KABOOM....Another Ouchy, S&W 629.

Mike82 · 10-24-2009, 08:55 PM

sorry, was driving all day today, so didnt have a pc nearby to reply with. my smith called me and said the ammo wasn't hot loaded at all, but that the "chamber" on the #2 was at fault. it seemed to have been cut in a conical shape, where the back of chamber was too large diameter and front was a lil too small with a small lip of extra steel hanging out into line of bullet. maybe someone forgot to inspect? or forgot to finish the machining? i don't know, but i've contacted S&W's online support to see what they have to say.

Federal American Eagle 240gr

billy · 10-24-2009, 09:04 PM

glad you are ok mike.
ignore the catfight in the alley
sheesh!

G. Green · 10-24-2009, 09:29 PM

Not the first Smith I've seen in that shape, but I'm kinda impressed that they owned up to it being their error. Glad nobody got fragged. That'd make a good pic for an ad for shooting glasses.

Glocks just blow up for no reason?!?! Just I was gettin' up the nerve for an in the pants carry. Great! lol

Rusted Angel · 10-25-2009, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike82

sorry, was driving all day today, so didnt have a pc nearby to reply with. my smith called me and said the ammo wasn't hot loaded at all, but that the "chamber" on the #2 was at fault. it seemed to have been cut in a conical shape, where the back of chamber was too large diameter and front was a lil too small with a small lip of extra steel hanging out into line of bullet. maybe someone forgot to inspect? or forgot to finish the machining? i don't know, but i've contacted S&W's online support to see what they have to say.

Federal American Eagle 240gr

Sounds like a S&W screw up, I hope they'll give you not one, but two guns

madcratebuilder · 10-25-2009, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FrostShell

uh... should I be scared of my S&W now? It's my only gun >_>

Yes you should, it's a death trap. If your hard up for money to replace it I'll take it off your hands.

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spontaneous combustion.

spontaneous destruction!

deadzero · 10-25-2009, 08:04 AM

I'll tell you one thing, S&W is going to want that gun back in their hands immediately. because if they are at fault that is the evidence in a very nasty lawsuit where they are liable. maybe you are all right with your head busted open, but if you had lost an eye or became horribly disfigured from it you would be thinking differently. the thing is their level of liability in the matter is still the same. all ammo used at the time would also have to be kept for investigation.
just my 2 cents.
Criss
one more thing. if they get the gun back in their posession, more than likely they will claim it was something you did to cause it and it is not covered under their warranty. once they have it in their hands, there is no way they will give it back up. that cylinder will simply disappear from existence.

blaster · 10-25-2009, 08:45 AM

so it was a brand new gun and it blew up the first time you fired it? if not, howcome the out of shape chamber didn't cause it to explode when the first shot went out of it? I'm no expert but couldn't the explosion have caused the deformity in the cylinder? if it wasn't the first shot, did you notice any difference in accuracy when the offending chamber was fired?

Mike82 · 10-25-2009, 08:45 PM

it's a revolver and this was the second time it had been fired....revolvers have multiple chambers, not same chamber....maybe you already knew that and i missunderstood the question. deadzero, i agree, S&W isn't getting their hands on this....not until it's been independantly inspected and documented as being in existence. Gonna get a few opinions then go to the ATF and have one of their specialists inspect and document it. S&W sent me an automated email asking me to return it to the manufacturer for further review lol....they're gonna have to wait till i get it inspected and documented before i send it off. Ammo will be checked too, updates of what is found out and such will be added when i get them.

LefthandShooter · 10-30-2009, 06:08 PM

Please keep us posted.
I own 8 S&W pistols.

Mooseman684 · 11-03-2009, 12:08 AM

FUNNY THING...I just got an E-mail about this Blowup and It said...

"Someone needs to learn how to reload.

M629 BLOWUP
A guy came into our department the other day to ask a favor. He had a S&W 629 that he wanted to dispose of after a mishap at the range. He said there was a loud bang when he tested his new load and the gun smacked him in the forehead, leaving a nice gash. When the tweety birds cleared, this is what he saw....."

And it had the same Photos Mike Posted about this happening to him...
something Smells Fishy here....

LefthandShooter · 11-03-2009, 03:15 AM

I got the same e-mail from a friend who is a glock nut. He said it was proof I needed to junk my S&W's.

Sgtsquid · 11-03-2009, 09:34 AM

I smell a conspiracy theory...

