EVIL SKS

collector1948 · 01-05-2008, 02:41 PM

There seems to be a lot of confusion about what you can or cannot do to the SKS. Does anyone have a simple explaination as to what is "legal". I desperately want to write the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and ask a few questions, but do not want the "Storm Troopers" busting down my door because they suspect me of doing something illegal. Why is the bayonet lug "evil" if you remove the bayonet. Is it illegal to replace it with a bi-pod ? A friend gave me a 10 shot removeable clip to try on my YUGO SKS and it works great with the original stock,which I plan on using. I like the fact that I can take the clip out, which renders the rifle useless if it falls into the wrong hands, as I keep my ammo locked up seperate from my rifles. Is this also illegal ? Can I remove the gernade launcher sights and the "evil" night sight and still remain "legal". I would like to make some mods, but still be able to return to the original configuration if I decide to ever dispose of the rifle. Very very confusing

SPOCAHP ANAR · 01-05-2008, 03:00 PM

The ATF, government agency, may not tell you what is legal as they do not give "legal advice". They can give you the publications which explains what you can or can't do, or you can go to ATF.org and type in SKS in the search parameter.

Don't worry, they are more than happy to help violate your second amendment rights by telling you what you can do with your rifle.

collector1948 · 01-05-2008, 03:16 PM

I have already been there, as I said its confusing, just looking for laymans explaination, if one exists. But knowing how the "government" works I doubt that it does. I don't want to go to war with this rifle, as I have already gone to war, just want to have some fun shooting at the gun club range, but we have members who go by the book and bitch about anything and everything "illegal".....while they are hiding their skeletons

Reddbecca · 01-05-2008, 03:24 PM

Keep in mind that the ATF is by no means consistent in what they do. One officer will see nothing wrong with a particular product or at a gun store, another will call for an immediate hault in sales and demand that everything be turned over to them, and anybody in possession is said merchandise be identified so their agents can go and retreive it from them by force.

Pred · 01-05-2008, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by collector1948

I desperately want to write the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and ask a few questions, but do not want the "Storm Troopers" busting down my door because they suspect me of doing something illegal.

Write them, ask them who gave them the right to make crap up as they go.

Philip · 01-05-2008, 07:13 PM

oh how i yearn for the day when them there democrats see that it aint the guns doing the violence, but the person holding the piece of semi-complex machinery.

lets face it, it is quite a process to make a gun firable, load, cock, disengage safety, point it, decide to pull trigger, hammer is released, then there is a blooey...

ok, my rant is over, im good now =)

sammoh · 01-05-2008, 07:24 PM

Phillip,

What exactly is it you want to do to your SKS that you might be concerned about legality?

Just asking what's legal and what's not is kind of a broad question.

Sammoh

Mooseman684 · 01-05-2008, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by collector1948

There seems to be a lot of confusion about what you can or cannot do to the SKS. Does anyone have a simple explaination as to what is "legal". I desperately want to write the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and ask a few questions, but do not want the "Storm Troopers" busting down my door because they suspect me of doing something illegal. Why is the bayonet lug "evil" if you remove the bayonet. Is it illegal to replace it with a bi-pod ? A friend gave me a 10 shot removeable clip to try on my YUGO SKS and it works great with the original stock,which I plan on using. I like the fact that I can take the clip out, which renders the rifle useless if it falls into the wrong hands, as I keep my ammo locked up seperate from my rifles. Is this also illegal ? Can I remove the gernade launcher sights and the "evil" night sight and still remain "legal". I would like to make some mods, but still be able to return to the original configuration if I decide to ever dispose of the rifle. Very very confusing

