[TGF]

This thread should be titled porche vs. yugo. These two guns aren't even in the same category.

[DWARREN123]

I have owned both and many other brands. Either will do fine but when it comes down to just have to work in all conditions I have to give it to the Glocks.
I think the finish on Glocks is much tougher than just about any other and as for cold weather I like to run mine with a lite coat of a dry lube and never had a problem.
Just my experience.

[G. Green]

I have had both for a few years. I'm issued a Sig P-226 in .357 Sig, but I carry a Glock 31 .357 Sig. I'm a Sig armorer and think they have a dandy gun, but the 226 has a crappy trigger for me. The Sig is very accurate out of the box, 5 locking points on the barrel and barrel hood, many semis just have three. BUT the Glock is a lot more "shootable" for me. What do hands have in common? "They're all the same, and they're all different".

[Don357]

If it were me, I would choose just about anything over a Glock. Almost even a Highpoint. But, that's just my opinion. It's not that they're bad guns, I just wouldn't consider them great guns. There are problems with ALL makes and models from time to time, from Lorcin to Les Baer customs, and they have to be dealt with. Some problems cost more than others and some are more serious than others. For a mid priced gun that is hard to get to know, and fairly inexpensive to keep running, a Glock is OK, just not for me.

[BORIS]

Quote:       Originally Posted by TargetGunFan

This thread should be titled porche vs. yugo. These two guns aren't even in the same category.

Thats the FIRST time I have heard a SIG refered to as being a Yugo..

They are Fine weapons. Other than Glock they have the most consistant gun to gun trigger I have ever experienced. I know when I pick up a SIG, what the trigger stroke will feel like. I also know when I pick up a Glock, I WILL know how the trigger is going to feel...

Performance wise (after owning several of both) the Glock performs like a Porche, the Sig is like a middle higherendish VW..... Don't care much about looks if it cann't perform, and Glocks perform the best most consistantly of any brand made right now out of the box....

[KW Gary M]

Originally Posted by TargetGunFan
This thread should be titled porche vs. yugo. These two guns aren't even in the same category.

Quote:       Originally Posted by BORIS

Thats the FIRST time I have heard a SIG refered to as being a Yugo.. They are Fine weapons. Other than Glock they have the most consistant gun to gun trigger I have ever experienced. I know when I pick up a SIG, what the trigger stroke will feel like. I also know when I pick up a Glock, I WILL know how the trigger is going to feel... Performance wise (after owning several of both) the Glock performs like a Porche, the Sig is like a middle higherendish VW..... Don't care much about looks if it cann't perform, and Glocks perform the best most consistantly of any brand made right now out of the box....

I am only going to assume He was calling the High Point, oops, I meant Glock, the Yugo and the Sig the Porche. I have owned a Sig and shot several others. Thet are fine crafted weapons of high quality just like a Porche is a fine automobile. I Glock on the other hand, I've also shot and calling one a Yugo is a big insult to Yugo.

[Elvis Is Dead]

Originally Posted by TargetGunFan
This thread should be titled porche vs. yugo. These two guns aren't even in the same category.



I am only going to assume He was calling the High Point, oops, I meant Glock, the Yugo and the Sig the Porche. I have owned a Sig and shot several others. Thet are fine crafted weapons of high quality just like a Porche is a fine automobile. I Glock on the other hand, I've also shot and calling one a Yugo is a big insult to Yugo.[/quote]

Please, calling a High Point a Glock is an insult to High Point. Both companies make a very low quality gun but at least High Point is a low priced gun. I've shot both High Point and Glock and I find High Point to be a lot more accurate. I would never trust a High Point as a carry weapon but might keep one in my tackle box or in my barn at my country house to play with shooting cans in the yard. If someone were going to give me a High Point I'd keep it. If someone gave me a Glock I'd sell it to some sap on Gun Broker. However, neither the best High Point or the best Glock are 50% the quality of the very worst Sig.

