Slam Fire

SwedeSteve · 07-06-2008, 01:22 AM

^^^ pahsketty, ROFL !! How my son yoused to say it !!

GlockMeister · 07-06-2008, 01:33 AM

I got to thinking of something and felt I should express it here.

Althjough I've never had one happen to me as of yet, and with the new firing pin and spring kit from Murray's I put in the Yugo SKS, I shouldn't have top worry about it either. Don't know about the Romanian yet.

But, with what happened to that poor guy, the National Guardsmen that was a instructor, and after hearing what happened to him from simply loaning a rifle to someone to train with and a part breaking and causing it to fire in full auto, I personally would hate to have a slamfire happen and have a cop or some other individual there hear/observe it and call on me and me go through what they did, all because of something I could have prevented.

I mean from what I read with that situation, even though everyone knew a part broke, the guy still got screwed, and screwed big time. Most know of these slamfires now. I would think that still wouldn't matter, one could still get screwed the same, and personally, I'd rather not take a chance. Anything can happen at anytime, and if I can prevent it, you get bet your sweet arse I'm gonna...

If spending roughly $40 bucks prevents a slamfire from happening and me from ever having to go through what that guy did, IT'S WELL WORTH IT and DAMN GOOD MONEY SPENT!!!

GlockMeister · 07-06-2008, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

^^^ pahsketty, ROFL !! How my son yoused to say it !!

I think how just about every little kid, us included if we asked our parents if they're still around, has said it. I'm pretty sure I did and I know my kids said it that way. Gotta love those kind of memories.

Pahsketty was one. Anuminum was another. Anyone have any others they can think of or remember?

SwedeSteve · 07-06-2008, 02:28 AM

CrapaCrunch.....My younger brother.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 07-06-2008, 04:01 PM

ChipSkunks - My nephew.

M14man · 07-06-2008, 04:44 PM

I have six SKS's and am not about to install that stuff in every bolt. Out of the thousands of rounds thru the SKS's, I had one double. If you super clean the bolt, you will minimize it. These were combat guns and they weren't in the least concerned that a gun may double. Practice safe range habits, and put in only 2-3 rds the first few times when you first test ANY semi auto. There are people who get a cosmo gun, wipe it, spray a little cleaner and go to town. Then they plop in a 10 rd clip and test. They are an accident waiting for a place to happen.

SwedeSteve · 07-06-2008, 05:36 PM

I most definitely agree with M14. I have seen Mosin's at the range with cosmo everywhere. SKS's do not have to be really dirty for the firing pin to stick though. Some exceptionally dirty-firing ammo is all it takes on a long day at the range. As my son, and soon my grandson's will be firing my SKS, I just feel more comfortable knowing that this is one less safety issue to be concerned about.

toolman · 07-06-2008, 07:16 PM

I'm not sure about any of the others, but the later Chi-Coms have a lightening cut in the side of bolt to reduce the mass and minimize slamfires.

marion57 · 07-06-2008, 07:27 PM

I have a chance to purchase two chinese SKS's one with folding stopck and the other with a poly stock plus original wood stock , Two scopes and mounts( Reciever mount), 1000 rounds of FMJ (dont know what brand)
For 425.00 bucks what do you think? I am going to see them tuesday but am inclined to buy them ..I have several other rifles am going to sell soon so money wont be the deciding factor tho important ..

toolman · 07-06-2008, 07:29 PM

Not a bad price compared to what the avg. price is now. I consider the ChiCom's to be the best shooters although I know some will say otherwise. Do they still have factory mags or aftermarket?

marion57 · 07-06-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by toolman

Not a bad price compared to what the avg. price is now. I consider the ChiCom's to be the best shooters although I know some will say otherwise. Do they still have factory mags or aftermarket?

factory mags and I think he has a couple of 20 round mags

jmp8927 · 07-06-2008, 07:58 PM

^I'd buy it in a heartbeat considering what ammo is going for these days. That's less than $150 for each SKS.

jack007 · 07-06-2008, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlockMeister

I got to thinking of something and felt I should express it here.

