I've met a few in person. Good people! Smart.
One gal, never know by just looking at her, knew the older Toyota LandCruisers like the back of her hand! She was in the process of selling two and keeping the third for her move back east.
One couple, smart (made a killing in the stock market), sharp, she was good at growing plants but they were not so good with guns.
I'm really careful about who I meet with. I've met three people who are "preppers". One kept chasing me around and pestering me about teaching him CQC (He actually knows what I do for a living), He seemed very co-dependant. I don't like that. He would be a liability.
Another, had gotten a divorce, but stays on good terms with his ex in order to have a place to live. Apparently, hes been doing this for some time. Useless.
The last one I met has potential, she seems to be pretty smart and has been prepping for a while. She doesn't own firearms because her "hubby" doesn't approve, but is to the point of getting one anyways and training. When I meet female preppers, I usually take Miss "K", Miss "V", or my wife (good policy, BTW).
The ones that concern me are..... "I have a gun and will just take what I want!"
The ones with the "Raider" mentality, and let me tell you, there are alot of them. Most likely they won't last long, but they'll at least go through a couple or three victims before someone removes their batteries".
True, but maybe..... just MAYbe, you're not seeing the whole picture. Perhaps people like him have a stash of firearms/ammo and are just not allowing an OpSec failure in that area. Personally, if I was approached by "Doomsday Preppers" to be on their show, either I would admit only prepping for an earthquake and mention NOTHING about guns/ammo/training, or simply tell them to look elsewhere. IMO, these people have committed the #1 sin in prepping.... OpSec failure!
fOR ME. It would be "Sorry, Look elswhere. I got no help for ya." The less they know the better.
Even though the bag guys out here prey on the locals (they do not have a logistical supply train, so they have to rely on locals for a "tax" food, sometimes shelter, or shake them down for money), they still know if you kill all the locals, then there is no food.
I find it interesting how these uneducated, illiterate, POS know this and (from what I read here) there are people back in the states with the "Raider" mentality, as Dragunov puts it, dont.
We get reports of bad guys shaking down, taxing the locals. We also get reports of villages who come together and repelled bad guys as well.
Now, I dont have a crystal ball, but I like to think in a SHTF situation, in the states the Mad Max, fending off bad guys, firefights everyday would be a rarity. I am still going to be armed. These wannabe rambos who think they can just go around and take from others because they have a gun are going to find themselves on the run tired and hungry or swinging at the end of a rope.
Use the internet to meet like-minded folks in your area. THEN meet and discuss mutual concerns. Serious discussion of relevant subject matter in an open forum, as some have posted, simply removes from an oppressor the need to expend much, if any effort to locate, and then deal with you.
AND, not to put on the tinfoil hat, but I would also recommend you do your discussions far away from any cell phones, computers, or anything electronic. This isn`t that hard to do and any would be oppressors I believe are lazy--they rely mostly on the gadgets we all do for convenience. This becomes apparent when we see most of the successful spies here in the US getting away with incredible stuff for long periods of time using very crude methods. We simply cannot monitor those people who don`t use phones and the internet very well. This is problematic no matter WHO the adversary is.
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Even though the bag guys out here prey on the locals (they do not have a logistical supply train, so they have to rely on locals for a "tax" food, sometimes shelter, or shake them down for money), they still know if you kill all the locals, then there is no food.
I find it interesting how these uneducated, illiterate, POS know this and (from what I read here) there are people back in the states with the "Raider" mentality, as Dragunov puts it, dont.
We get reports of bad guys shaking down, taxing the locals. We also get reports of villages who come together and repelled bad guys as well.
Now, I dont have a crystal ball, but I like to think in a SHTF situation, in the states the Mad Max, fending off bad guys, firefights everyday would be a rarity. I am still going to be armed. These wannabe rambos who think they can just go around and take from others because they have a gun are going to find themselves on the run tired and hungry or swinging at the end of a rope.
There are 2 ways this could go; for the sake of argument I`ll call them the `liberal` and the `conservative` way.
For the `liberal` way we get Greece and London as models; away from the government teet of the nanny state entitlement society people burn, kill, and loot. This is because they have been trained to resent those who are different and potentially have more stuff--and this is they way the society is set up (i.e. graduated tax, government sponsored everything, rules to `protect` everyone and everyone from everything, etc.). To these peoplle the thought of (with the help of your maker) being responsible for your OWN station in life is completely foreign. The occupy folks give us a glimpse of this as well; dirty taking whiny bastages exploiting woe and misery. These people have never learned to deal with life. The GOOD thing is when they become violent and try to take stuff they haven`t trained well and won`t last long. New Orleans is a good example of this camp as well.
