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Old 03-21-2012, 08:37 PM   #1
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Tracers in SHTF

Hi folks,
We just got our first AR-15 and I'm looking at options as far as ammo storage. I am wondering if any preppers out there stock up on tracers, if so, for what purposes, and is there a ratio for FMJ to Tracers that you keep? 5.56 NATO is about a cheap a tracer round as there is out there, and if I'm going to have tracer ammo, it's going to be in this caliber (unless you can recommend some cheap tracer 7.62x39). And is there any other sort of cheap "specialty ammo" you store as far as your preps?
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:32 PM   #2
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I personally don't stock tracers for a few reasons:

1. With enough practice, you'll know right where your shots went the moment you pull the trigger.

2. They can easily give away your position.

3. They are much better suited for higher rates of fire to "walk in" your shots, which is something I'll be avoiding in an effort to conserve my ammo supply and make every shot count.

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Old 03-21-2012, 09:35 PM   #3
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I see no merit in having tracers. I plan to stay under the radar as much as possible. That means no extemporaneous light, lasers, tracers, cow bells around my neck, bells on my toes or anything else that could compromise my position. If I am pressed into a defensive posture, I plan to be in a position to be able to shoot-n-scoot. Some may see the need - I don't. JHMO....

As for cheap ammo - I guess Wolf is about the "cheapest" I have. I bought everything else like my life might depend on it.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:38 PM   #4
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I dont see a point. Maybe get a box or two "just in case" But I dont see any reason too.

Just make sure you have a 1:7 barrel twist rate.
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Old 03-21-2012, 10:05 PM   #5
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Tracers are only useful for heavy full auto weapons. I bought some 556 tracers and they were a lot of fun but I'd never use them for anything else. I actual found it hard to seem them while looking through the sights. Had to tilt my head to one side to get a good look at where they were going. On another note, they did start a small brush fire on one occasion.
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:45 PM   #6
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The only thing I can think of is a tracer round sent at a well placed 20lb propane tank to take out a few zombies or at least create a diversion.

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Old 03-22-2012, 06:26 PM   #7
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The tracers worked great in Nam if you wanted to burn down the straw huts..
from a distance. Other than that there wasn't much use for them unless you wanted someone to guide you on target......
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:09 PM   #8
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Thanks for the input guys. I'm thinking it might be good for any night fighting (and good for directing fire). Like almost everyone of you said, it does give away your position with more than a few rounds. Plus the fire hazard is something to think about.

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Just make sure you have a 1:7 barrel twist rate.
Why is a 1:7 twist neccesary for tracers?
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:36 PM   #9
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tracers at night can definitly give away your position at night, plus its a distraction, and messes up your night vision.
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I will only use tracers to spot for my 106 recoiless rifle. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:44 AM   #11
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tracers at night can definitly give away your position at night, plus its a distraction, and messes up your night vision.
Muzzle flash will give away your position...a tracer will show them how to get there.

I remember during ITR we had a night fire exercise with a rifle company on line. For effect all rounds were tracers, no flares were used. When the company began shooting it looked like daylight...talk about heavy rain...!
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Old 03-23-2012, 08:59 AM   #12
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As others have said, I have no plans for tracers in my inventory. Should I find myself in a firefight, I don't plan on shooting more than 2 rounds from the same position.

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Loved the 106, jeep mounted.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:10 AM   #13
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Muzzle flash will give away your position...a tracer will show them how to get there.

I remember during ITR we had a night fire exercise with a rifle company on line. For effect all rounds were tracers, no flares were used. When the company began shooting it looked like daylight...talk about heavy rain...!
I bet that was a blast to watch
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:30 AM   #14
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No I don't. As for the reason, you know what they say.

Tracers work both ways
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:42 AM   #15
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Not to be redundant, but yeah, they show where they came from and you risk setting the boonies on fire, thus destroying your safe environment.
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:13 PM   #16
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As others have said, I have no plans for tracers in my inventory. Should I find myself in a firefight, I don't plan on shooting more than 2 rounds from the same position.

oldjarhead,

Loved the 106, jeep mounted.
The Corps used to mount them on the old "Mule" four wheel. That was pretty awesome too.

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I bet that was a blast to watch
Oh yeah, it really made ya respect all that infantry rifle power.
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Old 03-23-2012, 01:33 PM   #17
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As most everyone else said they will point both ways. I can think of no practical purpose they would serve me, doesn't mean there couldn't be one just that I cannot think of it at the moment.
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:35 PM   #18
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OJH, when you were in, didn't they mount them on buckboards?

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Old 03-23-2012, 05:47 PM   #19
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No direct experience, but the only thing I might see them usefull for myself would be the next to 3 or 4 last rounds in the magazine as an indicator that your going to run dry. Of course pulling the trigger on an open bolt is a pretty good indicator too. Since day one Iv'e made a habbit of counting rounds (more for safety reasons) never had to shoot under any kind of real stress, so who knows how that would pan out?
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OJH, when you were in, didn't they mount them on buckboards?

Jay told me to say that!!LOL!!
Well, HR, I'd have to say you're close.

Mules were a buckboard with a small engine and a steering wheel but somewhat smaller...and on occasion they were pulled by real mules...so in a sense...yep.
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