o lordy! i want one of these!!!!!!!!!

billy · 02-19-2008, 11:07 PM

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jeff45 · 02-19-2008, 11:18 PM

Take that baby out on some geese flying over. Take em all out. lol.

billy · 02-19-2008, 11:19 PM

theres not many things in the yard that wouldnt be fulla holes.

sell33 · 02-20-2008, 12:08 AM

holy $*@& why doesn't the military already have those???????????????

bigbuddy21 · 02-20-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sell33

holy $*@& why doesn't the military already have those???????????????

THERE GETTING THEM.

just_a_car · 02-20-2008, 02:25 AM

Crappy part?... They say it's 300 rds/minute. That's the definition of a machine gun: 5 rounds/second. If it were 1 round less per minute, we could buy it as, what I would guess, would be an AOW. Plus, it would allow me to own it in my state, as we have a state law prohibiting machine guns and machine gun parts (that's right, you cannot possess a legally purchased registered full-auto sear in WA State).

I'm hoping they were just rounding up and that it's actually something like 298 rounds/minute, as that would allow me to own it... no matter that I probably couldn't afford it for many years.

Lng Rng · 02-20-2008, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by just_a_car

Crappy part?... They say it's 300 rds/minute. That's the definition of a machine gun: 5 rounds/second. If it were 1 round less per minute, we could buy it as, what I would guess, would be an AOW. Plus, it would allow me to own it in my state, as we have a state law prohibiting machine guns and machine gun parts (that's right, you cannot possess a legally purchased registered full-auto sear in WA State).

I'm hoping they were just rounding up and that it's actually something like 298 rounds/minute, as that would allow me to own it... no matter that I probably couldn't afford it for many years.

But what about the new shot guns from Beretta and Winchester that shoot 12 rounds in under 2 seconds?

just_a_car · 02-20-2008, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lng Rng

But what about the new shot guns from Beretta and Winchester that shoot 12 rounds in under 2 seconds?

You have to pull the trigger once for each round. The one in the video has the trigger held-down as in a full-auto weapon. Pull and hold trigger and it will shoot until the magazine is empty.

Alleydude · 02-20-2008, 07:22 AM

Do you suppose I could get some of those FRAG-12 rounds at Gander Mt.?

OZHUNTER62 · 02-20-2008, 08:59 AM

That my freinds is one hell of a weapon,dear God if your listening I been good!! real good!! please! please! please! can I have one?.

GlockMeister · 02-20-2008, 09:37 AM

I've seen that on futereweapons and or weaponology on the military channel a few times now. It's definately a shotgun that can hold plenty of rounds. I can't remember for sure, but I think it can shoot some explosive loads or something, not sure if it was that one or a different one he's had on the shows. It was on a few nights ago, and since I'd seen it already, a repeat episode, I kept on channel flipping.

Sure would be nice to have around wouldn't it. I forget how much he said it weighed, both empty and with a full load. Id memory serves me right, it wasn't all that bad.

jd1911 · 02-20-2008, 09:42 AM

ill take two one in mossy oak and another flat black please pretty please

270wsm · 02-20-2008, 11:20 AM

Daaaaaaaaaaaaang! I got ot get me one of those!

sell33 · 02-20-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbuddy21

THERE GETTING THEM.

Hopefully Soon!!

mosineer · 02-20-2008, 11:38 AM

AWESOME!!!!

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damage855 · 02-20-2008, 02:52 PM

and I thought my Saiga-12 was bad@$$ it doesnt even compare to that thing!!!

sell33 · 02-20-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by just_a_car

Crappy part?... They say it's 300 rds/minute. That's the definition of a machine gun: 5 rounds/second. If it were 1 round less per minute, we could buy it as, what I would guess, would be an AOW. Plus, it would allow me to own it in my state, as we have a state law prohibiting machine guns and machine gun parts (that's right, you cannot possess a legally purchased registered full-auto sear in WA State).

I'm hoping they were just rounding up and that it's actually something like 298 rounds/minute, as that would allow me to own it... no matter that I probably couldn't afford it for many years.

It say "nearly 300 rounds a minute" in the video?? lol maybe its legal

just_a_car · 02-20-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sell33

It say "nearly 300 rounds a minute" in the video?? lol maybe its legal

It probably is for other guys, but here's where I have the problem in my state:

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(1) It is unlawful for any person to manufacture, own, buy, sell, loan, furnish, transport, or have in possession or under control, any machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; or any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for use in a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or in converting a weapon into a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; or to assemble or repair any machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle.

Ref: RCW 9.41.190: Unlawful firearms — Exceptions.

And here's the definition of a machine gun in my state:

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(7) "Machine gun" means any firearm known as a machine gun, mechanical rifle, submachine gun, or any other mechanism or instrument not requiring that the trigger be pressed for each shot and having a reservoir clip, disc, drum, belt, or other separable mechanical device for storing, carrying, or supplying ammunition which can be loaded into the firearm, mechanism, or instrument, and fired therefrom at the rate of five or more shots per second.

Ref: RCW 9.41.010: Terms defined.

Note the three "and"s that link the trigger section, magazine section, and fire rate section such that all must be met. This means if one is not met, it is not a machine gun; e.g. if you pull the trigger once and it shoots at 4.9 shots per second, you're not in possession of a machine gun.

The interesting part is, there is case law that states if you don't have a magazine and just use it as a single-shot firearm, you're kind of in the clear (halfway down the page, State v. Carter): Full auto case law - Washington - Stories From The States - OpenCarry.org - Discussion Forum but they could have charged him with possessing machine gun parts. He was fortunate they didn't, as they now can't touch him under double jeopardy.

HEMI · 02-21-2008, 10:11 AM

Witnesses what witnesses

Can you say colateral damage

Ya I want one,they should sell it as a home reno tool.
I can see it now "UNCLE HEMI'S SKY LIGHTS'"

squirrelblaster · 02-21-2008, 11:51 AM

WOW, thats one hell of a new toy our boys are getting....... i wounder how much it weighs exactly.

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GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,676	I've seen that on futereweapons and or weaponology on the military channel a few times now. It's definately a shotgun that can hold plenty of rounds. I can't remember for sure, but I think it can shoot some explosive loads or something, not sure if it was that one or a different one he's had on the shows. It was on a few nights ago, and since I'd seen it already, a repeat episode, I kept on channel flipping. Sure would be nice to have around wouldn't it. I forget how much he said it weighed, both empty and with a full load. Id memory serves me right, it wasn't all that bad. __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

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HEMI Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,180	Witnesses what witnesses Can you say colateral damage Ya I want one,they should sell it as a home reno tool. I can see it now "UNCLE HEMI'S SKY LIGHTS'"

02-21-2008, 11:51 AM	#20
squirrelblaster lord of lego turtles! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,494	WOW, thats one hell of a new toy our boys are getting....... i wounder how much it weighs exactly.