12ga lever action need info ??

bushytas · 07-23-2008, 06:17 AM

Hello All
I’m new to the forum and I have one or two questions for someone to answer
I’m after a good 12ga lever action no more than 5 shots as the laws here in Australia are a bit hard on us and won’t let me use anything over 5 shot mag.
Anyway I’m looking for good barrel length nice smooth action and a good life span and I’m also looking for a good long range gun so nothing with a short barrel.
Well I hope someone can help
Cheers
Brendon

samuel · 07-23-2008, 07:46 AM

Put norinco firearms on your search bar and you get something like Canada Norinco.They are in the upper right hand corner. $399. sam.

ArkansasHunter · 07-23-2008, 07:48 AM

bushytas WELCOME to GUN and GAME feller Were delighted you Joined and were looking forward to see'in you around.
You'll make a lot of good friends here too !!!!...A.H

rebel727 · 07-23-2008, 12:11 PM

You'll have to plug it or otherwise reduce the number of shells the Norinco holds. 1887 Winchesters and clones hold 7 with one in the chamber.

samuel · 07-23-2008, 12:58 PM

If I had to shorten it,I would just shorten the magazine if they won't settle for a plug.Most places will.Mich.even settles for a wooden plug in an SKS mag to make it 5 shot. sam.

rebel727 · 07-23-2008, 01:04 PM

I just caught the part about the 5 round mag. I was thinking 5 round total. The 87's only hold five in the mag but hold 7 total. Five in the mag, one in the carrier and one in the tube.

tippmann7 · 07-23-2008, 01:37 PM

you should feel lucky you get 5 shots, in ohio we can only have 3.

samuel · 07-23-2008, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tippmann7

you should feel lucky you get 5 shots, in ohio we can only have 3.

Yeah,but you have some pretty scenery in the southern half,especially along the Ohio river. sam.

bushytas · 07-24-2008, 07:51 AM

well ive had a bit of a look on the net at the gun but i cant find out how long the barrel is ?
And sorry i took so long to get back on but ive been busy with work all day and only just got home 10:40pm

been at work since 7am anyway heading off to bed and i will check the forum again tomorrow
cheers
Brendon

rebel727 · 07-24-2008, 10:12 AM

Norinco is apparently making 87's for the Australian market. ADI is supposed to be making 87's for the Australian market but not sure if they are yet. Chiappa of Italy is supposed to have them out later this year. I know nothing about the quality of ADI or Chiappa. Early Norinco's had some problems but those have been worked out and their quality is top notch now, at least the ones made for IAC and imported here are(we can't get guns directly from China). So far all the IAC guns imported here have 20 inch barrels.

samuel · 07-24-2008, 01:52 PM

Your a good man,even if you are a Reb!!! sam.

tippmann7 · 07-24-2008, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samuel

Yeah,but you have some pretty scenery in the southern half,especially along the Ohio river. sam.

im in the northern half, not all that pretty here lol

Rex in OTZ · 07-25-2008, 03:45 PM

Could look around for a Kessler Model 50 Lever-Matic, Numrich bought out Kessler Arms and for awhile were selling Kessler shotguns as build it your self kits the had a neat accelerator lever attached to the fingerlever that shortened the amount fo lever travel required to actuate the bolt...... I think Ruger studied this idea for its 9622 lever action rifles and back in the 1950's Marlin manufactured there model #56 "clip fed", #57 "tube fed .22lr", #57M ".22mag tube fed", #62 "30carbine clip fed"
my father still has his early model 56 and can fire it almost as fast as a semi-auto as the lever drops down about a inch and half

Johnny_Revolver · 07-25-2008, 03:56 PM

Nioa import 1887 lever shotguns under the Chiappa brand. Choice of a colour case hardened or chrome reciever, 22" and 28" barrels American walnut ( it might be anyway, says it is ) stock and forend and they have 5+1 capacity.

Go to NIOA Trading: Importers and Wholesale Distributors in Australia and see if a dealer is close to you. Chances are there will be one. I wouldn`t take the prices on Nioa`s website to heart, they are usually a tad over what you can get at your local shop. But they are indicative.

I`ve not seen the Chiappa jobbies, but the IAC ( I think ) ones that hit the market here were primarily for the chap who simpley had to have a lever action 12 guage. They left a bit to be desired for my wallet.

bushytas · 07-25-2008, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny_Revolver

Nioa import 1887 lever shotguns under the Chiappa brand. Choice of a colour case hardened or chrome reciever, 22" and 28" barrels American walnut ( it might be anyway, says it is ) stock and forend and they have 5+1 capacity.

Go to NIOA Trading: Importers and Wholesale Distributors in Australia and see if a dealer is close to you. Chances are there will be one. I wouldn`t take the prices on Nioa`s website to heart, they are usually a tad over what you can get at your local shop. But they are indicative.

