM	#4
JohnRaven.exe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 177 Trader Rating: (0)	Nope! nothing there... shells load and eject just fine UN-FIRED... when I put them in by hand its really smooth.... Hmm. __________________ Taking full advantage of my RIGHT to bear ARMS.

11-22-2007, 12:40 AM	#5
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,182 Trader Rating: (0)	Any marks on the unfired shells ??? __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

11-22-2007, 01:10 AM	#6
JohnRaven.exe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 177 Trader Rating: (0)	Nope, nothing that I can actually see..... __________________ Taking full advantage of my RIGHT to bear ARMS.

11-22-2007, 01:24 AM	#7
rckymtnboy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I am a dual resident. Posts: 340 Trader Rating: (0)	almost looks like a strike from the ejector. Happy Birthday, officially in half an hour, Mooseman! __________________ When they come for my guns, I'll give 'em the bullets first!

11-22-2007, 02:11 AM	#8
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,182 Trader Rating: (0)	to make that kind of dent in a shell takes pressure or Impact...If its not in the chamber, it has to either be during cycling, or hitting something during ejection....with nothing in the chamber, the dent would fireform out if it was in it prior to chambering. hmm.. __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

11-22-2007, 11:26 AM	#10
BORIS Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 35 Trader Rating: (0)	I have the same exact shotgun and it makes the same mark. I also shoot the same remington loads and it ejects them just fine. Just don't shoot them shells no more if they are the only ones that give you a problem. I have a few other shotguns that had a problem with tough ejection (of certain brands), and just left them on the store shelves and had a good ole time shooting what worked......

11-23-2007, 12:03 AM	#11
JohnRaven.exe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 177 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks for the advice/info guys.... I guess I'll just keep trying and maybe I'll get them to work right every time... Thanks! __________________ Taking full advantage of my RIGHT to bear ARMS.

11-23-2007, 12:59 PM	#12
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,182 Trader Rating: (0)	Johnny, Try some of the "Estate Brand" 12 ga. bird shot and see how they function. They are less expensive than most brands, Made by Federal, and we shoot thousands of them a year in all makes of shotguns at our Trap shoots and they function in all shotguns so far. I use the 1-1/8 ounce #7-1/2 shot for the best pattern in my shotguns and range. Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!