For the `conservative` way we get good God fearing people who have been raised to work hard, make their own way in life, DEAL WITH IT when something happens, and realize they and themselves and family are responsible for their destiny. They are generous and help their friends without expecting anything in return. They are greatful for the blessings of their life. They view welfare as a shame (which they will go to only as a court of last resort) and will take ANY job to get back on their feet. They dislike burdening others with their problems, but will accept help so long as they can be part of the team in helping others. They do not attack unless gravely provoked, but are ruthless in defending their families and loved ones. They have core values which can`t be bought away. In short, they act as your mom would have taught you. This is MY neighborhood. This is some of the post-tornado alley towns which pitched in to help each other. No one goes hungry and everyone has some skill to help rebuild after some event. If a storm or other event hurts us, we (having the generator) invite others over and check on people to make sure they are OK. No one expects anything and everyone realizes they have SOME skill to pitch in and help out. People give freely and the kids get the first of the food. We work together. We are all armed; if miscreants come in we can well deal with them. We are not afraid of each other or anyone else.
I pray America in the face of adversary is the latter, and this is the advantage of a society that governmnent leaves ALONE. The PEOPLE learn to deal with life and enjoy God`s blessing of life. They are not some pets of burden designed to feed some power hungry miscreant in exchange for trifles. They decide things for themselves.
This thread has been interesting so far. I find it interesting that many of the general public accept the fact we carry ALOT of survival equipment of the finest type in the jet (worth more than my house and costing several hundred dollars in fuel each time we take it across the pacific--not to mention maintenance costs) yet would believe a government that is 110 % of GDP in debt (and climing exponentially) could continue to function forever.
Barring a sully moment, NO commercial jetliner I know of in recent history has successfully ditched over open ocean (some pistons did) and the chance of having to ditch is infantessimally small -- you can count on one hand all the airliners lost over open water from all causes over the past 10 years on 1 hand with fingers left over. This for many thousands of flights. It is orders of magnitude more likely you will be killed by an asteroid striking the earth than for you to die traveling internationally on an airliner. So the emer equipment is of little real value; yet we are mandated to have it and it is in great shape.
I am not of the world is going to end mentality, but given objective thought do not believe our nation can continue on this path for any length of time without something bad happening; this comes from a basic understanding of economics and history. How bad ? I really don`t know--there are alot of what ifs and I believe it depends on how far the cancer of the nanny state professional victim entitlement society has spread. If alot of people really believe that `tax the rich` works, or that racial, class and/or ethnic divisions allow you to resent your fellow man for whatever reason (or buy into this class warfare hogwash) we will have a very bad time of it. This is because a group of ruling class micreants have promised stuff they can`t deliver, crippled a functioning economy with their rules and laws, spent all WE have and can borrow (on things for themselves) and have set a new standard for selfish (effectively killing their parents and children for their own position in the sun--imagine someone so horrible they would mortage their children`s future with their own selfish debt). There are also storms, terrorist attacks, industrial accidents, hurricanes, riots, earthquakes, power failures (which are to become more likely as we bridle our energy sources) as well as many self-induced failings which make having some stuff and a plan a good idea. The U.S. has plenty of food and stuff (and can make plenty of it well) but does not hold alot in inventory and this can be disrupted relatively easily. Having reserves (don`t need ALOT) gives good piece of mind and frees one from fear. I think the biggest threat to food and water supplies will occur from panic and its ripple effects; hopefully we can get over this. It is a little hard to figure out how people will trade if our money collapses though and this could be a significant obstacle--like the FSU plenty of food and oil just can`t get it anywhere.
What kind of stuff ? How much ? What kind ? Well, that is up to you and no one knows your situation but you. I don`t judge others but what some folks do is not the same as I would. Basically as much as you think you need. If there is stuff you know you can get today that lasts forever which you might not be able to get tomorrow at all or a reasonable price (like lead ammo) and will use anyway get as much again as you think you need. If there is something useful today which may be gone tomrrow give it some thought. Listen to a few folks and think a little outside of the box--you might have forgotten motrin, asprin, vitamins, and some basic antibiotics, antiseptics, and first aid stuff.
Also have some energy sources, and enough tools to what you will think you need (including guns and ammo which are tools). For me I don`t need a whole bunch of gadgets so long as I can make what I need. The nice thing about training in the service is you kind of get a feel of what you might want to have with you. Think about getting enough stuff so`s you can survive independently for awhile. How long ? As long as you think you need before you can start making it for yourself; whether that be food, energy, etc.