[AstroVic]

In my law enforcement career I have carried three firearms:

1. Sig Sauer P226 for four years.
2. Colt 1911 Gov't model .45ACP for two years.
3. Glock Model 22 .40SW ever since (10+ years).

I take my choice of duty firearms very seriously and I wouldn't carry something if I had even the slightest fear of it malfunctioning. That said, with all other considerations in play (weather conditions, durability, ease of maintenance, etc.), the ONLY firearm I can ever imagine carrying is a Glock Model 22....period. Just my personal opinion. After putting thousands upon thousands of rounds through Glock Model 22's, I'm convinced that they are one of the most reliable weapons I've ever fired. I like the capacity and punch that the .40SW offers. I personally feel it's the best balance between the 9mm and the .45ACP.

I have once been forced to use my Glock to save my life (and the lives of others) and it performed exactly as I knew it would. I'm sure the other two guns I carried in my career would have done the same thing.

So, what I'm saying is, it all comes down to your own preference and the intended use of that firearm. Calling either a Glock or a Sig a "piece of junk" or a "Yugo" simply shows one's ignorance.

I know four people (myself included) who are alive today because of that wonderful piece of junk Yugo I carry every day, and I'm pretty sure my daughter is thankful that I opted for such a piece of garbage for a duty weapon.

[TGF]

Quote:       Originally Posted by townley747

In my law enforcement career I have carried three firearms: 1. Sig Sauer P226 for four years. 2. Colt 1911 Gov't model .45ACP for two years. 3. Glock Model 22 .40SW ever since (10+ years). I take my choice of duty firearms very seriously and I wouldn't carry something if I had even the slightest fear of it malfunctioning. That said, with all other considerations in play (weather conditions, durability, ease of maintenance, etc.), the ONLY firearm I can ever imagine carrying is a Glock Model 22....period. Just my personal opinion. After putting thousands upon thousands of rounds through Glock Model 22's, I'm convinced that they are one of the most reliable weapons I've ever fired. I like the capacity and punch that the .40SW offers. I personally feel it's the best balance between the 9mm and the .45ACP. I have once been forced to use my Glock to save my life (and the lives of others) and it performed exactly as I knew it would. I'm sure the other two guns I carried in my career would have done the same thing. So, what I'm saying is, it all comes down to your own preference and the intended use of that firearm. Calling either a Glock or a Sig a "piece of junk" or a "Yugo" simply shows one's ignorance. I know four people (myself included) who are alive today because of that wonderful piece of junk Yugo I carry every day, and I'm pretty sure my daughter is thankful that I opted for such a piece of garbage for a duty weapon.

Some good points have been made while the Sig is the porche if of handguns, and the hi-pioint would be more like the yugo, the price of the glock would definately make it not a yugo. Maybe I should have said it should titled porche vs cosworth vega.

[AstroVic]

Quote:       Originally Posted by TargetGunFan

Some good points have been made while the Sig is the porche if of handguns, and the hi-pioint would be more like the yugo, the price of the glock would definately make it not a yugo. Maybe I should have said it should titled porche vs cosworth vega.

Well, for whatever it's worth (no pun intended), price doesn't really factor into my decision regarding which gun to carry on duty. I'm allowed to carry pretty much any gun I want, so long as it's a 9mm/.38 or bigger, and I would spend ANY amount of money to protect my life and the lives of others.

Fortunately, it just so happens that I don't have to spend a fortune to do it.

If Glocks were $2,000 each, I would still carry a Model 22.

I guess it's just like cars. Just because a certain automobile costs two or three times as much as another car doesn't mean it's a higher quality product.

My two cents...

[Ten Man]

I own plenty of GLOCKs and SIGs. I have shot both of them extensively, and find the SIG more pleasurable to shoot. The SIG is heavier and has less felt recoil, thus is "nicer" to shoot for long range sessions.

With that said, I would take the GLOCK over the SIG, any day, for putting my life on the line. I carry the GLOCK every day, because I trust it 100%, to get the job done, if needed.