Althjough I've never had one happen to me as of yet, and with the new firing pin and spring kit from Murray's I put in the Yugo SKS, I shouldn't have top worry about it either. Don't know about the Romanian yet.

But, with what happened to that poor guy, the National Guardsmen that was a instructor, and after hearing what happened to him from simply loaning a rifle to someone to train with and a part breaking and causing it to fire in full auto, I personally would hate to have a slamfire happen and have a cop or some other individual there hear/observe it and call on me and me go through what they did, all because of something I could have prevented.

I mean from what I read with that situation, even though everyone knew a part broke, the guy still got screwed, and screwed big time. Most know of these slamfires now. I would think that still wouldn't matter, one could still get screwed the same, and personally, I'd rather not take a chance. Anything can happen at anytime, and if I can prevent it, you get bet your sweet arse I'm gonna...

If spending roughly $40 bucks prevents a slamfire from happening and me from ever having to go through what that guy did, IT'S WELL WORTH IT and DAMN GOOD MONEY SPENT!!!

Don't guess I know what happened to this guy but it sounds bad.

Pope130 · 07-06-2008, 11:32 PM

Murray's Gunsmithing www.murraysguns.com deals with the slamfire problem. They sell a firing pin with return spring to be installed in an altered bolt. This effectively returns it to the original configuration.

I haven't installed this mod yet, so can't give an opinion on it's effectiveness. However an interesting presentation on the site, and what looks like a sensible solution.

GlockMeister · 07-06-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt'n Mil Coll

ChipSkunks - My nephew.

Humor me, ChipSkinks for which word? lol

gandog56 · 07-07-2008, 01:19 AM

For chipmonks?

lunchbox99 · 07-07-2008, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marion57

I have a chance to purchase two chinese SKS's one with folding stopck and the other with a poly stock plus original wood stock , Two scopes and mounts( Reciever mount), 1000 rounds of FMJ (dont know what brand)
For 425.00 bucks what do you think? I am going to see them tuesday but am inclined to buy them ..I have several other rifles am going to sell soon so money wont be the deciding factor tho important ..

Sound good to me marion. I cant find rounds for under twenty cents round so (uhh math) 200.00 in rounds - 425 - 200= 225/2 = 112.50 a rifle.(i think)

marion57 · 07-07-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gandog56

For chipmonks?

Do Chip Monks shave their heads?

collector1948 · 07-07-2008, 12:58 PM

I did the Murray mod in mine, just to be sure I didn't have a slamfire. It was a easy fix. Does any one know what the outcome of that "Slamfire Incident" was ?

GlockMeister · 07-07-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by collector1948

I did the Murray mod in mine, just to be sure I didn't have a slamfire. It was a easy fix. Does any one know what the outcome of that "Slamfire Incident" was ?

<<< ME 2. Better safe then sorry I say...

Which slam fire incident do you speak of? The one with the National Guard instructor and the AR15? If so, he lost his job, all his retirement and is going to or is in jail, last I heard. Or was/is appealing it all. But they went after him full force, even knowing it was a part that broke that caused it all. They didn't care either way...

If that isn't the "incident" you're speaking of, I haven't a clue then...

07-06-2008, 01:22 AM	#21
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,576 Images: 1	^^^ pahsketty, ROFL !! How my son yoused to say it !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers Last edited by SwedeSteve; 07-06-2008 at 01:34 AM.

