KABOOM....Another Ouchy, S&W 629.

Ballbearing · 10-24-2009, 01:36 AM

I'm beginning to believe that guns should only be made of carbon steel. Blue them, nickel plate, silver or gold plate them if that's your taste, but leave the stainless for your kitchen sink, and leave the aluminum for pop cans. I really do think that there is an inheirant weakness in stainless steel. I've seen it in knives. Stainless doesn't hold as good an edge as carbon, and doesn't hold it's edge anywhere near as long. At least that's been my personal experience.

Mooseman684 · 10-24-2009, 01:56 AM

That is an Impressive destruction...Glad you survived with your Eyesight !
What ammo and Lot number were you using.?..I dont want any of it !

Mike82 · 10-24-2009, 03:45 AM

i would like to say i was using every precaution in the book....but unfortunately no. i had just put on my sunglasses cuz the sun had come out and was blinding me....think i'll WEAR glasses from now on. No, the shultz & larson incident didn't teach me to wear glasses....this one did tho. hearing protection? that's only worn if other people are shooting so i dont jump. i'm guessing either a 2x charged load, or the first round weakened the gun and 2nd finished it in....either way, it shouldn't have happened, but glad it did, now i'm wearing glasses like all the time lol. i'll have to get the remaining box from gunsmith, i gave him the rest for him to dissect and weigh grains and check for flaws. he said the #2 chamber that blew seemed to be slightly conical shaped at the front....like it was smaller diameter at front than at rear. I wonder if the chamber blocked bullet from exiting?

Mooseman684 · 10-24-2009, 04:25 AM

One other question...Is there a bullet lodged in The Barrel ???

neophyte · 10-24-2009, 07:52 AM

Mike82: Sir; dang; what a mess. Women do love tatoo's and scars;

but dang; what a way to "dress" to impress.

Thankfully; you'll have another day to do some shooting

Follow-up; where this story might have twist and turns

Thanks; for sharing! I think

billy · 10-24-2009, 07:56 AM

mike
man am i glad you are ok!
sorry i missed your call last night.

madcratebuilder · 10-24-2009, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

S&W's
are worse than taurus OR glocks.
it's like holding a time bomb.
will it kill you THIS time?
maybe NOW?

I agree, another case of lock induced failure and that cheap forged stainless doesn't help.

FrostShell · 10-24-2009, 08:38 AM

uh... should I be scared of my S&W now? It's my only gun >_>

blaster · 10-24-2009, 09:13 AM

glad you are o.k. and sorry for your loss of a firearm. I bought my 629 in the early 80 s and have fed it a diet of near max loads from day one. so far, so good. I think the problem with the one illustrated would have blown up a gun made of any material. (plugged barrel, over charged load, wrong powder etc.) I agree that a blued steel gun is a little stronger but stainless is more than adequate for use in firearms

billy · 10-24-2009, 09:15 AM

actually
glocks are the only ones that blow up for no reason.
they dont even have to be loaded.
just one day KERBLOOEY!
for nuthin.....

billy · 10-24-2009, 09:28 AM

spontaneous combustion.

GUNZABLAZIN · 10-24-2009, 10:46 AM

If it was the ammo,is there any way to get your gun paid for? I havent read a box of factory ammo in years, don't know about any "use at your own risk" or other warnings??

Hammer Down · 10-24-2009, 11:25 AM

Hello
The Question still Remains, WHAT Ammo was it ? If it was Re-Loads your recourse is to Mount it on the wall and treat your wound's.. You Loss. If it was factory ammo, who ever made it would be buying me another handgun at the very least. To say S&W's are Junk or commonly destruct would be Just Plain ignorant and Unfounded.

Most revolvers that Blow up like this have had a Double charge or the wrong Powder used. I have seen Rugers Blow the same way, and I wouldn't Place a Tauras in my hands afer I saw how Terriffic their service Policy was for small problems, one like this would close their Doors For Good..

Hammerdown

Rusted Angel · 10-24-2009, 12:17 PM

Mike, are does Cor Bon ammo?

