8X56R Reloading Bummer

gandog56 · 12-05-2008, 06:54 PM

So I reload for my Steyr M95. I get Hornady 205 grain .330" soft point bullets from Graf And Sons, but I have always been a little bit nervous because I have never seen these bullets anywhere else, not even on Hornady's web site. So I sent Hornady an email, and asked them what's up with that? Found out Graf And Sons special orders them, and they are the ONLY place to get them. Hornady won't sell them to anybody else.

So what if Graf's stop selling them?

remchuck · 12-07-2008, 11:22 AM

casting is an option.i have a .338 mold which can be sized to .329,or lee makes a .329 mold just for the steyr

gandog56 · 12-07-2008, 07:33 PM

It's an option I don't want to get into. I like hyper-velocity jacked loads.

gandog56 · 12-10-2008, 12:04 AM

Although I probably would if forced to. It's just that I have a load the rifle seems to love right now.

tigerdog09 · 01-12-2009, 09:39 PM

does anyone know of a reloading manual that covers the 8x56R both cast and jacketed bullets? How about the 100 gr Lebel bullet? If I could find a manual that included the 8x56R & 6x45,I could be as happy as a hog in a mud puddle!

Dakoma · 01-16-2009, 01:31 AM

Handloads.com has some info.Read somewhere about resizing jacketed .338 bullets to .330,think he said he used a Lee sizer the ones for cast bullets not shure.Was also told to slug the bore for a perfect fit to inprove accuracy.Would be worth looking into.I think I will cast mine.

Sabot · 02-09-2009, 11:37 PM

I don't know who makes these but here is another source for bullets.

Hornady Spire Soft Point Jacketed Bullet .330" 205 grain

toolman · 02-10-2009, 08:04 AM

Hey gandog, ck with these guys: Welcome To Buffalo Arms Co. They carry several different weights for the '56R. Another option is to resize 338 bullets down to .330 or .329 using the Lee size and lube die in your press. Supposedly, the Speer Hot-Cor's work best for this.

bobvonb · 02-28-2009, 12:51 AM

I see Buffalo has 150, 170, and 200 gr hunting bullets for the 8x56R. That's cool, I love 150 gr for deer, but where would I get loading data for that? (I have 3031 on hand)

toolman · 02-28-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bobvonb

I see Buffalo has 150, 170, and 200 gr hunting bullets for the 8x56R. That's cool, I love 150 gr for deer, but where would I get loading data for that? (I have 3031 on hand)

Use .30-40 Krag data for a starting load and work up from there.

bobvonb · 03-01-2009, 02:17 AM

OK, I followed the leads and found a bunch of good info. Grafs.com sells brass for $56/100, ammo for $27/20 (205 gr SP Hornady), and bullets (205 gr SP Hornady) for $33/100. BuffaloArms.com sells 150 gr SP bullets for $37/100, and 175 gr and 205 gr for a bit more. I received an old Lee guide for the 8x56R. I also received guidance to interpolate from the 7.62x54R and the 8x57 Mauser because of their similar cases and loads. Indeed, the Lee recommendations fall very close to both of those. When I compute the recoil expected the 150 gr and 175 gr loads surprisingly come out very close together and a bit below the 205 gr loads. Both are also under .308 figures too. Ballistics for the 150 gr load should be approximately that of the .300 Savage, maybe slightly better. The 175gr load should approximate the .303 British. In either case they should be good deer loads out to 300 yds.

Thanks to all and especially jimkim, a font of reloading information.

gandog56 · 03-03-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bobvonb

OK, I followed the leads and found a bunch of good info. Grafs.com sells brass for $56/100, ammo for $27/20 (205 gr SP Hornady), and bullets (205 gr SP Hornady) for $33/100.

Except with my C&R license holder discount from them I get the bullets for 27/100 amd th cases for 42/100.

Just thought I would throw that out there as another reason to get that C&R license.

bobvonb · 03-03-2009, 01:20 AM

would love to. I've requested the application, but it's been about 6 weeks and nothing. Good to know though, thanks.

bobvonb · 03-03-2009, 01:13 PM

I just talked with the USA importer for PRVI. He says they have loaded 208gr SP (.329) 8x56R ammo on order, but it hasn't arrived. He suggested I call back in 30 days. He gave me no internet links to track. He had a sample box on hand. I pressed him for a price and he suggested it might be about $15/20 but that is not firm.

Apparently they are wrapped around the axle with 223 and 308 orders caused by panic buying.

CMAsailor · 03-20-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bobvonb

I just talked with the USA importer for PRVI. He says they have loaded 208gr SP (.329) 8x56R ammo on order, but it hasn't arrived. He suggested I call back in 30 days. He gave me no internet links to track. He had a sample box on hand. I pressed him for a price and he suggested it might be about $15/20 but that is not firm.

Apparently they are wrapped around the axle with 223 and 308 orders caused by panic buying.

Have you heard anything more from the PRVI importer? I'd be more than willing to jump on a couple of boxes...if not cases...

bobvonb · 03-21-2009, 01:28 AM

No, I called PRVI on 3 Mar and he asked I wait a month. However, here is the contact info in case someone else want to pursue this.

TR&Z USA Trading Co.
2499 Main St.
Stratford, CT 06615
(203) 375-8544
(203) 375-8547 (Fax)

Keep us informed! Find out if C&R license will get us a discount!

gandog56 · 03-24-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bobvonb

would love to. I've requested the application, but it's been about 6 weeks and nothing. Good to know though, thanks.

Numrich and Midway USA also give C&R license holders discounts.

gandog56 · 03-24-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CMAsailor

Have you heard anything more from the PRVI importer? I'd be more than willing to jump on a couple of boxes...if not cases...