I think the mindset and will are the most important part of anyone`s survival as well as a strong faith.
For me, I`ll get what I need and think prudent together (and not be cheap about it--but not wasteful either), know where it is and be able to use it if I need to (just like on the airplane), figure a plan to get folks together with the comms not working, and let the chips fall where they may--taking suggestions and looking at things I might not have thunk about from time to time. I want to be prepared enough, but not waste my most precious resource (time) getting alot of stuff I don`t need. If I can I`ll get stuff I use anyway and rotate it around.
And enjoy the blessing of the day God puts in front of me.
This thread has been interesting so far. I find it interesting that many of the general public accept the fact we carry ALOT of survival equipment of the finest type in the jet (worth more than my house and costing several hundred dollars in fuel each time we take it across the pacific--not to mention maintenance costs) yet would believe a government that is 110 % of GDP in debt (and climing exponentially) could continue to function forever.
Barring a sully moment, NO commercial jetliner I know of in recent history has successfully ditched over open ocean (some pistons did) and the chance of having to ditch is infantessimally small -- you can count on one hand all the airliners lost over open water from all causes over the past 10 years on 1 hand with fingers left over. This for many thousands of flights. It is orders of magnitude more likely you will be killed by an asteroid striking the earth than for you to die traveling internationally on an airliner. So the emer equipment is of little real value; yet we are mandated to have it and it is in great shape.
I am not of the world is going to end mentality, but given objective thought do not believe our nation can continue on this path for any length of time without something bad happening; this comes from a basic understanding of economics and history. How bad ? I really don`t know--there are alot of what ifs and I believe it depends on how far the cancer of the nanny state professional victim entitlement society has spread. If alot of people really believe that `tax the rich` works, or that racial, class and/or ethnic divisions allow you to resent your fellow man for whatever reason (or buy into this class warfare hogwash) we will have a very bad time of it. This is because a group of ruling class micreants have promised stuff they can`t deliver, crippled a functioning economy with their rules and laws, spent all WE have and can borrow (on things for themselves) and have set a new standard for selfish (effectively killing their parents and children for their own position in the sun--imagine someone so horrible they would mortage their children`s future with their own selfish debt). There are also storms, terrorist attacks, industrial accidents, hurricanes, riots, earthquakes, power failures (which are to become more likely as we bridle our energy sources) as well as many self-induced failings which make having some stuff and a plan a good idea. The U.S. has plenty of food and stuff (and can make plenty of it well) but does not hold alot in inventory and this can be disrupted relatively easily. Having reserves (don`t need ALOT) gives good piece of mind and frees one from fear. I think the biggest threat to food and water supplies will occur from panic and its ripple effects; hopefully we can get over this. It is a little hard to figure out how people will trade if our money collapses though and this could be a significant obstacle--like the FSU plenty of food and oil just can`t get it anywhere.
What kind of stuff ? How much ? What kind ? Well, that is up to you and no one knows your situation but you. I don`t judge others but what some folks do is not the same as I would. Basically as much as you think you need. If there is stuff you know you can get today that lasts forever which you might not be able to get tomorrow at all or a reasonable price (like lead ammo) and will use anyway get as much again as you think you need. If there is something useful today which may be gone tomrrow give it some thought. Listen to a few folks and think a little outside of the box--you might have forgotten motrin, asprin, vitamins, and some basic antibiotics, antiseptics, and first aid stuff.
Also have some energy sources, and enough tools to what you will think you need (including guns and ammo which are tools). For me I don`t need a whole bunch of gadgets so long as I can make what I need. The nice thing about training in the service is you kind of get a feel of what you might want to have with you. Think about getting enough stuff so`s you can survive independently for awhile. How long ? As long as you think you need before you can start making it for yourself; whether that be food, energy, etc.
I think the mindset and will are the most important part of anyone`s survival as well as a strong faith.
For me, I`ll get what I need and think prudent together (and not be cheap about it--but not wasteful either), know where it is and be able to use it if I need to (just like on the airplane), figure a plan to get folks together with the comms not working, and let the chips fall where they may--taking suggestions and looking at things I might not have thunk about from time to time. I want to be prepared enough, but not waste my most precious resource (time) getting alot of stuff I don`t need. If I can I`ll get stuff I use anyway and rotate it around.
And enjoy the blessing of the day God puts in front of me.