GUNZABLAZIN · 10-24-2009, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer Down

Hello
The Question still Remains, WHAT Ammo was it ? If it was Re-Loads your recourse is to Mount it on the wall and treat your wound's.. You Loss. If it was factory ammo, who ever made it would be buying me another handgun at the very least. To say S&W's are Junk or commonly destruct would be Just Plain ignorant and Unfounded.

Most revolvers that Blow up like this have had a Double charge or the wrong Powder used. I have seen Rugers Blow the same way, and I wouldn't Place a Tauras in my hands afer I saw how Terriffic their service Policy was for small problems, one like this would close their Doors For Good..

Hammerdown

In the first post he said "manufactured ammo", guess I assumed FACTORY MANUFACTURED!!

MLN1963 · 10-24-2009, 01:02 PM

For your own protection I wouldn't just let a gun smith dissect the ammo. I would have it done professionally as an investigation. S&W nor your ammo company is going to want to take responsibility for what happened. To protect your investment and get paid for the damages I think you will need the services of a professional. I'm not saying go take it to a lawyer and all that horse pucky.

R5CYA · 10-24-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer Down

Hello
The Question still Remains, WHAT Ammo was it ? If it was Re-Loads your recourse is to Mount it on the wall and treat your wound's.. You Loss. If it was factory ammo, who ever made it would be buying me another handgun at the very least. To say S&W's are Junk or commonly destruct would be Just Plain ignorant and Unfounded.

Most revolvers that Blow up like this have had a Double charge or the wrong Powder used. I have seen Rugers Blow the same way, and I wouldn't Place a Tauras in my hands afer I saw how Terriffic their service Policy was for small problems, one like this would close their Doors For Good..

Hammerdown

you could have saved yourself the trouble of writing a post with all the different colors and bold letters if you read the second sentence of his post. " Wouldn't have expected that from manufactured ammo"

Hammer Down · 10-24-2009, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUNZABLAZIN

In the first post he said "manufactured ammo", guess I assumed FACTORY MANUFACTURED!!

Hello GUNABLAZEN
That is the way I Took It. I Guess I didn't understand as it led me to believ it was factory Loaded ammo. Hammerdown

Hammer Down · 10-24-2009, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R5CYA

you could have saved yourself the trouble of writing a post with all the different colors and bold letters if you read the second sentence of his post. " Wouldn't have expected that from manufactured ammo"

Hey Einstein
Can you show me where he answers it as anything OTHER Than Factory Ammo? I wanted to Know the BRAND, But Perhaps You should be spending Less time on Criticism of how I responded and more Time on The Focus of my response...

KW Gary M · 10-24-2009, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R5CYA

you could have saved yourself the trouble of writing a post with all the different colors and bold letters if you read the second sentence of his post. " Wouldn't have expected that from manufactured ammo"

Originally Posted by R5CYA (KABOOM....Another Ouchy, S&W 629.)

you could have saved yourself the trouble of writing a post with all the different colors and bold letters if you read the second sentence of his post. " Wouldn't have expected that from manufactured ammo"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer Down

Hey Einstein
Can you show me where he answers it as anything OTHER Than Factory Ammo? I wanted to Know the BRAND, But Perhaps You should be spending Less time on Criticism of how I responded and more Time on The Focus of my response...

Ladies, please continue your fight in the girls room and let this thread get back on topic.

10-24-2009, 01:56 AM	#22
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,318 Images: 2	That is an Impressive destruction...Glad you survived with your Eyesight ! What ammo and Lot number were you using.?..I dont want any of it ! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

10-24-2009, 03:45 AM	#23
Mike82 MMmmm.....I Like PIE!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Starkville, Mississippi USA Go BullDAWGS!!! Posts: 2,735 Images: 7	i would like to say i was using every precaution in the book....but unfortunately no. i had just put on my sunglasses cuz the sun had come out and was blinding me....think i'll WEAR glasses from now on. No, the shultz & larson incident didn't teach me to wear glasses....this one did tho. hearing protection? that's only worn if other people are shooting so i dont jump. i'm guessing either a 2x charged load, or the first round weakened the gun and 2nd finished it in....either way, it shouldn't have happened, but glad it did, now i'm wearing glasses like all the time lol. i'll have to get the remaining box from gunsmith, i gave him the rest for him to dissect and weigh grains and check for flaws. he said the #2 chamber that blew seemed to be slightly conical shaped at the front....like it was smaller diameter at front than at rear. I wonder if the chamber blocked bullet from exiting? __________________ No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again!

