Slam Fire

TheTroll · 07-13-2008, 12:38 AM

that doesnt sound like a safe range. With an illegal alien range officer hole in roof. Makes me glad to have a range in my back yard.

toolman · 07-13-2008, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

No, the point is that it slamfired.

David, the slamfire was an unintended consequence. Our point is, you should always be prepared for the unexpected. Who knows where that bullet landed, maybe in someone's home?
This is the bible for gunowners:
NRA Gun Safety Rules

wunhunglo · 07-13-2008, 01:53 AM

I think that Billy's signature applies here; "no matter how responsible he appears, you shouldn't trust a monkey with a gun"!

Negligent on at least two counts!!!

David, I would like to think that you had learned from your mistakes but from your responses, I very much doubt it!

gandog56 · 07-13-2008, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

No, the point is that it slamfired.

You just don't get it, do you? IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT SLAMFIRED! All loaded weapons should be pointed in a safe direction, of which up is not one of them.

texnmidwest · 07-13-2008, 08:34 AM

David · 07-13-2008, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandog56

You just don't get it, do you? IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT SLAMFIRED! All loaded weapons should be pointed in a safe direction, of which up is not one of them.

Better up than at somebody, and what do you mean it doesn't matter if it slamfired this thread is about SLAMFIRES.

David · 07-13-2008, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toolman

David, the slamfire was an unintended consequence. Our point is, you should always be prepared for the unexpected. Who knows where that bullet landed, maybe in someone's home?
This is the bible for gunowners:
NRA Gun Safety Rules

The nearest home was about 15 miles away, i'm positive it landed in a field somwhere.

David · 07-13-2008, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wunhunglo

I think that Billy's signature applies here; "no matter how responsible he appears, you shouldn't trust a monkey with a gun"!

Negligent on at least two counts!!!

David, I would like to think that you had learned from your mistakes but from your responses, I very much doubt it!

So from my responses you gathered that I go around shooting holes in roofs all the time? And its no matter how responsible he SEEMS.

K75RT · 07-13-2008, 08:27 PM

When I was in Gunsmith school at the Colorado Gunsmithing Academy of Lamar in Lamar, Colorado, one of my instructors was working on this problem for a lawyer as a professional witness. What we found was that the all of the military 762X39 was ok; the commercial ammo had soft primers that could be set off when the bolt was slammed with extreme force. We never had a slam fire but several of the primers were marked with the firing pin's force. I'm not sure what the instructor felt abot the dimples on the primers but my guess is he thinks it could lead to a slam fire....

Pope130 · 07-13-2008, 10:28 PM

Received the Murray's kit yesterday. Very nicely machined, clear instructions. Five minutes to install. I'm very pleased.

Now I'll have to run a couple of hundred rounds through to verify function!

gandog56 · 07-13-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pope130

Received the Murray's kit yesterday. Very nicely machined, clear instructions. Five minutes to install. I'm very pleased.

Now I'll have to run a couple of hundred rounds through to verify function!

Sounds like too much trouble. Just send the SKS to me, and a few hundred rounds of ammo, and return shipping money, and I'll take care of it for you.

marion57 · 07-14-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by gandog56

Sounds like too much trouble. Just send the SKS to me, and a few hundred rounds of ammo, and return shipping money, and I'll take care of it for you.

you are so nice Gandog to do that for him LOL

TheTroll · 07-14-2008, 12:32 AM

I think that it would be better if the bullet went down range instead of up.

David · 07-14-2008, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheTroll

I think that it would be better if the bullet went down range instead of up.

In this case it didn't matter.

wunhunglo · 07-14-2008, 01:34 AM

David,

You still don't get it do you? It is not safe to fire a round up into the air, what goes up must come down, sometime, somewhere and if Murphy's law kicks in, on somebody. When useing a firearm, it should be pointed in a safe direction At All Times. Just in case of this situation. When on a range, that safe direction is downrange, preferably no more than in the horizontal position.
Your gun handling was Negligent! You would not be permitted on any properly supervised ranges I know of; and if in the military(British anyway) probably on a charge for negligence.