Most people dont understand that YUGO Sks rifles are Not on the assault weapons list and they ARE a Curio and Relic...You can remove the Bayonet, the Grenade launcher, the Launcher sight...No problem. You can put a bipod on the bayonet lug , NO problem...
You can remove the Magazine for storage, I would also remove the bolt assy if you are worried about theft...again, No problem... You can also add ANY U.S.Made part you like, NO Problem, and storing ammo separately is highly advised....Again No problem.
Rich

collector1948 · 01-06-2008, 07:25 AM

I know the YUGO is a C&R rifle, but I thought it still falls under the 922r rule. (as i said, confusing) I want to remove the bayonet, night sights, and g/l sights. I want to put on a bolt on bi-pod for occasional use, and use a 10 rd. removeable clip. None of these mods would be permanent. I agree that I could remove the factory mag for storage, but I don't want to keep messing around taking out the trigger group and putting it back in everytime I want to go to the range, as besides being a pain, I can see problems down the road messing with that part. My rifles and ammo are in two seperate safes, so I not really worried about theft, but you never know anymore in this society....Thanks for all the help guys...

GlockMeister · 01-07-2008, 04:59 PM

Nothing to be confused about if you don't change anything. That was the route I took. If you do change something, keep what you took off, you can always put it back on if you haven't mutilated it in the process.

Example, I purchased the sight mount on the receiver cover and kept the original. Basically, it had a receiver cover on it and I just put a different one in it's place. Still have original and can easily put it back on. Also, if you do something say like install the Murray firing pin kit, which I recommend, all you have done is make it safer and therefore it is not considered altering it.

Best bet, leave it alone. No confusion in that. lol

G_Meister

collector1948 · 01-08-2008, 06:58 PM

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but has anyone tried the Pro Mag 10 round removable clip, in the YUGO. I am determined to do what I want with my property. I am not tryng to break any laws. I do not see the difference in using a fixed stripper clip, which I am very profecient with, and a removable clip as far as being legal. I just want to try something different with this rifle. After I get it out of my system I will probably put it back to original condition and put it in my "old" rifle guncase. Sorry to be a pain, but that is just me........

Beer Forever · 01-08-2008, 07:38 PM

From what I understand is that if you go and change things around that you have to have at least 10 U.S. made parts. I don't mess with mine because I like the rifle in the original state, but if you do change out parts make sure they are American, but there should not be any problem with removing original parts at all. I went through this whole thing and gave up. I see them all the rime dressed up in Tapco and all sorts of different configurations without a problem. BRG3 knows the darn rule by heart, if you can get him awakened he would know without a doubt.

P.S.,

The removable mags all suck big time, stay with the fixed it is much better.

sammoh · 01-08-2008, 08:02 PM

As a yugo sits, its not illegal. If you add a detachable mag to it, it becomes illegal. Take off the bayonet and it's ok with a 10 rd detachable mag (I think) otherwise if you slap on a 20rd, it becomes illegal again. If you want to "trick out" your SKS, you'll have to replace the firearm with at least 10 US made parts. Usually, at least in AKs, people do the gas piston (1), trigger group (3), bolt carrier (1), gas tube (1), stock and pistol grip (counts as 1), the magazine (1) and umm... I'm forgetting the other two pieces.

Good luck.

Sammoh

Mooseman684 · 01-08-2008, 10:07 PM

Please READ this Carefully, as it is a reply from The BATFE.....
This relates not to the 1994-2004 assault weapon ban, but to the 1989-to-forever import ban that is still active.

"Thank you for visiting ATF's Website. I apologize for the delay in responding,
but our FTB was backlogged with inquiries.

As stated on our site, generally, we do not answer technical questions via
e-mail, but I contacted our Firearms Technology Branch (FTB) and was advised the
following:

"Modifications to Imported SKS and AK Type Rifles

ATF's Firearms Technology Branch (FTB) received many letters asking about the
legality of making modifications to imported semi-automatic rifles and shotguns.

The Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA), 18 U.S.C. Section 922®, specifically states
the following:

It shall be unlawful for any person to assemble from imported parts any
semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun which is identical to any rifle or shotgun
prohibited from importation under the Section 925(d)(3)...as not being
particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes...
Also, 27 C.F.R. Section 478.39 (formerly 178.39) states-

"...(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more
than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph © of this section if the
assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not
being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purpose.....