PS - Senior Moment - I forgot to mention the ammo capacity advantage of the GLOCK over the SIG. I carry only one spare mag for the GLOCK, but would have to carry two extra mags for the SIG to get close to the same ammo count -- G21 (2 mags) vs SIG P220 (3 mags) = 27 rounds of .45ACP vs 25 rounds of .45ACP. (One in the chamber, one mag in the gun, spare mag(s).)

Not that one would NEED that many rounds in a Personal Defense situation, but it is comforting to have them there.

[AstroVic]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Ten Man

I own plenty of GLOCKs and SIGs. I have shot both of them extensively, and find the SIG more pleasurable to shoot. The SIG is heavier and has less felt recoil, thus is "nicer" to shoot for long range sessions. With that said, I would take the GLOCK over the SIG, any day, for putting my life on the line. I carry the GLOCK every day, because I trust it 100%, to get the job done, if needed.

I wholeheartedly agree with the above comments.

I've often been asked about "which handgun is best" from folks. Of course, I always answer that it's a personal choice, but for me, if I'm stranded on an island or in a hostile environment (law enforcement, harsh weather, war, etc.), then the Glock is the handgun I'd choose.

Sorry if I sound a little bit passionate here. It's just that I love both guns and I've owned, shot, and carried each of them extensively. I have total admiration for the Sigs....but the Glocks are probably better "combat" style or "survival" style firearms.

If I just wanted a "shooter" for the range, I'd go with the Sig. If I wanted something to take into the battle, so to speak, I'm taking the Glock.

As an aside, I used to be a Glock hater...back in the mid 90's....but I learned to love them over time when I started to shoot them extensively.

[BORIS]

Quote:       Originally Posted by townley747

Well, for whatever it's worth (no pun intended), price doesn't really factor into my decision regarding which gun to carry on duty. I'm allowed to carry pretty much any gun I want, so long as it's a 9mm/.38 or bigger, and I would spend ANY amount of money to protect my life and the lives of others. Fortunately, it just so happens that I don't have to spend a fortune to do it. If Glocks were $2,000 each, I would still carry a Model 22. I guess it's just like cars. Just because a certain automobile costs two or three times as much as another car doesn't mean it's a higher quality product. My two cents...

Good call! The most reliable best performing car I ever bought brand new is also the cheapest I have ever bought. It was so good that after I got hit from behind while stopped at 35mph, and it needed so much work to it, I just bought another one and it is in a tie with the last one being the best car I ever bought.

I have a JA22 that as long as I feed it minimags and keep it cleaned after 150 rounds and run it wet, has yet to jam on me. I only paid $99.00 OTD for it. Before I got the P32 I did carry it C3.

Performance with guns=the ability to put rounds on target accuratley. For me I can ring a 12" gong at 100 yards with my G37 from the off hand. Someone will not refuse to stop or go down because my gun is less pretty than yours or holds 3 rounds less. Deer have no Idea I shoot them with a chicom knock off of a M37, all they know is a 1oz slab of lead just broke their shoulder and they cannt run anywhere 'cept my freezer. Price does not = performance, looks do not = performance. If you do not like the Glock trigger and a DA SA trigger on the SIG is for you and YOU can perform better with it, then thats what YOU need to be packin'.

[Elvis Is Dead]

Quote:       Originally Posted by TargetGunFan

Some good points have been made while the Sig is the porche if of handguns, and the hi-pioint would be more like the yugo, the price of the glock would definately make it not a yugo. Maybe I should have said it should titled porche vs cosworth vega.

Very true. High Point is like a Yugo being low quality and low priced. Glock is more prived like a Ford or Chevy but is of the quality of a Yugo. I wouldn't trust either as my carry gun but if my only choices were a High Point or a Glock I'd take the High Point. They shoot a lot more accurately.

[AstroVic]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Elvis Is Dead

I wouldn't trust either as my carry gun...

That's what makes the world a beautiful place, my friend. Everyone has an opinion on the "best" gun, the "best" caliber, etc.