10-24-2009, 04:25 AM	#24
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,318 Images: 2	One other question...Is there a bullet lodged in The Barrel ??? __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

10-24-2009, 07:52 AM	#25
neophyte Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 8,827 Blog Entries: 2	Dang Mike82: Sir; dang; what a mess. Women do love tatoo's and scars; but dang; what a way to "dress" to impress. Thankfully; you'll have another day to do some shooting Follow-up; where this story might have twist and turns Thanks; for sharing! I think __________________ Craig May the Lord's face radiate with joy because of you. Numbers 6:24

10-24-2009, 07:56 AM	#26
billy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 19,731 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 161	mike man am i glad you are ok! sorry i missed your call last night. __________________

10-24-2009, 01:36 AM	#21
Ballbearing Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Boondocks Posts: 519	I'm beginning to believe that guns should only be made of carbon steel. Blue them, nickel plate, silver or gold plate them if that's your taste, but leave the stainless for your kitchen sink, and leave the aluminum for pop cans. I really do think that there is an inheirant weakness in stainless steel. I've seen it in knives. Stainless doesn't hold as good an edge as carbon, and doesn't hold it's edge anywhere near as long. At least that's been my personal experience.

10-24-2009, 08:38 AM	#28
FrostShell Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 46	uh... should I be scared of my S&W now? It's my only gun >_>

10-24-2009, 09:13 AM	#29
blaster Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: big pine key, florida Posts: 1,294	glad you are o.k. and sorry for your loss of a firearm. I bought my 629 in the early 80 s and have fed it a diet of near max loads from day one. so far, so good. I think the problem with the one illustrated would have blown up a gun made of any material. (plugged barrel, over charged load, wrong powder etc.) I agree that a blued steel gun is a little stronger but stainless is more than adequate for use in firearms __________________ peace through superior firepower

10-24-2009, 09:15 AM	#30
billy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 19,731 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 161	actually glocks are the only ones that blow up for no reason. they dont even have to be loaded. just one day KERBLOOEY! for nuthin..... __________________

10-24-2009, 09:28 AM	#31
billy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 19,731 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 161	spontaneous combustion. __________________

10-24-2009, 10:46 AM	#32
GUNZABLAZIN Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Blufton,Indiana Posts: 430	If it was the ammo,is there any way to get your gun paid for? I havent read a box of factory ammo in years, don't know about any "use at your own risk" or other warnings?? __________________ Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to Fight, he'll just kill you.

10-24-2009, 11:25 AM	#33
Hammer Down Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 343	Hello The Question still Remains, WHAT Ammo was it ? If it was Re-Loads your recourse is to Mount it on the wall and treat your wound's.. You Loss. If it was factory ammo, who ever made it would be buying me another handgun at the very least. To say S&W's are Junk or commonly destruct would be Just Plain ignorant and Unfounded. Most revolvers that Blow up like this have had a Double charge or the wrong Powder used. I have seen Rugers Blow the same way, and I wouldn't Place a Tauras in my hands afer I saw how Terriffic their service Policy was for small problems, one like this would close their Doors For Good.. Hammerdown __________________ Yeah though I Walk Through The Valley of Death, I shall fear no evil as I carry with me my S&W

10-24-2009, 12:17 PM	#34
Rusted Angel Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indiana, USA Posts: 66	Mike, are does Cor Bon ammo?

10-24-2009, 01:02 PM	#36
MLN1963 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SW OK Posts: 126	For your own protection I wouldn't just let a gun smith dissect the ammo. I would have it done professionally as an investigation. S&W nor your ammo company is going to want to take responsibility for what happened. To protect your investment and get paid for the damages I think you will need the services of a professional. I'm not saying go take it to a lawyer and all that horse pucky.