( The provisions of this section shall not apply to:

(1) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution by a
licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or agency thereof
or to any State or any department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or
(2) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of testing or
experimentation authorized by the Director under the provisions
of[§478.151(formerly 178.151)]; or (3) The repair of any rifle or shotgun which
had been imported into or assembled in the United States prior to November 30,
1990, or the replacement of any part of such firearm.

© For purposes of this section, the term imported parts [tabulated below]
are:

(1) Frames, receivers, receiver
castings, forgings, or castings.
(2) Barrels.
(3) Barrel extensions.
(4) Mounting blocks (trunnions).
(5) Muzzle attachments.
(6) Bolts.
(7) Bolt carriers.
(8) Operating rods.
(9) Gas pistons.
(10) Trigger housings.
(11) Triggers.
(12) Hammers.
(13) Sears.
(14) Disconnectors.
(15) Buttstocks.
(16) Pistol grips.
(17) Forearms, handguards.
(18) Magazine bodies.
(19) Followers.
(20) Floor plates.

As a result of a 1989 study by the U.S. Treasury Department regarding the
importability of certain firearms, an import ban was placed on military-style
firearms. This ban included not only military-type firearms, but also extended
to firearms with certain features that were considered to be "nonsporting."
Among such nonsporting features were the ability to accept a detachable
magazine, folding/telescoping stocks, separate pistol grips, ability to accept a
bayonet, flash suppressors, bipods, grenade launchers, and night sights. NOTEThe
exception for this criteria is curios and relics in their original military
configuration i.e. the Yugoslavian SKS 59/66. Yugoslavian SKS 59/66 rifles can
be modified by removing offending features (as in the State of California) but
not adding features.

Determinations regarding the suitability for sporting purposes are made on a
case-by-case base and often will require review by the Firearms Technology
Branch. Rifles that are prohibited from importations include:

1. Semiautomatic versions of machineguns
2. Rifles chambered to accept a centerfire cartridge case having a length of
2.25 inches or less (includes .223 and 7.62 X 39); AND
3. Rifles that have the ability to accept a detachable large capacity magazine
originally designed and produced for a military assault rifle or be easily
modified to accept such a magazine with only minor adjustments to the rifle.

Non-sporting features may be removed from SKS and AK type rifles without
violating 922®, i.e. bayonet, bayonet lug, bipod, grenade launcher, flash
suppressor, and night sight. Any additions to SKS and AK type rifles would
make them nonsporting firearms that would be in violation of 922®. These
additions include: replacing the thumbhole stock with a pistol grip and
military style stock and/or modifying the firearm to accept a high capacity
magazine.

In order to modify SKS or AK type rifles and avoid any violations of 922®, you
will have to replace the foreign parts, except for 10, with U.S.-made parts. As
previously stated, no more than 10 of the above 20 foreign parts can be
installed after the modification.

You can remove the Night Sights, Grenade Launcher, Grenade Launcher
Sight, Bayonet, and Bayonet lug without repercussion as removal of items has no
bearing under Federal law."

Your proposal makes the following changes:

(1) Frames, receivers, receiver
castings, forgings, or castings.
(2) Barrels.
(3) Barrel extensions. None on SKS
(4) Mounting blocks (trunnions). None on SKS
(5) Muzzle attachments. Removed
(6) Bolts.
(7) Bolt carriers.
(8) Operating rods. None on SKS
(9) Gas pistons. Replaced with US part
(10) Trigger housings.
(11) Triggers.
(12) Hammers.
(13) Sears.
(14) Disconnectors.
(15) Buttstocks. Replaced with US part
(16) Pistol grips. None on SKS
(17) Forearms, handguards. Replaced with US part
(18) Magazine bodies. Replaced with US part
(19) Followers. Replaced with US part
(20) Floor plates. Replaced with US part

The resulting firearm would have items 1, 2, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14

Since the proposed rifle would only have 9 imported parts, the modifications
would be legal under Federal law."

If you have any further questions, please call them on 304-260-1700.

