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Old 07-29-2009, 09:40 PM   #1
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is this round safe to fire through a shotgun?

i decided that i would find a cheap way to make slugs for plinking with minimal tools. i started with a round of bird shot and opened up the crimping, poured the pellets into a cup, pulled out the wadding, and melted the tip of the wadding so that it would stay closed and taper (see attached image). i put the lead shot back in the wadding hot glued the tip to keep the pellets in while in flight. then i firmly stuck the wadding back in the shell and crimped it.

all i want to know is is this safe? i pushed it throgh the bore of the shotgun with a cleaning rod and it went through fine.

if this is a stupid question, then i'm sorry. i'm a newbie to this stuff, and i don't want to end up as a statistic. i don't mean to promote hazardous actions.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:42 PM   #2
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:42 PM   #3
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it's cheaper.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:47 PM   #4
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Shot gun shells are loaded per the weight of the payload vs powder type and quantity. Your messen with the mekon.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:53 PM   #5
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it was a 1 oz. load, but because of the taper, i could only fit about 3/4 of the shot back in. i gueuss that the lighter projectile would just increase it's velocity a little bit.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:54 PM   #6
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I don't reload slugs but rifled slugs aren't overly expensive. If you just want to plink i'd buy those or get a .22.
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Old 07-29-2009, 10:00 PM   #7
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the foster type slugs are about $0.60 per round, but i can get 100 rounds of birdshot for $20. besides, if the SHTF (not to sound paranoid) and slugs got hard to find i could "possibly" use these at a close range on medium game.
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Old 07-29-2009, 10:13 PM   #8
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Not a lot of encourgement, huh? That payload may push through fine with a cleaning rod, but under the force of expanding gasses things can happen, like enough compression of the shot load to blow out your choke. I'd stick with proven, published loads. The Lyman book has a few round ball recipies that work...
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Old 07-29-2009, 10:17 PM   #9
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Well, as you describe it I rather doubt it would be a danger to the shooter.

However, I do wish to point out experimentation is not recommended for safety purposes.

Stick to accepted components. Stick to the reloading manuals.
Nothing is more important in the long run than safety.
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Old 07-29-2009, 10:23 PM   #10
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i'm assuming that the shot will move a little and deform inside the wadding just like regular birdshot. besides the nose has a slight taper so the portion holding the shot should barely even touch a modified choke. my main concern is if the wadding gets jammed in the barrel or doesn't leave the chamber correctly.
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I'm suprised no one has ask who the Mekon is. LOL
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Old 07-29-2009, 11:04 PM   #12
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to be quite honest, i wouldn't want you any where near me when you try to shoot that thing. you have no idea what its going to do. it may do nothing, or it may blow a nice thin shotgun barrel up in your face. you need to ask yourself one simple question, is your eye sight worth saving a dollar!
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i'm assuming that the shot will move a little and deform inside the wadding just like regular birdshot. besides the nose has a slight taper so the portion holding the shot should barely even touch a modified choke. my main concern is if the wadding gets jammed in the barrel or doesn't leave the chamber correctly.
Well, my .45 colt fits into the chamber of my .410 stagecoach but I ain't gonna shoot it. That full choke taper at the ends of the tubes would most likely turn the thing into a short barreled coachgun. Don't mess around with something you don't know if it will work.
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Stand a ways back and pull the trigger with a string...worked for Wiley Coyote. Hmmm...come to think of it,he got blown up.
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Old 07-29-2009, 11:24 PM   #14
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The hot melt glue is not welded to the plastic though it is stuck persay. When you fire it, it's all going to come undone and probable not going to do anything like your wanting it to do. BUT then there is that chance an unsafe event could happen.

Why don't you just sell your shotgun and that way you want ever have to worry about the cost of ammo for it Or blowing your face and hands off.

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Old 07-29-2009, 11:37 PM   #15
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It won't stay together, it will separate and spread out anyway.
That particular round may be safe, but altering components is a sure way to hurt yourself sooner or later. You will get poor performance out of the shell, and it won't do what you want, and spread pattern (coverage)will probably be poor too.

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Old 07-29-2009, 11:54 PM   #16
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I think yer messin with the devil myself. The shotgun hull is a pressure hull and reloading is totally different than metalic cartridge. If you want to reload something for whe the SHTF reload some 00 buckshot. if you need to reach out past 30-40 yards ... get a 30 cal. rifle
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thanks for the input. i've chickened out and decided not to try it. better to be safe then sorry.
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Old 07-30-2009, 12:14 AM   #18
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i decided that i would find a cheap way to make slugs for plinking with minimal tools. i started with a round of bird shot and opened up the crimping, poured the pellets into a cup, pulled out the wadding, and melted the tip of the wadding so that it would stay closed and taper (see attached image). i put the lead shot back in the wadding hot glued the tip to keep the pellets in while in flight. then i firmly stuck the wadding back in the shell and crimped it.

all i want to know is is this safe? i pushed it throgh the bore of the shotgun with a cleaning rod and it went through fine.

if this is a stupid question, then i'm sorry. i'm a newbie to this stuff, and i don't want to end up as a statistic. i don't mean to promote hazardous actions.
That is a problem,whether to spend a few cents more on factory slugs or a few dollars more buying a new gun or reparing the one you have if you can still shoot it once it,s repaired.You'l probably need a pencil and paper to figure this one. ,,,sam.
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got me jerry, had to check The Mekon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:27 AM   #20
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Try it and report back!
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