Tapco

[Acog74]

I just finished with my yugo putting a tapco t6 with 20 round mag and a NC Star scope and mount.

[res45]

You just need to add two more parts now to be 922 compliant with the BATF,unless you have already gotten the handguard and long gas piston that would do it.

[Acog74]

huh! whats that

[SwedeSteve]

Disregard. 922r only deals with importation and manufacturing.

[res45]

This should not be construed as professional legal advice. This is accumulated information drawn form letters written to and replies received from the BATF. In ones own case you should precede with caution when removing and adding parts and forward any question on the subject to the BAFT.

Disregard. 922r only deals with importation and manufacturing.

I beg to differ,once you remove any of the 15 compliant parts specified by the BATF on a YUGO SKS you fall under 922r compliance/manufacturing of a firearm,the stock is one of those parts. On a YUGO M59/66 ( 15 parts rifle) you have to remove 5 of the original parts and replace them with 5 US MADE parts,floor plate doesn't count because on any SKS with a 10 Rd. fixed mag it doesn't have a floorplate. On a Chinese (14 parts rifle) you have to replace 4 of the original parts with 4 USA made parts. You have to end up with 10 or less original parts once you remove one of the original parts.

On replacing parts you cannot add a part that is not on the original rifle and call it a replacement US MADE part.

Here are the relevant parts in an SKS Carbine:
1. Receiver
2. Barrel
3. Bolt
4. Bolt carrier
5. Gas piston
6. Trigger housing
7. Trigger
8. Hammer
9. Sear
10. Disconnector /According to ATF. the part that aligns the trigger bar with the sear, is considered to be the disconnector for 922(r) purposes.
11. Stock
12. Handguard/the wood or plastic part.not the gas tube itself.
13. Magazine body
14. Follower
15. Muzzle Brake (YUGO M59/66 only )

Chinese SKS carbine, in its original military configuration, does not contain the following parts. I assume this applies to the YUGO also since it doesn't contain any of these parts either.
1. Barrel extension.
2. Mounting block (trunnion).
3. Operating rod. Or the short rod under the rear sight housing,the ATF's list does not include this part
4. Pistol grip.
5. Floorplate. The “floorplate” is built into the magazine body on a standard fixed magazine SKS Carbine. Note that creating an SKS Carbine with “10-or-less” imported parts typically involves replacing the entire magazine assembly; only two imported parts are removed. The SKS D and SKS M utilize AK-style magazines. On these magazines, the “floorplate” is not built into the magazine body. Thus, SKS D and SKS M have an additional imported part. This is where the 3 parts count on the tapco mags comes into play

For any further question on this subject lots of info here www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?board=12.0

[SwedeSteve]

He put a new US made stock on it. How is it now not 922r compliant??

(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.

[res45]

Because once you remove one of the original IMPORTED PARTS then you have to add enough US MADE PARTS to bring the number of original IMPORTED PARTS on the rifle down to 10. It's not about how many your add or change it how many you end up with once you start. Once the rifle is finished it has to have 10 or less of the original parts on it to comply with 922r. Less than or 10 is fine more than 10 you have an illegally Mfg. rifle. thats not me saying that thats the BATF.

[lunchbox99]

I have read bout those laws I don't get it you want to change to a monti carlo stock you are now a criminal???? Y am I even allowed to add a screw on butt plate to get it a little longer??? the laws some make up to protect us

[res45]

You can add a extended buttplate,Scope/mounts,different sights. It's not about what you add to the original rifle it's about what you take off. As long as you don't remove one of the listed original parts then you don't have to play the 10 or less game and your not illegal. So your buttplate is fine.

Any questions just email eps@atf.gov they will be glad to answer any question you have concerning proposed changes you have to your imported semi-auto rifles.

[SwedeSteve]

Where in 922 does it say if you replace a stock on a Yugo, that you then have to meet 922r compliance ?? I am not assembling a gun from parts.

[res45]

SwedeSteve,honestly not trying to be a Smart A's here or a Mr. Know it All. Once your remove one of the relevant parts ie stock being one of those from a YUGO SKS it looses it C&R status,it is no longer in it original configuration and thus fall under the 922 compliance laws. Thats why you then have to play the 10 or less game.

If you drought this write the BATF or go here SKS Legal Issues Post a simple question like,If I replace the original wooden stock on my YUGO SKS with a Tapco T6 do I then fall under 922 compliance laws it shouldn't take you very long to get an answer. And there are quiet a few post on that already that covers the question or questions at hand including letter written by the BATF to the various board member about specific questions such as this.

If you notice Tapco calls all there replacement SKS parts compliant parts that should be a clue. They even have one called the compliance kit to give you all the parts you need in one group. TAPCO-World's finest shooting and military gear -

[SwedeSteve]

I understand all that you have stated. Yet you cannot go to 18 USC 922 and show me where it says that. So, where does it say I must be 922r compliant ??

[res45]

TAPCO-World's finest shooting and military gear - Section 992R

Part #15

[SwedeSteve]

That's not 18 USC 922.

This should not be construed as professional legal advice. This is accumulated information drawn form letters written to and replies received from the BATF. In ones own case you should precede with caution when removing and adding parts and forward any question on the subject to the BAFT.

On Tapco's site:
Disclaimer: This is an attempt to interpret this law. Information taken from this context should not be considered permission to manufacture semiautomatic rifles.

[res45]

Well the ball is in your court now,I suggest that you write the BATF for the answer to your question maybe you will believe them.

[SwedeSteve]

I didn't say that I didn't believe you !! I just asked you to show me where it says it within 18 USC.

[res45]

I wrote the BATF about 5 min. ago about the specifics of this question I will post there return letter when I receive it. This is a stickies from your own board. http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/sks...hat-takes.html (Sticky submission: SKS legalities - What you can change and what it takes)

[SwedeSteve]

Again, I don't disagree with you or BRG. I just want someone to show me where it says it in 18 USC. Emailing the ATF will not get you a Legal Determination, you must do so in writing. I have written them on a different issue, requesting a LD from them.

[res45]

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922r
Sec. 178.39 Assembly of semiautomatic rifles or shotguns.

(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun
using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this
section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under
section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily
adaptable to sporting purposes.
(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to:
(1) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution
by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or
agency thereof or to any State or any department, agency, or political
subdivision thereof; or
(2) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of
testing or experimentation authorized by the Director under the
provisions of Sec. 178.151; or
(3) The repair of any rifle or shotgun which had been imported into
or assembled in the United States prior to November 30, 1990, or the
replacement of any part of such firearm.
(c) For purposes of this section, the term imported parts are:

(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates

[SwedeSteve]

(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun
using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this
section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under
section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily
adaptable to sporting purposes.

I am not assembling a rifle from parts. I am simply changing the stock. I could understand if I was doing an AK47 build where this would come into play

Acog74- If res45 were correct in his assumption, then his first post stating that you needed just two more compliant parts would be incorrect. A SKS has a total of 18 parts according to his given info. The stock and magazine would count as 4 parts. And only if they were US made, and the magazine has a floorplate. Buying 2 more compliant parts would only bring you to 12 foreign parts and you would still not be compliant. Not that it is relevant in my comprehension of 18 USC, 922 !!