Cyrano · 01-09-2008, 08:30 AM

Wow, Moose. They actually gave you a more or less intelligable reply to your question and took the time to check over what you proposed to do. Impressive.

So, If I want to replace the bayonet with a bipod and put on a new receiver cover with a scope, the BATFE would not have a problem with those mods. That's reassuring.

Off topic, but a quick question. The bayonet is held in the bayonet lug by one screw. How much force should I have to apply to get that screw out so I can mount the bipod? I definitely don't want to damage it, but when I tried it with my big Craftsman screwdriver that fits the slot it wouldn't budge.

Mooseman684 · 01-09-2008, 09:50 AM

That screw is staked, so it is a real pain to remove.
I use an Impact driver (Handheld) and hammer to remove those screws.
Rich

01-05-2008, 02:41 PM	#1
collector1948 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: under the radar Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	EVIL SKS There seems to be a lot of confusion about what you can or cannot do to the SKS. Does anyone have a simple explaination as to what is "legal". I desperately want to write the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and ask a few questions, but do not want the "Storm Troopers" busting down my door because they suspect me of doing something illegal. Why is the bayonet lug "evil" if you remove the bayonet. Is it illegal to replace it with a bi-pod ? A friend gave me a 10 shot removeable clip to try on my YUGO SKS and it works great with the original stock,which I plan on using. I like the fact that I can take the clip out, which renders the rifle useless if it falls into the wrong hands, as I keep my ammo locked up seperate from my rifles. Is this also illegal ? Can I remove the gernade launcher sights and the "evil" night sight and still remain "legal". I would like to make some mods, but still be able to return to the original configuration if I decide to ever dispose of the rifle. Very very confusing Last edited by collector1948; 01-05-2008 at 02:47 PM.

01-05-2008, 03:00 PM	#2
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,022 Trader Rating: (0)	The ATF, government agency, may not tell you what is legal as they do not give "legal advice". They can give you the publications which explains what you can or can't do, or you can go to ATF.org and type in SKS in the search parameter. Don't worry, they are more than happy to help violate your second amendment rights by telling you what you can do with your rifle. __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

01-05-2008, 03:16 PM	#3
collector1948 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: under the radar Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	SKS I have already been there, as I said its confusing, just looking for laymans explaination, if one exists. But knowing how the "government" works I doubt that it does. I don't want to go to war with this rifle, as I have already gone to war, just want to have some fun shooting at the gun club range, but we have members who go by the book and bitch about anything and everything "illegal".....while they are hiding their skeletons

01-05-2008, 07:13 PM	#6
Philip Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 149 Trader Rating: (0)	oh how i yearn for the day when them there democrats see that it aint the guns doing the violence, but the person holding the piece of semi-complex machinery. lets face it, it is quite a process to make a gun firable, load, cock, disengage safety, point it, decide to pull trigger, hammer is released, then there is a blooey... ok, my rant is over, im good now =) __________________ i am not trying to jam a round up a fly's butt @100 yds. --- billy

01-06-2008, 07:25 AM	#9
collector1948 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: under the radar Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	SKS I know the YUGO is a C&R rifle, but I thought it still falls under the 922r rule. (as i said, confusing) I want to remove the bayonet, night sights, and g/l sights. I want to put on a bolt on bi-pod for occasional use, and use a 10 rd. removeable clip. None of these mods would be permanent. I agree that I could remove the factory mag for storage, but I don't want to keep messing around taking out the trigger group and putting it back in everytime I want to go to the range, as besides being a pain, I can see problems down the road messing with that part. My rifles and ammo are in two seperate safes, so I not really worried about theft, but you never know anymore in this society....Thanks for all the help guys...

01-05-2008, 03:24 PM	#4
Reddbecca Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 102 Trader Rating: (0)	Keep in mind that the ATF is by no means consistent in what they do. One officer will see nothing wrong with a particular product or at a gun store, another will call for an immediate hault in sales and demand that everything be turned over to them, and anybody in possession is said merchandise be identified so their agents can go and retreive it from them by force.

