Slugs out of a choked barrel ???

O/U Guy · 12-12-2007, 09:46 PM

Is it safe to shoot slugs out of a choked ( IC or M) 12 guage?
Mossberg does not recommend to shoot anything out of the barrels without a choke being installed?

Rem 742 30-06 · 12-12-2007, 09:51 PM

if they are fixed chokes fire away if they are screw in it gets iffy so i don't know about that i am sure somebody has had some experience with that

Mooseman684 · 12-12-2007, 10:18 PM

It is supposed to be safe to shoot slugs thru a barrel with screw in chokes, however I have had them come in for repairs where they Split the end of the barrel, blew out the chokes, etc.
I'm not an Engineer, I'm a Gunsmith,But,I realized that if you look down a Rifled Slug screw-in choke, the twist is counter clockwise so after repeated firing the slug can actually Unscrew the choke, loosening it causing failure if it is Not Re-tightened in the threads.
Since slugs are rifled the same way, I figure this is what happened to standard smooth Chokes in IMP. Cyl And MOD. that the slug starts spinning and loosens the choke after a time, or the chokes were loose to begin with.My 870 Rem. Slug barrel is like that.
I personally prefer to shoot slugs in barrels without screw in chokes...
Rich

O/U Guy · 12-12-2007, 10:22 PM

Thank you for the input. The chokes are threaded. I was told at a gunshop that it was fine to shoot slugs through the improved cyl choke. I wanted to ask here as well.. this is a great forum by the way.
I have sent an E mail asking Mossberg.

John

Mooseman684 · 12-12-2007, 10:26 PM

The I/C is the bigger hole to let a slug pass thru...Keep it screwed in Tight !
Rich

nathangdad · 12-13-2007, 08:19 AM

If you have a screw in choke system anything fired through the barrel without a choke screwed in will damage the barrel's threads.

A slug is really best fired through a cylinder (no choke factor) setting. The sabots may generally be fired through a choked barrel as the material surrounding the sabot will compress without damaging the choke tube.

killer · 12-13-2007, 08:54 AM

I also have fired slugs through two IC chokes without damage but like Mooseman said I kept an eye on the choke loosening.

I did call Remington quizzing them about #4 buckshot and my turkey choke to get more range on old yellow tooth and they said not a good idea. I guess the pattern is better with IC choke anyway for buckshot?

Sam. · 12-21-2007, 12:17 AM

I have an 870 and I've shot rifled slugs through the I/C choke and have had no problems.

Ricochet · 12-26-2007, 08:35 PM

As for buckshot, the only way to know for sure is by patterning with the shells and gun you plan to use. But tighter chokes squeeze the big shot together and deform them more, which may give bigger/more irregular patterns than you'd get with a straight cylinder bore.

whitetailhunter · 12-28-2007, 02:09 AM

I have shot slugs threw my 870 for years couldnt tell you how many round went through my ic and mod tubes but I have never had a problem but then agin i have never had a problem of any kind with that gun

samuel · 12-28-2007, 05:36 AM

As Mooseman said I personally dont to choose to shoot slugs through a screwin choke because I have seen ruptured barrels.When a barrel is cut through about a 1/3rd of its thickness by cutting threads in it,that takes some of the safety factor and then you run a slug down 20"+barrel gaining speed and the diammeter is .728" and suddenly slam it into a choke that is .690 to .710 diameter,that has to cause a significant jump in pressure.It may be safe but I dont trust it. sam.

SDorton9 · 12-28-2007, 11:07 PM

For my Stoeger Condor O/U the manual says to fire slugs from a C choke. The chokes for my model are screw-in internal. If the factory said its ok and will warranty their product I'd imagine its safe to do. However, I am a novice and Mooseman seems to know his stuff.

rogermeri · 12-30-2007, 07:23 PM

I HAVE A 1187 REMINGTON AND I BOUGHT A RIFLE CHOKE FOR MY GUN AND HAVE SHOT
SOME DANDY BUCKS.NO PROBLEMS AT ALL VERY ACCURATE..ROGER

wess · 01-05-2008, 08:44 PM

Hey Guys, I am probably the most green person on this forum ....so i'm not really familliar with all the termanology...I just got an 870 remington super mag 12 gauge and it has a screw in choke .....i was told the only way i can shoot a slug with my gun is to go buy a slug barrell. What do you guys say??

Ricochet · 01-07-2008, 07:01 PM

For sabot slugs intended to be used with a rifled barrel, that's pretty much true. The old style Foster slugs are meant to work in smooth bores.

I still think the whole concept of "rifled shotguns" is strange.

dosbow · 01-12-2008, 05:38 PM

So a Rem 870 Modified, not screw in, is ok to shoot a slug from? I've got a 20" slug barrel but it shoots about 2' high at about 50 yds.....I'd like to try a non-sabbot out of the Mod.
Dave

Mooseman684 · 01-12-2008, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dosbow

So a Rem 870 Modified, not screw in, is ok to shoot a slug from? I've got a 20" slug barrel but it shoots about 2' high at about 50 yds.....I'd like to try a non-sabbot out of the Mod.
Dave

You can shoot a regular slug thru a Mod. barrel that has no threaded choke without any problem....
Rich

12-12-2007, 09:46 PM	#1
O/U Guy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0)	Slugs out of a choked barrel ??? Is it safe to shoot slugs out of a choked ( IC or M) 12 guage? Mossberg does not recommend to shoot anything out of the barrels without a choke being installed?