Deersniper · 11-03-2009, 10:42 AM

I saw this same posting on Texas gun Talk yesterday. What's up?

madcratebuilder · 11-03-2009, 02:08 PM

This blow up is on several forums. Some times it factory ammo, others it's a reload. The destruction pattern sure looks like a double charge to me. You double charge or grab the wrong can of powder it well come apart.

samuel · 11-03-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike82

i'll put it like this....it was not only the first time loaded(bought new), but as you can see, one of the cartridges doesnt have a bullet, this was the 2nd shot ever fired that did this....and they say 3rd time's the charm....they never tell you what the 2nd time is. interesting thing is....this is the 2nd time a receiver has peeled on me(1st due to blind man loading wrong cartridge). I gots a gash on me forehead from the hammer which was burned shut instantly because the #3 cartridge exploded when it hit me. I like battle scars but the doctor said he recommended laser surgery to get all the brass outta my forehead skin. Hopefully it'll leave a big scar

Should've got a Colt, lol.

-Mike.

Have seen pics before.My guess,this atory will fade into the mist or possibly get bigger with no documentation.Could we see a pic of the terrible gash in your head?How would a cartridge striking sideways on soft material,(your head compared to steel in a fireing pin set the second cartridge off?When it went off against your head why didn't it blow your head up like it did the gun?Could we see the doctors bill?Will you post proof of assesment of damage when you get it?How would laser surgery remove copper shrapnel?I still have shrapnel in spots but they never tried to melt it.I'll ask them why.What happened to the sunglasses?They,or shooting glasses are the first thing to injure me and break when something like a scope bounces back. Will be looking forward to verification.Why doesn't S&W know about this if you had contact with them?They said they knew nothing about it when I told them where to look for it.As to the chamber,all mag chambers I have seen are smaller at the front.About the same size as the lands.They have a forcing comb.From there back they are casing size.Was this a .44mag?Please keep us informed with verification when possible.(I'm betting it just won't be possible to verify)Would love to see pic of damage to head. ,,,sam.

samuel · 11-03-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by billy

actually
glocks are the only ones that blow up for no reason.
they dont even have to be loaded.
just one day KERBLOOEY!
for nuthin.....

Probably what happened.It thought it was a Glock. ,,,sam.

samuel · 11-03-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by G. Green

Not the first Smith I've seen in that shape, but I'm kinda impressed that they owned up to it being their error. Glad nobody got fragged. That'd make a good pic for an ad for shooting glasses.

Glocks just blow up for no reason?!?! Just I was gettin' up the nerve for an in the pants carry. Great! lol

Could you post verification of "seeing" other S&W,s like that?Or even one for that matter? ,,,sam.

Hammer Down · 11-03-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sgtsquid

I smell a conspiracy theory...

Hey, I Know. This is the second Gun from the Grassy Knoll...

G. Green · 11-03-2009, 06:01 PM

Well SAM it was on Jan 16, 1981. Which was my wedding day and I had a buddy who was a police officer and ordained minister show up to perform the ceremony with a cigar box that contained something he just couldn't wait to show me. I "think" it was a 65 or 66 definitely a k frame. Sorry I didn't think to take a pic, but I had other stuff on my mind like calming down my future mother-in-law. The other was an issue 65 that had a wadcutter stuck in the barrel when the operator fired something that wasn't a wadcutter. He said he thought the wadcutter was a clean miss. I guess one that doesn't make it all the way out the barrel is technically a miss?

samuel · 11-03-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by G. Green

Well SAM it was on Jan 16, 1981. Which was my wedding day and I had a buddy who was a police officer and ordained minister show up to perform the ceremony with a cigar box that contained something he just couldn't wait to show me. I "think" it was a 65 or 66 definitely a k frame. Sorry I didn't think to take a pic, but I had other stuff on my mind like calming down my future mother-in-law. The other was an issue 65 that had a wadcutter stuck in the barrel when the operator fired something that wasn't a wadcutter. He said he thought the wadcutter was a clean miss. I guess one that doesn't make it all the way out the barrel is technically a miss?

I believe you but fail to understand how a firearm can be blamed for what a person does that evidently knew little about firearms.Also,I have seen several revolvers that had been fired with an obstruction in the barrel but never saw one blow the chamber/cylinder.They always bulged the barrel,or in one case,split it.Anything is possible when we get careless,so I will take your word it blew the chamber/cylinder.And I hope you never have to see one blown up again. ,,,sam.

10-24-2009, 08:55 PM	#41
Mike82 MMmmm.....I Like PIE!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Starkville, Mississippi USA Go BullDAWGS!!! Posts: 2,735 Images: 7	sorry, was driving all day today, so didnt have a pc nearby to reply with. my smith called me and said the ammo wasn't hot loaded at all, but that the "chamber" on the #2 was at fault. it seemed to have been cut in a conical shape, where the back of chamber was too large diameter and front was a lil too small with a small lip of extra steel hanging out into line of bullet. maybe someone forgot to inspect? or forgot to finish the machining? i don't know, but i've contacted S&W's online support to see what they have to say. Federal American Eagle 240gr __________________ No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again! Last edited by Mike82; 10-24-2009 at 09:00 PM.