01-05-2008, 07:24 PM	#7
sammoh Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (0)	Phillip, What exactly is it you want to do to your SKS that you might be concerned about legality? Just asking what's legal and what's not is kind of a broad question. Sammoh

01-07-2008, 04:59 PM	#10
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,878 Trader Rating: (0)	Nothing to be confused about if you don't change anything. That was the route I took. If you do change something, keep what you took off, you can always put it back on if you haven't mutilated it in the process. Example, I purchased the sight mount on the receiver cover and kept the original. Basically, it had a receiver cover on it and I just put a different one in it's place. Still have original and can easily put it back on. Also, if you do something say like install the Murray firing pin kit, which I recommend, all you have done is make it safer and therefore it is not considered altering it. Best bet, leave it alone. No confusion in that. lol G_Meister __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

01-08-2008, 06:58 PM	#11
collector1948 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: under the radar Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	SKS Sorry to beat a dead horse, but has anyone tried the Pro Mag 10 round removable clip, in the YUGO. I am determined to do what I want with my property. I am not tryng to break any laws. I do not see the difference in using a fixed stripper clip, which I am very profecient with, and a removable clip as far as being legal. I just want to try something different with this rifle. After I get it out of my system I will probably put it back to original condition and put it in my "old" rifle guncase. Sorry to be a pain, but that is just me........

01-08-2008, 07:38 PM	#12
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,690 Trader Rating: (0)	From what I understand is that if you go and change things around that you have to have at least 10 U.S. made parts. I don't mess with mine because I like the rifle in the original state, but if you do change out parts make sure they are American, but there should not be any problem with removing original parts at all. I went through this whole thing and gave up. I see them all the rime dressed up in Tapco and all sorts of different configurations without a problem. BRG3 knows the darn rule by heart, if you can get him awakened he would know without a doubt. P.S., The removable mags all suck big time, stay with the fixed it is much better. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

01-08-2008, 08:02 PM	#13
sammoh Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (0)	As a yugo sits, its not illegal. If you add a detachable mag to it, it becomes illegal. Take off the bayonet and it's ok with a 10 rd detachable mag (I think) otherwise if you slap on a 20rd, it becomes illegal again. If you want to "trick out" your SKS, you'll have to replace the firearm with at least 10 US made parts. Usually, at least in AKs, people do the gas piston (1), trigger group (3), bolt carrier (1), gas tube (1), stock and pistol grip (counts as 1), the magazine (1) and umm... I'm forgetting the other two pieces. Good luck. Sammoh

