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Old 08-10-2011, 12:21 PM   #1
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38 S&W Special CTG

I recently inherited a gun from my grandfather. On the right side of the barrel it say "38 S, & W. Special CTG". on the left side of the gun it has the S&W trade mark located right above the trigger. I am trying to find out what model and about what year it was made. also i want to find out what the frame is so i can replace the grips. the serial number is 642###. any information will be helpful and thanks for everything

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Old 08-10-2011, 12:50 PM   #2
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if u need more details let me know
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:16 PM   #3
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Hi, and welcome to Guns & Game!

Pictures! We need pictures! If for no other reason
than to ogle and drool.

A first guess, out of the blue, would be a model 10 M&P,
which would be a "K" frame.

Need a photo or two to verify!


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Old 08-10-2011, 01:19 PM   #4
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Open the cylinder and look at the frame inside the crane. What numbers are there? Pictures would help a lot.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:34 PM   #5
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49502 is the number inside the crane and ill add some pictures asap thanks
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:51 PM   #6
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for some reason I'm having a problem uploading images but also i found on the frame of the handle it say "C.P.D. No. 821" and on the top of the barrel it say "SMITH & WESSON SPRINGFIELD MASS U.S.A. PATENTED FEB 6.06. SEPT.14.09.DEC.29.14"


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Old 08-10-2011, 06:26 PM   #9
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The 38 S&W cartridge is essentially what the British called .38/200 or sometimes called .38 Short. The bullet is a true .38 caliber, unlike the .38 special which is .357 in diameter. My father had a .38/200 Smith & Wesson "Lend-Lease" service revolver that was shipped to Great Britain by the United States as part of a massive foreign aid package that included everything from ships, aircraft and tanks to small arms and field equipment.

My father was in an American unit that was formed overseas very early in the war so their weapons were a mixture of '03 service rifles retrieved from U.S embassies in occupied Europe and British supplied sidearms. The Brits asked that the medium frame Smith & Wesson -- what would later be designated as the Smith & Wesson Model 10 -- to be built with a 5" narrow barrel, deep blue finish, and diamond checkered walnut grips and blued lanyard ring.

When America entered World War II, the War Department continued to furnish Great Britain with that same revolver in .38/200 while making a similar version with 4" narrow barrel, Parkerized finish and a .38 special chambering as an augment sidearm for American forces. The American version was referred to as the "Victory Model" and some 900,000 of them were made. Many servicemen that had .38/200 "Lend-Lease" service revolvers brought them home after the war since they were not officially in the U.S. inventory. My father had his and carried it with him during my growing up years until the late 60s when it was stolen from the house by a drifter.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:56 PM   #10
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Great post SNS,very informative.I'm thinking about getting a Webley and was wondering what your thoughts were on them.Here's an example:


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Quote:       Originally Posted by jason1965 View Post
Great post SNS,very informative.I'm thinking about getting a Webley and was wondering what your thoughts were on them.Here's an example:


Allan's Armory - 190306EN PICTURES
They were supposed to be tough and reliable service revolvers built much like their bigger .455 cousins. I am curious to know available .38/200 ammo is on the market and whether it is cheap - or expensive, reloadable or non-reloadable. They look like fun guns to shoot and they can carry their own weight as security guns for the house. I believe that they were standard issue and alternate issue in the British armed forces even after World War II and into the early 1960s.
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