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here is one people lived it was on the news at the time
There are 2 ways this could go; for the sake of argument I`ll call them the `liberal` and the `conservative` way.
For the `liberal` way we get Greece and London as models; away from the government teet of the nanny state entitlement society people burn, kill, and loot. This is because they have been trained to resent those who are different and potentially have more stuff--and this is they way the society is set up (i.e. graduated tax, government sponsored everything, rules to `protect` everyone and everyone from everything, etc.). To these peoplle the thought of (with the help of your maker) being responsible for your OWN station in life is completely foreign. The occupy folks give us a glimpse of this as well; dirty taking whiny bastages exploiting woe and misery. These people have never learned to deal with life. The GOOD thing is when they become violent and try to take stuff they haven`t trained well and won`t last long. New Orleans is a good example of this camp as well.
For the `conservative` way we get good God fearing people who have been raised to work hard, make their own way in life, DEAL WITH IT when something happens, and realize they and themselves and family are responsible for their destiny. They are generous and help their friends without expecting anything in return. They are greatful for the blessings of their life. They view welfare as a shame (which they will go to only as a court of last resort) and will take ANY job to get back on their feet. They dislike burdening others with their problems, but will accept help so long as they can be part of the team in helping others. They do not attack unless gravely provoked, but are ruthless in defending their families and loved ones. They have core values which can`t be bought away. In short, they act as your mom would have taught you. This is MY neighborhood. This is some of the post-tornado alley towns which pitched in to help each other. No one goes hungry and everyone has some skill to help rebuild after some event. If a storm or other event hurts us, we (having the generator) invite others over and check on people to make sure they are OK. No one expects anything and everyone realizes they have SOME skill to pitch in and help out. People give freely and the kids get the first of the food. We work together. We are all armed; if miscreants come in we can well deal with them. We are not afraid of each other or anyone else.
I pray America in the face of adversary is the latter, and this is the advantage of a society that governmnent leaves ALONE. The PEOPLE learn to deal with life and enjoy God`s blessing of life. They are not some pets of burden designed to feed some power hungry miscreant in exchange for trifles. They decide things for themselves.
Last time I checked when SHTF, it does NOT go in any "way." Most certainly it does not go in 'liberal' or 'conservative' way. SHTF does not care for political leanings, class standings, religious beliefs, race or if someone drives foreign or domestic.
Does that New England liberal hippy lady who cans and grows her own food sound like she is going to "burn, kill and loot?"
There will be two groups alright: The Haves and the Have Nots.
The Haves are those who had the foresight to have a degree of preps. This is your guy who has a bunker with 2 years worth of MREs, weapons, and ammo. This group also includes those hippy liberals who have a pantry stocked of canned food from their own garden. I might not care for their warm and fuzzy thinking, or the fact they choose not arm themselves (a view point I think would change after SHTF) but give credit where credit is due. At least they have the knowledge and skillset for the means of food production. They know the value of hard work and getting dirty. The guy in the bunker has a finite supply of MREs.
The Have Nots, they will be your typical welfare recipients. Expecting a handout. For someone from the govert to take care of them, see to their needs. Typical. To be expected. Avoid if possible. Let natural selection weed them out.
But the Have Nots will also be white collar working, middle-class, suburbanites. I know of plenty of registered Republican, staunch conservatives, living in the shadow of Washington DC (Fairfax, Arlington, Georgetown), with no preps, skillsets and have full faith in the govert to do the right thing (this would be my parents). And when their children are hungry they will be just as inclined to "burn, loot and kill" as the welfare recipient. Perhaps even more so because they are educated, or of a higher tax bracket they are more entitled than a blue collar worker with three kids. Look at your conservative company CEOs. Their decision to close a factory in America, move it overseas, forcing thousands into unemployment, all for the bottom line. Dont think he would shoot you in the head for a loaf of bread? Think again.
If anything SHTF will be a equalizer. There will be no liberals or conservatives, Republicans or Democrats. No upper class, no lower class. Just the Haves and the Have Nots.
By the way, by your definition the 'Conservatives' out here in AFG would be the Taliban, and the liberals is everyone else. Be careful who you want in your 'conservative' camp. Disagree with some of their 'conservative' ideas, might find yourself a liberal.
One of the guys from Arizona I believe it is, will be on tomorrows, Tuesday 2/14/12 show, and supposedly he lost part of his left thumb from a gun accident while this was being taped. Don't know if they'll show it, well, wait, I'm sure they will as they'll show anything to show guns and gun owners as hazardous.