01-08-2008, 10:07 PM	#14
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,183 Trader Rating: (0)	Please READ this Carefully, as it is a reply from The BATFE..... This relates not to the 1994-2004 assault weapon ban, but to the 1989-to-forever import ban that is still active. "Thank you for visiting ATF's Website. I apologize for the delay in responding, but our FTB was backlogged with inquiries. As stated on our site, generally, we do not answer technical questions via e-mail, but I contacted our Firearms Technology Branch (FTB) and was advised the following: "Modifications to Imported SKS and AK Type Rifles ATF's Firearms Technology Branch (FTB) received many letters asking about the legality of making modifications to imported semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. The Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA), 18 U.S.C. Section 922®, specifically states the following: It shall be unlawful for any person to assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun which is identical to any rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation under the Section 925(d)(3)...as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes... Also, 27 C.F.R. Section 478.39 (formerly 178.39) states- "...(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph © of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purpose..... ( The provisions of this section shall not apply to: (1) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or agency thereof or to any State or any department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or (2) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Director under the provisions of[§478.151(formerly 178.151)]; or (3) The repair of any rifle or shotgun which had been imported into or assembled in the United States prior to November 30, 1990, or the replacement of any part of such firearm. © For purposes of this section, the term imported parts [tabulated below] are: (1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings, or castings. (2) Barrels. (3) Barrel extensions. (4) Mounting blocks (trunnions). (5) Muzzle attachments. (6) Bolts. (7) Bolt carriers. (8) Operating rods. (9) Gas pistons. (10) Trigger housings. (11) Triggers. (12) Hammers. (13) Sears. (14) Disconnectors. (15) Buttstocks. (16) Pistol grips. (17) Forearms, handguards. (18) Magazine bodies. (19) Followers. (20) Floor plates. As a result of a 1989 study by the U.S. Treasury Department regarding the importability of certain firearms, an import ban was placed on military-style firearms. This ban included not only military-type firearms, but also extended to firearms with certain features that were considered to be "nonsporting." Among such nonsporting features were the ability to accept a detachable magazine, folding/telescoping stocks, separate pistol grips, ability to accept a bayonet, flash suppressors, bipods, grenade launchers, and night sights. NOTEThe exception for this criteria is curios and relics in their original military configuration i.e. the Yugoslavian SKS 59/66. Yugoslavian SKS 59/66 rifles can be modified by removing offending features (as in the State of California) but not adding features. Determinations regarding the suitability for sporting purposes are made on a case-by-case base and often will require review by the Firearms Technology Branch. Rifles that are prohibited from importations include: 1. Semiautomatic versions of machineguns 2. Rifles chambered to accept a centerfire cartridge case having a length of 2.25 inches or less (includes .223 and 7.62 X 39); AND 3. Rifles that have the ability to accept a detachable large capacity magazine originally designed and produced for a military assault rifle or be easily modified to accept such a magazine with only minor adjustments to the rifle. Non-sporting features may be removed from SKS and AK type rifles without violating 922®, i.e. bayonet, bayonet lug, bipod, grenade launcher, flash suppressor, and night sight. Any additions to SKS and AK type rifles would make them nonsporting firearms that would be in violation of 922®. These additions include: replacing the thumbhole stock with a pistol grip and military style stock and/or modifying the firearm to accept a high capacity magazine. In order to modify SKS or AK type rifles and avoid any violations of 922®, you will have to replace the foreign parts, except for 10, with U.S.-made parts. As previously stated, no more than 10 of the above 20 foreign parts can be installed after the modification. You can remove the Night Sights, Grenade Launcher, Grenade Launcher Sight, Bayonet, and Bayonet lug without repercussion as removal of items has no bearing under Federal law." Your proposal makes the following changes: (1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings, or castings. (2) Barrels. (3) Barrel extensions. None on SKS (4) Mounting blocks (trunnions). None on SKS (5) Muzzle attachments. Removed (6) Bolts. (7) Bolt carriers. (8) Operating rods. None on SKS (9) Gas pistons. Replaced with US part (10) Trigger housings. (11) Triggers. (12) Hammers. (13) Sears. (14) Disconnectors. (15) Buttstocks. Replaced with US part (16) Pistol grips. None on SKS (17) Forearms, handguards. Replaced with US part (18) Magazine bodies. Replaced with US part (19) Followers. Replaced with US part (20) Floor plates. Replaced with US part The resulting firearm would have items 1, 2, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14 Since the proposed rifle would only have 9 imported parts, the modifications would be legal under Federal law." If you have any further questions, please call them on 304-260-1700. __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

01-09-2008, 08:30 AM	#15
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 1,888 Trader Rating: (0)	Wow, Moose. They actually gave you a more or less intelligable reply to your question and took the time to check over what you proposed to do. Impressive. So, If I want to replace the bayonet with a bipod and put on a new receiver cover with a scope, the BATFE would not have a problem with those mods. That's reassuring. Off topic, but a quick question. The bayonet is held in the bayonet lug by one screw. How much force should I have to apply to get that screw out so I can mount the bipod? I definitely don't want to damage it, but when I tried it with my big Craftsman screwdriver that fits the slot it wouldn't budge.

01-09-2008, 09:50 AM	#16
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,183 Trader Rating: (0)	That screw is staked, so it is a real pain to remove. I use an Impact driver (Handheld) and hammer to remove those screws. Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!