Model 19

jtuck · 04-15-2008, 01:20 PM

I have a S&W Model 19 in .357, that I absolutely love. Recently, it has started not firing at certain times. At first I thought maybe one of the cylinders was worn too deep, or something similar. After I started paying attention though, its not always on the same cylinder, it happens more often when firing double action (about 3/6 shots) than single (1/6), and it doesn't matter if I'm shooting factory loads or reloads. Would this be a firing pin issue?

I might add that this pistol has probably had 3,000-4,000 rounds down the barrel.

Silent Shooter · 04-15-2008, 01:32 PM

What do the primers look like???

jtuck · 04-15-2008, 03:57 PM

Slightly dented, you can tell the firing pin made some contact. If I was at home I would take a picture and upload. I will do that when I get home.

T.J. · 04-15-2008, 08:50 PM

new spring kit.

Mooseman684 · 04-15-2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtuck

Slightly dented, you can tell the firing pin made some contact. If I was at home I would take a picture and upload. I will do that when I get home.

Have a Gunsmith Measure the firing Pin and check The Bushing in the frame.
It may be a new firing pin is needed after that many rounds, it could be slightly bent as well....It is an easy fix.
Rich

madcratebuilder · 04-16-2008, 06:20 AM

Has the hammer spring screw on the bottom of the grip backed out? That would give you light strikes.

jtuck · 04-16-2008, 07:09 AM

Good call on the hammer spring screw. It had backed out about three full revolutions. I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but I will let you know when I do.

The original owners manual (which I have) calls this screw a strain screw. What's the purpose?

I'm thinking about refinishing this pistol. For its age and what it's been through (it was carried as an on and off duty gun for several years) it looks pretty good, but it could look better. Anything I should be aware or extra careful of when disassembling it?

Disregard the above post about the purpose of the screw, a little reading in the owners manual cleared that up. I'm such an idiot sometimes.

jtuck · 04-20-2008, 09:02 PM

Tightening that screw did the trick. I went out and shot some yesterday. Out of fifty rounds there were no light strikes. Thanks Madcratebuilder!

rondog · 04-20-2008, 09:46 PM

I used to own two of those, both 6", at two different times in my life. I swear they were freakin' twins, and the best damn pistols I've even owned. Paid $225 for each of 'em IIRC, from newspaper ads. <sniff> I still miss 'em....

madcratebuilder · 04-21-2008, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rondog

I used to own two of those, both 6", at two different times in my life. I swear they were freakin' twins, and the best damn pistols I've even owned. Paid $225 for each of 'em IIRC, from newspaper ads. <sniff> I still miss 'em....

You'll really cry when you see what they are going for today. Older S&W have turned into gold. I saw a m-15 with a 499 price tag the other day, m19's and m27's over 600 bucks, crazy.

jtuck · 04-21-2008, 09:41 AM

I didn't realize they were so valuable. I love mine. It was my grandpa's duty gun, then my dad carried it for a while. If I get a chance, I'll post some pics today. I like to take people out who have never shot before, and let 'em shoot that gun. It makes them feel really good.

jtuck · 04-21-2008, 10:52 AM

A little battle worn, but here it is. I've acutally been thinking about having it refinished. Does anybody know a good way to bleach those grips or clean them up? They are a little yellow from age.

madcratebuilder · 04-22-2008, 07:34 AM

DON"T TOUCH THE GRIPS!!!! The yellow aging is desirable. Nice looking m19. Being it's been in the family, I would try to document when your granddad bought it and who has carried it. Having a guns history is cool. There is a outfit that reblues and restanps S&W revolvers, great prices, $200 for a standard reblue. I'll post the www. when I find it. The grips add another $100+ to the value.

Ford's Custom Gun Refinishing
fair price, best work I have seen on restamping logo's and letters/numbers.

jtuck · 04-22-2008, 07:24 PM

I have the form filled out and waiting to be mailed to S&W. I am very interested to find out more about it. Thanks for all the tips!

You know I have two pistols that are the main ones I carry. My para is the one that carry to work every just cause they like us to have auto's but if I'm carrying off duty I like the 19.

04-15-2008, 01:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
jtuck Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 77	Model 19 I have a S&W Model 19 in .357, that I absolutely love. Recently, it has started not firing at certain times. At first I thought maybe one of the cylinders was worn too deep, or something similar. After I started paying attention though, its not always on the same cylinder, it happens more often when firing double action (about 3/6 shots) than single (1/6), and it doesn't matter if I'm shooting factory loads or reloads. Would this be a firing pin issue? I might add that this pistol has probably had 3,000-4,000 rounds down the barrel. Last edited by jtuck; 04-15-2008 at 01:21 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-15-2008, 01:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
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04-16-2008, 06:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 424	Has the hammer spring screw on the bottom of the grip backed out? That would give you light strikes. __________________ old white farts love preparing for the zombie apocalypse...

04-16-2008, 07:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
jtuck Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 77	Good call on the hammer spring screw. It had backed out about three full revolutions. I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but I will let you know when I do. The original owners manual (which I have) calls this screw a strain screw. What's the purpose? I'm thinking about refinishing this pistol. For its age and what it's been through (it was carried as an on and off duty gun for several years) it looks pretty good, but it could look better. Anything I should be aware or extra careful of when disassembling it? Disregard the above post about the purpose of the screw, a little reading in the owners manual cleared that up. I'm such an idiot sometimes. Last edited by jtuck; 04-16-2008 at 11:03 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-20-2008, 09:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 966	I used to own two of those, both 6", at two different times in my life. I swear they were freakin' twins, and the best damn pistols I've even owned. Paid $225 for each of 'em IIRC, from newspaper ads. <sniff> I still miss 'em.... __________________ What she doesn't know about, doesn't piss her off.....

04-15-2008, 03:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
jtuck Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 77	Slightly dented, you can tell the firing pin made some contact. If I was at home I would take a picture and upload. I will do that when I get home.

04-15-2008, 08:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
T.J. Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NW Ark Posts: 10	new spring kit.

04-20-2008, 09:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
jtuck Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 77	Tightening that screw did the trick. I went out and shot some yesterday. Out of fifty rounds there were no light strikes. Thanks Madcratebuilder!

04-21-2008, 09:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
jtuck Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 77	I didn't realize they were so valuable. I love mine. It was my grandpa's duty gun, then my dad carried it for a while. If I get a chance, I'll post some pics today. I like to take people out who have never shot before, and let 'em shoot that gun. It makes them feel really good.

04-22-2008, 07:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 424	DON"T TOUCH THE GRIPS!!!! The yellow aging is desirable. Nice looking m19. Being it's been in the family, I would try to document when your granddad bought it and who has carried it. Having a guns history is cool. There is a outfit that reblues and restanps S&W revolvers, great prices, $200 for a standard reblue. I'll post the www. when I find it. The grips add another $100+ to the value. Ford's Custom Gun Refinishing fair price, best work I have seen on restamping logo's and letters/numbers. __________________ old white farts love preparing for the zombie apocalypse... Last edited by madcratebuilder; 04-22-2008 at 08:21 AM.

04-22-2008, 07:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
jtuck Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 77	I have the form filled out and waiting to be mailed to S&W. I am very interested to find out more about it. Thanks for all the tips! You know I have two pistols that are the main ones I carry. My para is the one that carry to work every just cause they like us to have auto's but if I'm carrying off duty I like the 19. Last edited by jtuck; 04-22-2008 at 07:26 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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