Me too. I have enough boxer primed brass for now, but sooner or later they will split.

shop tom · 03-24-2009, 10:35 PM

Thanks for the Buffalo Arms link. I just ordered 100 of the 150 gr spitzer bullets for my M95 Steyr.

tom

toolman · 03-24-2009, 10:40 PM

No prob!

12-05-2008, 06:54 PM	#1
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 11,784	8X56R Reloading Bummer So I reload for my Steyr M95. I get Hornady 205 grain .330" soft point bullets from Graf And Sons, but I have always been a little bit nervous because I have never seen these bullets anywhere else, not even on Hornady's web site. So I sent Hornady an email, and asked them what's up with that? Found out Graf And Sons special orders them, and they are the ONLY place to get them. Hornady won't sell them to anybody else. So what if Graf's stop selling them? __________________ People think I'm paranoid because I own guns. If I own guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

12-07-2008, 07:33 PM	#3
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 11,784	It's an option I don't want to get into. I like hyper-velocity jacked loads. __________________ People think I'm paranoid because I own guns. If I own guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

12-10-2008, 12:04 AM	#4
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 11,784	Although I probably would if forced to. It's just that I have a load the rifle seems to love right now. __________________ People think I'm paranoid because I own guns. If I own guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

02-10-2009, 08:04 AM	#8
toolman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 7,135 Blog Entries: 25	Hey gandog, ck with these guys: Welcome To Buffalo Arms Co. They carry several different weights for the '56R. Another option is to resize 338 bullets down to .330 or .329 using the Lee size and lube die in your press. Supposedly, the Speer Hot-Cor's work best for this. __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

02-28-2009, 12:51 AM	#9
bobvonb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Apple Valley, CA Posts: 267	150gr loading data? I see Buffalo has 150, 170, and 200 gr hunting bullets for the 8x56R. That's cool, I love 150 gr for deer, but where would I get loading data for that? (I have 3031 on hand)

12-07-2008, 11:22 AM	#2
remchuck Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: nashville Posts: 348 Blog Entries: 1	casting is an option.i have a .338 mold which can be sized to .329,or lee makes a .329 mold just for the steyr

01-12-2009, 09:39 PM	#5
tigerdog09 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2	does anyone know of a reloading manual that covers the 8x56R both cast and jacketed bullets? How about the 100 gr Lebel bullet? If I could find a manual that included the 8x56R & 6x45,I could be as happy as a hog in a mud puddle!

01-16-2009, 01:31 AM	#6
Dakoma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southeast Tennessee Posts: 1,135	Handloads.com has some info.Read somewhere about resizing jacketed .338 bullets to .330,think he said he used a Lee sizer the ones for cast bullets not shure.Was also told to slug the bore for a perfect fit to inprove accuracy.Would be worth looking into.I think I will cast mine.

02-09-2009, 11:37 PM	#7
Sabot Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Simi Valley, California Posts: 46	I don't know who makes these but here is another source for bullets. Hornady Spire Soft Point Jacketed Bullet .330" 205 grain

03-01-2009, 02:17 AM	#11
bobvonb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Apple Valley, CA Posts: 267	OK, I followed the leads and found a bunch of good info. Grafs.com sells brass for $56/100, ammo for $27/20 (205 gr SP Hornady), and bullets (205 gr SP Hornady) for $33/100. BuffaloArms.com sells 150 gr SP bullets for $37/100, and 175 gr and 205 gr for a bit more. I received an old Lee guide for the 8x56R. I also received guidance to interpolate from the 7.62x54R and the 8x57 Mauser because of their similar cases and loads. Indeed, the Lee recommendations fall very close to both of those. When I compute the recoil expected the 150 gr and 175 gr loads surprisingly come out very close together and a bit below the 205 gr loads. Both are also under .308 figures too. Ballistics for the 150 gr load should be approximately that of the .300 Savage, maybe slightly better. The 175gr load should approximate the .303 British. In either case they should be good deer loads out to 300 yds. Thanks to all and especially jimkim, a font of reloading information.

03-03-2009, 01:20 AM	#13
bobvonb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Apple Valley, CA Posts: 267	C&R would love to. I've requested the application, but it's been about 6 weeks and nothing. Good to know though, thanks.

03-03-2009, 01:13 PM	#14
bobvonb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Apple Valley, CA Posts: 267	coming soon! PRVI 208 gr SP loaded for 8x56R I just talked with the USA importer for PRVI. He says they have loaded 208gr SP (.329) 8x56R ammo on order, but it hasn't arrived. He suggested I call back in 30 days. He gave me no internet links to track. He had a sample box on hand. I pressed him for a price and he suggested it might be about $15/20 but that is not firm. Apparently they are wrapped around the axle with 223 and 308 orders caused by panic buying.

03-21-2009, 01:28 AM	#16
bobvonb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Apple Valley, CA Posts: 267	PRVI 8x56R ammo No, I called PRVI on 3 Mar and he asked I wait a month. However, here is the contact info in case someone else want to pursue this. TR&Z USA Trading Co. 2499 Main St. Stratford, CT 06615 (203) 375-8544 (203) 375-8547 (Fax) Keep us informed! Find out if C&R license will get us a discount!

03-24-2009, 10:35 PM	#19
shop tom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northeaster Lower Michigan Posts: 487	Thanks for the Buffalo Arms link. I just ordered 100 of the 150 gr spitzer bullets for my M95 Steyr. tom

03-24-2009, 10:40 PM	#20
toolman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 7,135 Blog Entries: 25	No prob! __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!