I've personally cranked thousands upon tens of thousands of rounds out of my Glock 22...under a variety of scenarios...and there were maybe a small handful of instances where feeding problems occurred. Those happened only after extensive all-day range time (~1,000+ rounds fired) when the gun had become excessively dirty. A quick field strip and cleaning - which on a Glock takes only about two minutes, of course - and the gun was firing like it was brand new.

I have yet to find another firearm that could withstand as much abuse. But, hey, your results might be different.

The best part is I can buy a Glock brand new with three high cap law enforcement magazines for $399.

I guess you're right....it's kinda like buying a Chevy or a Ford, except I get a sweet deal on them and I happen to like them a whole lot.

And, as far as accuracy is concerned, I can tell you from my own experience that accuracy differences between handguns is overrated (unless you're strictly into target shooting). Most "real world" shooting scenarios are about 7 yards or less, so it's not like a half an inch one way or the other is going to make that much difference. Plus, your adrenalin will be pumping so hard that you'll be lucky if you can shoot a paper plate sized target at that distance. I'm speaking from experience here...but again your results might be different.

[TACAV]

I like both, have both and carry both.

Sig on duty and a glock off duty.

You cant go wrong with either but If I had to chose just on I would probably go Sig.

[Ten Man]

Quote:       Originally Posted by TACAV

I like both, have both and carry both. Sig on duty and a glock off duty. You cant go wrong with either but If I had to chose just on I would probably go Sig.

I have always maintained that the SIG would be the perfect DUTY gun, for LEO use. It's big, heavy, and nice to shoot at the range. It makes a dandy club, when empty!

Likewise, since I am not an LEO, I have always maintained that a GLOCK is the perfect CONCEALED CARRY gun. It's lighter, holds more rounds, and is "point and squeeze" simple. As townley747 said, the adrenaline dump will make a defensive shooting situation very sporty. The defender needs all the advantages they can get. Having the extra rounds may be the difference between life and death for a CCW holder, because, based on my own observations, most CCW holders DO NOT practice enough to be proficient at a magazine reload situation, let alone while fighting for their life.

I've not had to shoot anyone, but I've worked and talked with those who have. Based on all the CCW students I have taught over a 9 year period, and my own personal carry experience, these are my conclusions.

[double_O_Ro]

Glad I found this thread. I'm going through the same "Glock or Sig" thing myself. These are my choices for a duty firearm. I haven't shot either gun. Right now I am going with the Glock 22. Once I hit the range I will see what happens. The Sig choices are 229 or 226.

[AstroVic]

Quote:       Originally Posted by double_O_Ro

Glad I found this thread. I'm going through the same "Glock or Sig" thing myself. These are my choices for a duty firearm. I haven't shot either gun. Right now I am going with the Glock 22. Once I hit the range I will see what happens. The Sig choices are 229 or 226.

My only recommendation to you is to really learn how the Glock trigger feels....especially when it resets. It might feel awkward at first, but over time you will probably come to love it. If you can't get the feel for it, then you might be better served with one of the other choices.

Personally, I like the consistent & predictable trigger pull on the Glocks. The DA/SA thing on the Sigs never felt right to me. Too much crap going on for my taste - safeties, de-cocking, etc. I just want to point my weapon and know that it's going to go "BANG!" and hit the target every time.

[AstroVic]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Ten Man

I have always maintained that the SIG would be the perfect DUTY gun, for LEO use. It's big, heavy, and nice to shoot at the range. It makes a dandy club, when empty! Likewise, since I am not an LEO, I have always maintained that a GLOCK is the perfect CONCEALED CARRY gun.

Again, they are both excellent firearms...but the reasons why you said the Glock would be perfect for concealed carry are some of the same reasons why they are so popular with law enforcement.

I would guess that about 75% of the officers at the various law enforcement agencies in the Houston area carry Glocks...and the vast majority of them are .40SW (myself included). The remaining 25% generally carry a variety of Gov't models, H&Ks, Sigs, etc.