S&W 586 parts in a 686

FrostShell · 10-13-2009, 06:00 AM

From what I read, the 586 and 686 S&W revolver is the exact same gun, except one is in blued steel and the other is in silver stainless. Now, the 586 was discontinued, but you can still buy parts for it. I think it would be pretty cool to have a black cylinder (from the 586) in my 686.

Is there any reason this wouldn't work?

madcratebuilder · 10-13-2009, 07:25 AM

Very doable. I have a couple of "pinto's". Watch gunbroker for a parts gun or cylinder. The cylinder well need to be fitted to your revolver.

FrostShell · 10-13-2009, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by madcratebuilder

The cylinder well need to be fitted to your revolver.

What does that mean exactly?

FrostShell · 10-13-2009, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by madcratebuilder

Watch gunbroker for a parts gun or cylinder.

Like this one?

Smith Wesson S&W L Frame 586 .357 Cylinder 357 : Barrels at GunBroker.com

Haha, what luck.

Kaybe · 10-14-2009, 12:35 AM

Each cylinder is hand fitted to the gun. The yoke and yoke barrel have to be aligned with that cylinder. With a different extractor, the timing might be different. If you swap out the cylinder guts to the new one, you would avoid that. To unscrew the ejector rod, the threads are opposite of normal. Lefty loosey in now lefty tighty. Be sure to have two empty cases in the cylinder when you unscrew the ejector rod. You probably will have to put the rod in a padded vice. Align the yoke/yoke barrel with the cylinder and make sure you have proper gap in the front and back of the cylinder. Also, the yoke barrel might have to be filed or stretched, depending on how much end shake or not enough front gap there is. It can be done. I think it would have a nice two tone effect. Cylinders are not drop in parts for Smith and Wesson. I wish they were.

cjleete · 10-14-2009, 05:07 AM

Smith&Wesson "Mutt" guns are not all that rare, They came out with a new one every week for a while.

FrostShell · 10-15-2009, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaybe

Cylinders are not drop in parts for Smith and Wesson. I wish they were.

But they are the same model, just a different metal. Or is every single individual gun different?

madcratebuilder · 10-15-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FrostShell

But they are the same model, just a different metal. Or is every single individual gun different?

If you change cylinders you need to verify a few clearances. barrel gap, end clearance, head space and timing. Everything well be very close, you may get a drop in fit or you may need to do some minor fitting. You are working with .001 tolerances.

I recommend you pick up a copy of the Jerry Kuhnhausen book "The S&W Revolver a shop manual" This well tell you how to fit the cylinder. If you want to do your own work on firearms then a library of J Kuhnhausen books are a necessity.

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Smith&Wesson "Mutt" guns are not all that rare, They came out with a new one every week for a while.

What model are those? I know of very few S&W factory Pinto models.

FrostShell · 10-15-2009, 02:35 PM

Well I won the auction. $95 in the end, but that's really not too bad for a discontinued factory new part. I think I'll take it to a gunsmith to get it fitted as I don't even have a vise to remove the current cylinder, heh.

madcratebuilder · 10-16-2009, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FrostShell

Well I won the auction. $95 in the end, but that's really not too bad for a discontinued factory new part. I think I'll take it to a gunsmith to get it fitted as I don't even have a vise to remove the current cylinder, heh.

Good decision on your part. Timing a cylinder is a fairly advanced gunsmithing operation. It's not difficult if you have done it but not for the first timer.

You well have a nice looking revolver when done.

big boomer · 10-16-2009, 09:40 AM

I would suggest you contact S&W and see if they would do it my buddy sent his j frame 38 in and they put in a new cylinder and hand and other parts so it was timed did not cost too bad I think it was 180 with the cost of the cylinder too.

10-13-2009, 06:00 AM	#1
FrostShell Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 46	S&W 586 parts in a 686 From what I read, the 586 and 686 S&W revolver is the exact same gun, except one is in blued steel and the other is in silver stainless. Now, the 586 was discontinued, but you can still buy parts for it. I think it would be pretty cool to have a black cylinder (from the 586) in my 686. Is there any reason this wouldn't work?

10-13-2009, 07:25 AM	#2
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 2,395 Images: 3	Very doable. I have a couple of "pinto's". Watch gunbroker for a parts gun or cylinder. The cylinder well need to be fitted to your revolver. __________________ Make peace with your past so it won't screw up the present.
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10-14-2009, 12:35 AM	#5
Kaybe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northcentral Ohio Posts: 641	Each cylinder is hand fitted to the gun. The yoke and yoke barrel have to be aligned with that cylinder. With a different extractor, the timing might be different. If you swap out the cylinder guts to the new one, you would avoid that. To unscrew the ejector rod, the threads are opposite of normal. Lefty loosey in now lefty tighty. Be sure to have two empty cases in the cylinder when you unscrew the ejector rod. You probably will have to put the rod in a padded vice. Align the yoke/yoke barrel with the cylinder and make sure you have proper gap in the front and back of the cylinder. Also, the yoke barrel might have to be filed or stretched, depending on how much end shake or not enough front gap there is. It can be done. I think it would have a nice two tone effect. Cylinders are not drop in parts for Smith and Wesson. I wish they were. __________________ Some people are alive simply because it is illegal to kill them.

10-14-2009, 05:07 AM	#6
cjleete Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 351	Smith&Wesson "Mutt" guns are not all that rare, They came out with a new one every week for a while. __________________ "Yeah I'm playing with a full deck, all Jokers of course"

10-15-2009, 02:35 PM	#9
FrostShell Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 46	Well I won the auction. $95 in the end, but that's really not too bad for a discontinued factory new part. I think I'll take it to a gunsmith to get it fitted as I don't even have a vise to remove the current cylinder, heh.

10-16-2009, 09:40 AM	#11
big boomer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Minn. Posts: 2,310	I would suggest you contact S&W and see if they would do it my buddy sent his j frame 38 in and they put in a new cylinder and hand and other parts so it was timed did not cost too bad I think it was 180 with the cost of the cylinder too.