Thanks for that link, it cleared it up completely for me. So all we need to swap is 4 for a non-Yugo, and 5 for the Yugo. Or in my case, lop off the muzzle attachment and change 4 more on the Yugo and I am good to go.
And, just in case I am missing it, the stock and handguard = 2, and the magazine including follower is 2 more. How simple is that?
I'll read that info in more depth later, but for now this is what I am getting out of the info. Sound right to you sv_libertarian?
Or in my case, lop off the muzzle attachment and change 4 more on the Yugo and I am good to go.
conradwojo If i understand you correctly your assuming you can just loop off the grenade launcher section of the Yugo barrel like it never existed and not have to count and replace it with another US made part.
This would not be correct,you still have to replace 5 parts on the Yugo because the grenade launcher existed on the rifle to begin with,even though it's not there anymore it still counts as an original compliant part.
You can't cut off an original compliant part from a 15 part rifle and make it a 14 part rifle and then use the 10 or less parts formula.
I am not from Missuouri but I need you to show me where that is. As I read the law it says we are technically re-manufacturing a "new" firearm from parts and the total number of imported parts must be 10 or less. I saw nothing that says an unnecessary part that was removed must be replaced with something else. My Yugo barrel is being shortened and will have no threads to mount anything on it when done. So I will need to know this asap. Thanks.
I don't know if I would call the grenade launcher an unnecessary parts since it's one of the compliant parts on the Yugo rifle. You can't just whack it off and call it a day since your removing a compliant part. My only concern is the 10 or less parts count pertains to the rifles original configuration and are you require to replace 5 parts on the Yugo because it originally had 15 parts. I can see in a technical sense when the less would be considered as cutting that part off,being the Yugo is the only SKS you can do that with,who know how the BATF sees that I never try to assume what they think. One thing is for sure once you make the cut you can never put it back into original configuration and obtain it C & R status.
Since the grenade launcher removal causes the rifle to loose it's C&R status you will also need to remove the bayo and night sights if the rifle has them,and make sure the barrel is no shorter than 16" you can check this by inserting a wooden dowel into the bore with the bolt closed and measuring to the end of the barrel.
Hope your project turns out well and the barrel cut and new crown job is well done.
I don't know if I would call the grenade launcher an unnecessary parts since it's one of the compliant parts on the Yugo rifle. You can't just whack it off and call it a day since your removing a compliant part. My only concern is the 10 or less parts count pertains to the rifles original configuration and are you require to replace 5 parts on the Yugo because it originally had 15 parts. I can see in a technical sense when the less would be considered as cutting that part off,being the Yugo is the only SKS you can do that with,who know how the BATF sees that I never try to assume what they think. One thing is for sure once you make the cut you can never put it back into original configuration and obtain it C & R status.
Since the grenade launcher removal causes the rifle to loose it's C&R status you will also need to remove the bayo and night sights if the rifle has them,and make sure the barrel is no shorter than 16" you can check this by inserting a wooden dowel into the bore with the bolt closed and measuring to the end of the barrel.
Hope your project turns out well and the barrel cut and new crown job is well done.
Well all he would have to do is instead of adding a 922(r) compliant muzzle device in place of the grenade spigot he'd have to change another part. From what he and I have talked about he is going to get a new stock and hanguard so that's 2 and then he's going to get a sear, hammer, trigger kit and it is all 922(r) compliant. So that's 5 parts for his Yugo. The Yugo barrel correct me if I'm wrong is longer than the Norinco/Russian barrel so lopping off the barrel at or before the beginning of the threads would keep it within legal length requirements.
As for taking away it's C&R status....WHO CARES?!?!
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As long as you are not buying the rifle useing a C&R licences, the c&r guide lines dont apply to the rifle... but, if you have a C&R license and bought an sks, then you are not aloud to modify the rifle in anyway, shape or form. The rifle has to stay in its original configuration, if not you violate federal law.
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No Laramus, the Yugo 59/66 would not have been allowed for importation normally due to the launcher, but with C&R status it came in. Lose the launcher and you lose C&R status because it is no longer in it's original military configuration. Now the ATF allows the temporary removal of the launcher and/or bayo for "shooting purposes" but if you want to keep it off permanently, you have to play the 922(r) game.
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Getting back to the Tapco 20 rounder, I tried putting one in my Yugo. It did NOT work well. I put back the original mag and sold the Tapco to someone else (And yes, I told him exactly why I was selling it)
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Two parts, stock counts as 1 and handguard counts as 1. The pistol grip doesn't count because the 10 rd fixed mag SKS never had one to begin with. The whole parts count deal is about taking off original imported parts and replacing them with a US made parts so that when all is said and done you only have 10 of the original imported parts on your rifle.
Adding a part such as a pistol grip which doesn't even apply to SKS rifle as long as it legal to do so in your jurisdiction neither hurts or help you towards the parts count. The same goes for the floor plate on the Tapco mag. scope mounts, different types of sights or putting a muzzle brake on a SKS that doesn't have one which is anything other than a Yugo M59/66. If it's not there originally it's of no consequence.