12-12-2007, 09:51 PM	#2
Rem 742 30-06 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Wisconsin Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0)	if they are fixed chokes fire away if they are screw in it gets iffy so i don't know about that i am sure somebody has had some experience with that __________________ http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...5c158a2d7a.jpg

12-12-2007, 10:18 PM	#3
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,172 Trader Rating: (0)	It is supposed to be safe to shoot slugs thru a barrel with screw in chokes, however I have had them come in for repairs where they Split the end of the barrel, blew out the chokes, etc. I'm not an Engineer, I'm a Gunsmith,But,I realized that if you look down a Rifled Slug screw-in choke, the twist is counter clockwise so after repeated firing the slug can actually Unscrew the choke, loosening it causing failure if it is Not Re-tightened in the threads. Since slugs are rifled the same way, I figure this is what happened to standard smooth Chokes in IMP. Cyl And MOD. that the slug starts spinning and loosens the choke after a time, or the chokes were loose to begin with.My 870 Rem. Slug barrel is like that. I personally prefer to shoot slugs in barrels without screw in chokes... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

12-12-2007, 10:26 PM	#5
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,172 Trader Rating: (0)	The I/C is the bigger hole to let a slug pass thru...Keep it screwed in Tight ! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

12-13-2007, 08:19 AM	#6
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,185 Trader Rating: (0)	Don't ruin your threads If you have a screw in choke system anything fired through the barrel without a choke screwed in will damage the barrel's threads. A slug is really best fired through a cylinder (no choke factor) setting. The sabots may generally be fired through a choked barrel as the material surrounding the sabot will compress without damaging the choke tube.

12-12-2007, 10:22 PM	#4
O/U Guy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0)	Thank you for the input. The chokes are threaded. I was told at a gunshop that it was fine to shoot slugs through the improved cyl choke. I wanted to ask here as well.. this is a great forum by the way. I have sent an E mail asking Mossberg. John

12-13-2007, 08:54 AM	#7
killer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the rat race Posts: 906 Trader Rating: (0)	I also have fired slugs through two IC chokes without damage but like Mooseman said I kept an eye on the choke loosening. I did call Remington quizzing them about #4 buckshot and my turkey choke to get more range on old yellow tooth and they said not a good idea. I guess the pattern is better with IC choke anyway for buckshot? __________________ "Yeee Hawww...I'm a cowboy on an iron horse." Killer's cabin: http://buckmountainchateau.com/

12-21-2007, 12:17 AM	#8
Sam. Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0)	I have an 870 and I've shot rifled slugs through the I/C choke and have had no problems.

12-26-2007, 08:35 PM	#9
Ricochet Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bristol, Tennessee, USA Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0)	As for buckshot, the only way to know for sure is by patterning with the shells and gun you plan to use. But tighter chokes squeeze the big shot together and deform them more, which may give bigger/more irregular patterns than you'd get with a straight cylinder bore. __________________ "A cheerful heart is good medicine."

12-28-2007, 02:09 AM	#10
whitetailhunter Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NC Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0)	I have shot slugs threw my 870 for years couldnt tell you how many round went through my ic and mod tubes but I have never had a problem but then agin i have never had a problem of any kind with that gun

12-28-2007, 05:36 AM	#11
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,050 Trader Rating: (0)	As Mooseman said I personally dont to choose to shoot slugs through a screwin choke because I have seen ruptured barrels.When a barrel is cut through about a 1/3rd of its thickness by cutting threads in it,that takes some of the safety factor and then you run a slug down 20"+barrel gaining speed and the diammeter is .728" and suddenly slam it into a choke that is .690 to .710 diameter,that has to cause a significant jump in pressure.It may be safe but I dont trust it. sam.

12-28-2007, 11:07 PM	#12
SDorton9 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Daytona Beach, Fl Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0)	For my Stoeger Condor O/U the manual says to fire slugs from a C choke. The chokes for my model are screw-in internal. If the factory said its ok and will warranty their product I'd imagine its safe to do. However, I am a novice and Mooseman seems to know his stuff.

12-30-2007, 07:23 PM	#13
rogermeri Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0)	I HAVE A 1187 REMINGTON AND I BOUGHT A RIFLE CHOKE FOR MY GUN AND HAVE SHOT SOME DANDY BUCKS.NO PROBLEMS AT ALL VERY ACCURATE..ROGER

01-05-2008, 08:44 PM	#14
wess Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: florida Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0)	Hey Guys, I am probably the most green person on this forum ....so i'm not really familliar with all the termanology...I just got an 870 remington super mag 12 gauge and it has a screw in choke .....i was told the only way i can shoot a slug with my gun is to go buy a slug barrell. What do you guys say??

01-07-2008, 07:01 PM	#15
Ricochet Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bristol, Tennessee, USA Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0)	For sabot slugs intended to be used with a rifled barrel, that's pretty much true. The old style Foster slugs are meant to work in smooth bores. I still think the whole concept of "rifled shotguns" is strange. __________________ "A cheerful heart is good medicine."

01-12-2008, 05:38 PM	#16
dosbow Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (0)	So a Rem 870 Modified, not screw in, is ok to shoot a slug from? I've got a 20" slug barrel but it shoots about 2' high at about 50 yds.....I'd like to try a non-sabbot out of the Mod. Dave