I suggest, you get rid of the "Attitude" and attend a firearms safety course before you kill or injure somebody!

marion57 · 07-14-2008, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wunhunglo

David,

You still don't get it do you? It is not safe to fire a round up into the air, what goes up must come down, sometime, somewhere and if Murphy's law kicks in, on somebody. When useing a firearm, it should be pointed in a safe direction At All Times. Just in case of this situation. When on a range, that safe direction is downrange, preferably no more than in the horizontal position.
Your gun handling was Negligent! You would not be permitted on any properly supervised ranges I know of; and if in the military(British anyway) probably on a charge for negligence.

I suggest, you get rid of the "Attitude" and attend a firearms safety course before you kill or injure somebody!

+1

gandog56 · 07-14-2008, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

In this case it didn't matter.

I'm still trying to think why you would think that. There's a hole in the roof! Some poor slob will be sitting there on a rainy day getting dripped on.

wunhunglo · 07-14-2008, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandog56

I'm still trying to think why you would think that. There's a hole in the roof! Some poor slob will be sitting there on a rainy day getting dripped on.

+1 on that, nobody likes getting "dripped" on!

David · 07-14-2008, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wunhunglo

David,

You still don't get it do you? It is not safe to fire a round up into the air, what goes up must come down, sometime, somewhere and if Murphy's law kicks in, on somebody. When useing a firearm, it should be pointed in a safe direction At All Times. Just in case of this situation. When on a range, that safe direction is downrange, preferably no more than in the horizontal position.
Your gun handling was Negligent! You would not be permitted on any properly supervised ranges I know of; and if in the military(British anyway) probably on a charge for negligence.

I suggest, you get rid of the "Attitude" and attend a firearms safety course before you kill or injure somebody!

So what your saying is that when I fired up it was guaranteed to fall on somebody? This range is out in the middle on nowhere, theres no one around for it to fall on. If I was in an indoor range or one where the population was denser I would have had it pointed downrange the entire time, but I wasn't so it doesn't matter.

David · 07-14-2008, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandog56

I'm still trying to think why you would think that. There's a hole in the roof! Some poor slob will be sitting there on a rainy day getting dripped on.

How about that poor slob moves over?

07-13-2008, 08:34 AM	#85
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07-13-2008, 12:38 AM	#81
TheTroll Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Under a bridge somewhere in Ohio Posts: 491	that doesnt sound like a safe range. With an illegal alien range officer hole in roof. Makes me glad to have a range in my back yard.

07-13-2008, 01:53 AM	#83
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 4,102	I think that Billy's signature applies here; "no matter how responsible he appears, you shouldn't trust a monkey with a gun"! Negligent on at least two counts!!! David, I would like to think that you had learned from your mistakes but from your responses, I very much doubt it!

07-13-2008, 08:27 PM	#89
K75RT Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Litchfield County, Connecticut Posts: 625	When I was in Gunsmith school at the Colorado Gunsmithing Academy of Lamar in Lamar, Colorado, one of my instructors was working on this problem for a lawyer as a professional witness. What we found was that the all of the military 762X39 was ok; the commercial ammo had soft primers that could be set off when the bolt was slammed with extreme force. We never had a slam fire but several of the primers were marked with the firing pin's force. I'm not sure what the instructor felt abot the dimples on the primers but my guess is he thinks it could lead to a slam fire....

07-13-2008, 10:28 PM	#90
Pope130 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 314	Received the Murray's kit yesterday. Very nicely machined, clear instructions. Five minutes to install. I'm very pleased. Now I'll have to run a couple of hundred rounds through to verify function!

07-14-2008, 12:32 AM	#93
TheTroll Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Under a bridge somewhere in Ohio Posts: 491	I think that it would be better if the bullet went down range instead of up.

07-14-2008, 01:34 AM	#95
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 4,102	David, You still don't get it do you? It is not safe to fire a round up into the air, what goes up must come down, sometime, somewhere and if Murphy's law kicks in, on somebody. When useing a firearm, it should be pointed in a safe direction At All Times. Just in case of this situation. When on a range, that safe direction is downrange, preferably no more than in the horizontal position. Your gun handling was Negligent! You would not be permitted on any properly supervised ranges I know of; and if in the military(British anyway) probably on a charge for negligence. I suggest, you get rid of the "Attitude" and attend a firearms safety course before you kill or injure somebody!