10-24-2009, 09:04 PM	#42
billy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 19,720 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 161	glad you are ok mike. ignore the catfight in the alley sheesh! __________________

10-25-2009, 08:04 AM	#46
deadzero Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: deep in the swamps SC Posts: 1,199	Mike, think about this before you do anything else, I'll tell you one thing, S&W is going to want that gun back in their hands immediately. because if they are at fault that is the evidence in a very nasty lawsuit where they are liable. maybe you are all right with your head busted open, but if you had lost an eye or became horribly disfigured from it you would be thinking differently. the thing is their level of liability in the matter is still the same. all ammo used at the time would also have to be kept for investigation. just my 2 cents. Criss one more thing. if they get the gun back in their posession, more than likely they will claim it was something you did to cause it and it is not covered under their warranty. once they have it in their hands, there is no way they will give it back up. that cylinder will simply disappear from existence. __________________ If I need more than 1 shot, I need more practice. Last edited by deadzero; 10-25-2009 at 08:19 AM.

10-25-2009, 08:45 AM	#47
blaster Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: big pine key, florida Posts: 1,294	so it was a brand new gun and it blew up the first time you fired it? if not, howcome the out of shape chamber didn't cause it to explode when the first shot went out of it? I'm no expert but couldn't the explosion have caused the deformity in the cylinder? if it wasn't the first shot, did you notice any difference in accuracy when the offending chamber was fired? __________________ peace through superior firepower

10-25-2009, 08:45 PM	#48
Mike82 MMmmm.....I Like PIE!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Starkville, Mississippi USA Go BullDAWGS!!! Posts: 2,735 Images: 7	it's a revolver and this was the second time it had been fired....revolvers have multiple chambers, not same chamber....maybe you already knew that and i missunderstood the question. deadzero, i agree, S&W isn't getting their hands on this....not until it's been independantly inspected and documented as being in existence. Gonna get a few opinions then go to the ATF and have one of their specialists inspect and document it. S&W sent me an automated email asking me to return it to the manufacturer for further review lol....they're gonna have to wait till i get it inspected and documented before i send it off. Ammo will be checked too, updates of what is found out and such will be added when i get them. __________________ No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again!

10-24-2009, 09:29 PM	#43
G. Green Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NE OK Posts: 464	Not the first Smith I've seen in that shape, but I'm kinda impressed that they owned up to it being their error. Glad nobody got fragged. That'd make a good pic for an ad for shooting glasses. Glocks just blow up for no reason?!?! Just I was gettin' up the nerve for an in the pants carry. Great! lol

10-30-2009, 06:08 PM	#49
LefthandShooter Got Jesus? Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Northeastern Ohio Posts: 4,334 Blog Entries: 2	Please keep us posted. I own 8 S&W pistols. __________________ May God give us the wisdom & strength to live our lives in a manner that will be pleasing unto Him.

11-03-2009, 12:08 AM	#50
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,305 Images: 2	FUNNY THING...I just got an E-mail about this Blowup and It said... "Someone needs to learn how to reload. M629 BLOWUP A guy came into our department the other day to ask a favor. He had a S&W 629 that he wanted to dispose of after a mishap at the range. He said there was a loud bang when he tested his new load and the gun smacked him in the forehead, leaving a nice gash. When the tweety birds cleared, this is what he saw....." And it had the same Photos Mike Posted about this happening to him... something Smells Fishy here.... __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

11-03-2009, 03:15 AM	#51
LefthandShooter Got Jesus? Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Northeastern Ohio Posts: 4,334 Blog Entries: 2	I got the same e-mail from a friend who is a glock nut. He said it was proof I needed to junk my S&W's. __________________ May God give us the wisdom & strength to live our lives in a manner that will be pleasing unto Him.

11-03-2009, 09:34 AM	#52
Sgtsquid Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 116	I smell a conspiracy theory...

11-03-2009, 10:42 AM	#53
Deersniper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,608	I saw this same posting on Texas gun Talk yesterday. What's up?

11-03-2009, 02:08 PM	#54
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 2,395 Images: 3	This blow up is on several forums. Some times it factory ammo, others it's a reload. The destruction pattern sure looks like a double charge to me. You double charge or grab the wrong can of powder it well come apart. __________________ Make peace with your past so it won't screw up the present.

11-03-2009, 06:01 PM	#59
G. Green Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NE OK Posts: 464	Well SAM it was on Jan 16, 1981. Which was my wedding day and I had a buddy who was a police officer and ordained minister show up to perform the ceremony with a cigar box that contained something he just couldn't wait to show me. I "think" it was a 65 or 66 definitely a k frame. Sorry I didn't think to take a pic, but I had other stuff on my mind like calming down my future mother-in-law. The other was an issue 65 that had a wadcutter stuck in the barrel when the operator fired something that wasn't a wadcutter. He said he thought the wadcutter was a clean miss. I guess one that doesn't make it all the way out the barrel is technically a miss?