And has anyone realized or noticed that all these gun shows that are now on, Top Shots, Doomsday Preppers, American Gun and the rest, that they don't show nor do or will they allow commercials for or from gun, knife, ammunition or hunting manufacturers or distributors. What crap is that. They'll air this stuff but not promote what they show in the/their shows? Typical hypocrites!
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....And has anyone realized or noticed that all these gun shows that are now on, Top Shots, Doomsday Preppers, American Gun and the rest, that they don't show nor do or will they allow commercials for or from gun, knife, ammunition or hunting manufacturers or distributors. What crap is that. They'll air this stuff but not promote what they show in the/their shows? Typical hypocrites!
Uh, it is TV!
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One of the guys from Arizona I believe it is, will be on tomorrows, Tuesday 2/14/12 show, and supposedly he lost part of his left thumb from a gun accident while this was being taped. Don't know if they'll show it, well, wait, I'm sure they will as they'll show anything to show guns and gun owners as hazardous.
And has anyone realized or noticed that all these gun shows that are now on, Top Shots, Doomsday Preppers, American Gun and the rest, that they don't show nor do or will they allow commercials for or from gun, knife, ammunition or hunting manufacturers or distributors. What crap is that. They'll air this stuff but not promote what they show in the/their shows? Typical hypocrites!
Actually they had Henry & Uberti commercials for a bit.
But then again, most of the channels they are on.
Are all owned by the same Liberal companys.
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Channels from A+E Networks include:
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I hate to believe that there are people out there with nothing. But I know it is the sad truth. I watched my mom can fruits veggies my whole life. I didn't start doing it my self until a few years back. This year I got more into it and started getting 30 year shelf life items at the lds. They price on putting up these things are cheap and easy to do.
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Last time I checked when SHTF, it does NOT go in any "way." Most certainly it does not go in 'liberal' or 'conservative' way. SHTF does not care for political leanings, class standings, religious beliefs, race or if someone drives foreign or domestic.
Does that New England liberal hippy lady who cans and grows her own food sound like she is going to "burn, kill and loot?"
There will be two groups alright: The Haves and the Have Nots.
The Haves are those who had the foresight to have a degree of preps. This is your guy who has a bunker with 2 years worth of MREs, weapons, and ammo. This group also includes those hippy liberals who have a pantry stocked of canned food from their own garden. I might not care for their warm and fuzzy thinking, or the fact they choose not arm themselves (a view point I think would change after SHTF) but give credit where credit is due. At least they have the knowledge and skillset for the means of food production. They know the value of hard work and getting dirty. The guy in the bunker has a finite supply of MREs.
The Have Nots, they will be your typical welfare recipients. Expecting a handout. For someone from the govert to take care of them, see to their needs. Typical. To be expected. Avoid if possible. Let natural selection weed them out.
But the Have Nots will also be white collar working, middle-class, suburbanites. I know of plenty of registered Republican, staunch conservatives, living in the shadow of Washington DC (Fairfax, Arlington, Georgetown), with no preps, skillsets and have full faith in the govert to do the right thing (this would be my parents). And when their children are hungry they will be just as inclined to "burn, loot and kill" as the welfare recipient. Perhaps even more so because they are educated, or of a higher tax bracket they are more entitled than a blue collar worker with three kids. Look at your conservative company CEOs. Their decision to close a factory in America, move it overseas, forcing thousands into unemployment, all for the bottom line. Dont think he would shoot you in the head for a loaf of bread? Think again.
If anything SHTF will be a equalizer. There will be no liberals or conservatives, Republicans or Democrats. No upper class, no lower class. Just the Haves and the Have Nots.
By the way, by your definition the 'Conservatives' out here in AFG would be the Taliban, and the liberals is everyone else. Be careful who you want in your 'conservative' camp. Disagree with some of their 'conservative' ideas, might find yourself a liberal.
You bring up some interesting points but I ABSOLUTELY DISAGREE with your primary premise; the only difference between people being haves and have nots. This is wholly untrue, and largely what is wrong with America today--the exploitation of hate and discontent just because someone has more of something than someone else. This actually DOES follow belief system (and I do not mean anything about political parties). There is more than enough to go around, but liberals exploit arbitrary distinctions between people to have them hurt each other. Whether it is liberalism, fascism, communism, socialism, etc. the premise is always the same.
THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCES IN AMERICA TODAY in values systems. One are the good people who do what is right. The other is a selfish based system which grabs whatever it can. Although alot of this might be learned behavior I do not accept the fact that people degenerate into the latter (i.e. liberalism) as a default condition. I do not see that in the good people of my neighborhood, or many of the people I work with. We can do alot with a little, and will pitch in to help each other. Another word for this I believe is Christian; and Christ did quite a bit with just a few loaves of bread. He also works in many other religions who might not necessarily carry his name but do carry his spirit. We can't do what he did, but I have no doubt would harness what we have to help each other (and defend our community too against evil if need be) and we would survive. There is more than enough to go around; this should be apparent if you look at many 3rd world nations. Even in our WORST SHTF scenario we individually would be orders of magnitude better off than any of them on their best day. And somehow they manage to survive. We are truly blessed; we must just not let the cancer of nanny state liberalism warp our thinking into hurting each other through resentments that do not need to be there.
We see this in America in the stark contrast between the tea party and patriot demonstrations (largely peaceful; no real destruction of anything; people clean up after themselves) and the occupy movement (trash everything out, takers, leave a mess, violence, depravity, etc.).
I believe there are more good people than bad. You meet many of them on this site. They are people who are willing to share, but expect people to pull their own weight. They expect people to deal with life and work, not whine and take and steal. They are charitible, but do not accept scammers and freeloaders. They give a neighbor a helping hand, but do not accept welfare and nanny states as a way of life. Everyone is a have, and everyone is a have-not. Your worth depends on how you DEAL with your lot in life.
I might have alot of stuff, but this stuff is useless to me if I do not have the friends and family to share it with.
The job moving overseas is not because of the conservative, but because of the liberal who has screwed with the market (by "taxing the rich" and overregulating, and arbitrarily changing contract pecking orders to buy UAW votes, and picking winners and losers, and subsidizing competitors with unworkable green technology, and increasing risk while reducing payoff making such a hostile environment to anyone who would want to build anything--a market which should simply be left alone). You can see this on a mini-level by people fleeing welfare/business hostile nanny states like CA, IL, and NY for states like TX and SC; same thing happens on a world level.
And, strangely enough, alot of these core values DO follow the differences between liberalism (leftism) and conservatism. Go figure.
It is not what we have at the time or do not have at the time which makes us rich; it is the content of our character.
Compared to some, I'm a "have"..... our home is paid for, our vehicles are paid for, and I buy a gun pretty much whenever I feel like it. But I'm retired, but my retirement pay doesn't even cover my wife's health insurance premiums. I worked for 47.5 years to earn what I have, less three weeks unemployed, and 5 months to recover from cardiac surgery... and we deserve, and have earned every bit of what we have.
I'm also a "have not"..... If it were not for social security and service-connected VA benefits, I'd be on welfare. Our home is over 100 years old, and I spent more for my truck (99 Dodge), than I did for the house. We had to rebuild it, and not being Bob Vila, It'll never see "Better Homes and Gardens"... but it's ours.
Everyone's situation is different. I have few friends, but I'm a good friend. I'll do anything I can for my friends.
I don't have to have friends. I can be an acquaintance as well. I will "offer" to my friends, and to certain acquaintances, but to try and "take" from me makes me an enemy. While not my preference, I can be one of those too.
I sometimes wish I could buy "tact", but sometimes not having much works best.
Actually, it's cable/satellite. And that can and usually does make a difference. Meaning they tend to show have commercials for things they wouldn't dare on regular TV. I mean, you don't see Shooting USA, Shooting Gallery, Impossible shots and the like on "regular tv" do you? No, but it is on cable/satellite.
And even if there was or may have been one or two commercials here and there, it's nothing like commercials on and about things like...if you've taken this medicine and gotten this, this or this, you may be entitled to a settlement. Or, Viagra, Extenze and again, the like. Which again, you don't, I don't anyhow, see them advertised on regular TV all that much if at all. But then I don't really like nor do I watch local channels much anymore. But those to are mainly on cable/satellite. And the reason I make this comparison is I'm sure they all fall under the same rules and regulations of advertisement. It's just one is frowned upon. Now, which could it be?
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I thought since this thread is talking about the show I'd link to an item one of the guys that's going to be on tonight's show airing 2/14/2012 made. Pretty cool though kind of pricey to me. Made entirely in the USA though.
Interesting post, Jay. In many ways you sound a lot like me. A few years older perhaps, but a lot like me in many ways, especially the part about friends and acquaintances. Must be a midwestern thing.
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Interesting post, Jay. In many ways you sound a lot like me. A few years older perhaps, but a lot like me in many ways, especially the part about friends and acquaintances. Must be a midwestern thing.
Some of that comes from the school of hard knocks....
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