I`ve not seen the Chiappa jobbies, but the IAC ( I think ) ones that hit the market here were primarily for the chap who simpley had to have a lever action 12 guage. They left a bit to be desired for my wallet.

thanks guys great info has been well worth joining everyone is so frendley unlike other forums (not treated like an idot) Im going to really enjoy talking to other fellow weapon owners

07-23-2008, 06:17 AM	#1
bushytas Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0)	12ga lever action need info ?? Hello All I’m new to the forum and I have one or two questions for someone to answer I’m after a good 12ga lever action no more than 5 shots as the laws here in Australia are a bit hard on us and won’t let me use anything over 5 shot mag. Anyway I’m looking for good barrel length nice smooth action and a good life span and I’m also looking for a good long range gun so nothing with a short barrel. Well I hope someone can help Cheers Brendon

07-23-2008, 12:11 PM	#4
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,512 Trader Rating: (0)	You'll have to plug it or otherwise reduce the number of shells the Norinco holds. 1887 Winchesters and clones hold 7 with one in the chamber. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

07-23-2008, 01:37 PM	#7
tippmann7 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Attica, Ohio Posts: 678 Trader Rating: (0)	you should feel lucky you get 5 shots, in ohio we can only have 3. __________________ you cannot kill what you did not create

07-24-2008, 10:12 AM	#10
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,512 Trader Rating: (0)	Norinco is apparently making 87's for the Australian market. ADI is supposed to be making 87's for the Australian market but not sure if they are yet. Chiappa of Italy is supposed to have them out later this year. I know nothing about the quality of ADI or Chiappa. Early Norinco's had some problems but those have been worked out and their quality is top notch now, at least the ones made for IAC and imported here are(we can't get guns directly from China). So far all the IAC guns imported here have 20 inch barrels. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

07-25-2008, 03:56 PM	#14
Johnny_Revolver Gun Liker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,200 Trader Rating: (0)	Nioa import 1887 lever shotguns under the Chiappa brand. Choice of a colour case hardened or chrome reciever, 22" and 28" barrels American walnut ( it might be anyway, says it is ) stock and forend and they have 5+1 capacity. Go to NIOA Trading: Importers and Wholesale Distributors in Australia and see if a dealer is close to you. Chances are there will be one. I wouldn`t take the prices on Nioa`s website to heart, they are usually a tad over what you can get at your local shop. But they are indicative. I`ve not seen the Chiappa jobbies, but the IAC ( I think ) ones that hit the market here were primarily for the chap who simpley had to have a lever action 12 guage. They left a bit to be desired for my wallet. __________________ It`s a good life, provided you don`t weaken.

07-23-2008, 07:46 AM	#2
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,050 Trader Rating: (0)	Put norinco firearms on your search bar and you get something like Canada Norinco.They are in the upper right hand corner. $399. sam.

07-23-2008, 07:48 AM	#3
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,504 Trader Rating: (0)	bushytas WELCOME to GUN and GAME feller Were delighted you Joined and were looking forward to see'in you around. You'll make a lot of good friends here too !!!!...A.H

07-23-2008, 12:58 PM	#5
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,050 Trader Rating: (0)	If I had to shorten it,I would just shorten the magazine if they won't settle for a plug.Most places will.Mich.even settles for a wooden plug in an SKS mag to make it 5 shot. sam.

07-23-2008, 01:04 PM	#6
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,512 Trader Rating: (0)	I just caught the part about the 5 round mag. I was thinking 5 round total. The 87's only hold five in the mag but hold 7 total. Five in the mag, one in the carrier and one in the tube. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

07-24-2008, 07:51 AM	#9
bushytas Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0)	well ive had a bit of a look on the net at the gun but i cant find out how long the barrel is ? And sorry i took so long to get back on but ive been busy with work all day and only just got home 10:40pm been at work since 7am anyway heading off to bed and i will check the forum again tomorrow cheers Brendon

07-24-2008, 01:52 PM	#11
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,050 Trader Rating: (0)	Your a good man,even if you are a Reb!!! sam.

07-25-2008, 03:45 PM	#13
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kotzebue, Alaska Posts: 389 Trader Rating: (0)	Could look around for a Kessler Model 50 Lever-Matic, Numrich bought out Kessler Arms and for awhile were selling Kessler shotguns as build it your self kits the had a neat accelerator lever attached to the fingerlever that shortened the amount fo lever travel required to actuate the bolt...... I think Ruger studied this idea for its 9622 lever action rifles and back in the 1950's Marlin manufactured there model #56 "clip fed", #57 "tube fed .22lr", #57M ".22mag tube fed", #62 "30carbine clip fed" my father still has his early model 56 and can fire it almost as fast as a semi-auto as the lever drops down about a inch and half