07-06-2008, 01:33 AM	#22
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,676	I got to thinking of something and felt I should express it here. Althjough I've never had one happen to me as of yet, and with the new firing pin and spring kit from Murray's I put in the Yugo SKS, I shouldn't have top worry about it either. Don't know about the Romanian yet. But, with what happened to that poor guy, the National Guardsmen that was a instructor, and after hearing what happened to him from simply loaning a rifle to someone to train with and a part breaking and causing it to fire in full auto, I personally would hate to have a slamfire happen and have a cop or some other individual there hear/observe it and call on me and me go through what they did, all because of something I could have prevented. I mean from what I read with that situation, even though everyone knew a part broke, the guy still got screwed, and screwed big time. Most know of these slamfires now. I would think that still wouldn't matter, one could still get screwed the same, and personally, I'd rather not take a chance. Anything can happen at anytime, and if I can prevent it, you get bet your sweet arse I'm gonna... If spending roughly $40 bucks prevents a slamfire from happening and me from ever having to go through what that guy did, IT'S WELL WORTH IT and DAMN GOOD MONEY SPENT!!! __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

07-06-2008, 02:28 AM	#24
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,576 Images: 1	CrapaCrunch.....My younger brother. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

07-06-2008, 04:01 PM	#25
Capt'n Mil Coll Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 3,390 Images: 45	ChipSkunks - My nephew. __________________ Let's light this fuse and see what happens!

07-06-2008, 05:36 PM	#27
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,576 Images: 1	I most definitely agree with M14. I have seen Mosin's at the range with cosmo everywhere. SKS's do not have to be really dirty for the firing pin to stick though. Some exceptionally dirty-firing ammo is all it takes on a long day at the range. As my son, and soon my grandson's will be firing my SKS, I just feel more comfortable knowing that this is one less safety issue to be concerned about. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

07-06-2008, 04:44 PM	#26
M14man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 1,162 Images: 10	I have six SKS's and am not about to install that stuff in every bolt. Out of the thousands of rounds thru the SKS's, I had one double. If you super clean the bolt, you will minimize it. These were combat guns and they weren't in the least concerned that a gun may double. Practice safe range habits, and put in only 2-3 rds the first few times when you first test ANY semi auto. There are people who get a cosmo gun, wipe it, spray a little cleaner and go to town. Then they plop in a 10 rd clip and test. They are an accident waiting for a place to happen.

07-06-2008, 07:16 PM	#28
toolman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 7,135 Blog Entries: 25	I'm not sure about any of the others, but the later Chi-Coms have a lightening cut in the side of bolt to reduce the mass and minimize slamfires. __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

07-06-2008, 07:27 PM	#29
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 3,620	good deal?? I have a chance to purchase two chinese SKS's one with folding stopck and the other with a poly stock plus original wood stock , Two scopes and mounts( Reciever mount), 1000 rounds of FMJ (dont know what brand) For 425.00 bucks what do you think? I am going to see them tuesday but am inclined to buy them ..I have several other rifles am going to sell soon so money wont be the deciding factor tho important .. __________________ You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers Please Mr Custer I dont wanna go

07-06-2008, 07:29 PM	#30
toolman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 7,135 Blog Entries: 25	Not a bad price compared to what the avg. price is now. I consider the ChiCom's to be the best shooters although I know some will say otherwise. Do they still have factory mags or aftermarket? __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

07-06-2008, 07:58 PM	#32
jmp8927 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Walterboro, SC Posts: 2,277 Images: 18	^I'd buy it in a heartbeat considering what ammo is going for these days. That's less than $150 for each SKS. __________________ Fear not, for I am with you; Be not discouraged, for I am your God.

07-06-2008, 11:32 PM	#34
Pope130 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 314	Murray's Gunsmithing www.murraysguns.com deals with the slamfire problem. They sell a firing pin with return spring to be installed in an altered bolt. This effectively returns it to the original configuration. I haven't installed this mod yet, so can't give an opinion on it's effectiveness. However an interesting presentation on the site, and what looks like a sensible solution.

07-07-2008, 01:19 AM	#36
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 11,797	For chipmonks?

07-07-2008, 12:58 PM	#39
collector1948 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: under the radar Posts: 58	I did the Murray mod in mine, just to be sure I didn't have a slamfire. It was a easy fix. Does any one know what the outcome of that "Slamfire Incident" was ?