Minimum ammo stockpile? - Page 3

meatloaf · 07-17-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy

alot talk about how many guns you can carry . but what about if you got out on a trip when something happens and you just happen to get into a fire fight and happen to loose a weapon ?if your one of the lucky one's like most uf us with multple guns you can always try to make it back home and get another one. like they say don't keep all your eggs in the same nest.

If you are forced to bug out what makes you think you can get back home?

Deep13 · 07-19-2007, 11:11 AM

3000 rds. 0.357 for SW revolver or Marlin carbine, mostly Fed. Am. Eagle 158gr. SP.
8 or 9 thousand 0.22LR for rifles, pistols and handguns.

Also
500 rds. 0.38 Sp. +P JHP for revolver.
1500 rds. 0.38 Sp. ball for revolver.
2000 rds. Fed. Am. Eagle 9mm Para. for Beretta.
500 rds. JHP 0.380 for Beretta.
100 rds. 0.22 WMR for Ruger revolver.

These are the 'burbs. There is no way that everyone with hunting guns can live off the varmits. There aren't enough of them. The plan during a pandemic, power failure, fuel shortage or uber-tornado is to stay put living off preserved food and water or filtered stream water. The camp stove can cook it with stock-piled gas. In the event of a concerted effort by a group of well-armed men, the plan would be to escape with as much rations and 0.357 ammunition as the Honda Civic hybrid (long-range, reliable) can carry. There is no way I can fight off a team effort without being killed myself even if I had a full-auto M14.

NRAJOE · 07-19-2007, 12:35 PM

I just got 7 500 rd cases of .308 match just for helping my landlord sell his deceased buddies guns and getting him such a good deal...

Gives me about 50,000 rds of various ammo now...

Mooseman684 · 07-19-2007, 03:00 PM

You are catching up to me Joe !!!
Rich

nighthawk80 · 07-20-2007, 11:00 AM

Well, I have 12 arrows equipped with 100gr target tips for my PSE Impala.
Also, last weekend I spurged and bought 1oo pellets for my two pellet rifles.
I know, how am I going to haul all that around? But with my killer pack monkey!!!

Triggerjerk · 07-20-2007, 04:42 PM

I currently only have .22's. I keep a few hundred rounds of good CCI as emergency ammo, and I usually have a few bricks of cheap stuff around for inexpensive target/plinking. I keep a box of 100 CCI's in the auto at all times. I can't envision a situation where I'd have to bail out of the auto and run with a gun and 100 rounds of ammo, but I'm covered there anyhow.

I also can't envision a situation where I'd suffer siege and attack where I live in New Hampshire. I'm not in New Orleans or L.A. My biggest problem is when the electricity goes out in the winter.

bravo30 · 07-28-2007, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ezearln

Papa it would really depend on your individual situation/location. What other resources you possess, the population density, city, suburb, semi rural, rural, end of the road.
I realize my current ammo depot is insufficient for my needs in MY current situation. However that is improving. What I feel for MY current situation to be minimal is the following:

500 rds .30/06 ball
100 rds .30/06 180 gr SP
500 rds .45 ACP Ball
500 rds .38 158 gr SP
1000 rds .22 LR HPHV
1000 rds .22 WMR HP
250 rds 12 ga 00 Buck shot
250 rds 12 ga #4 Buck
100 rds 12 ga #6 shot
100 rds 12 ga slugs
and a few boxes here and there of the esoteric goodies I possess.

dude that would last a week here in philly ..... i need atleast 7k 7.62x39
2k 7.62x54r
2k 7.62x25
2k .45 auto
2k OObuck
i have a saiga12 with a 20rd drum

Mannlicher · 08-02-2007, 07:18 PM

There are two opposing factors at work here. If you stay put, in a time of great social strife and conflict, there is no way one guy can defend against the world. Most likely, whoever kills you will worry about what ever ammo supply you have left.
If you bug out, there is no way you can carry your thousands and thousands of rounds of whatever.
Gets complicated, yes?

Triggerjerk · 08-02-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mannlicher

There are two opposing factors at work here. If you stay put, in a time of great social strife and conflict, there is no way one guy can defend against the world. Most likely, whoever kills you will worry about what ever ammo supply you have left.
If you bug out, there is no way you can carry your thousands and thousands of rounds of whatever.
Gets complicated, yes?

An interesting point. Used to be, and still is to some people, a practice to have a carbine/handgun combo that takes the same ammo. That way you're covered whether you run or fort up.

I only have .22's right now, as I just started shooting again, and am in a bit of a financial difficulty as far as luxury purchases. So I have a .22 combo. Same ammo. Those Cowboy Action Shooters do this with their guns.

If I were a shooter with many different guns I would make a decision as to what my SHTF guns are, and have extra ammo for them set aside. My house is not bullet proof, so I would lose any siege and attack eventually. How much ammo can I carry? As Mannlicher says, it gets complicated.

ArkansasHunter · 08-02-2007, 10:49 PM

Hold up there Mannlicher !!!! WELCOME TO GUN AND GAME We hope you like the place so hang around and enjoy the site feller...A.H

CrazyIvan · 08-02-2007, 11:46 PM

I want to keep light and fast.

I've got a 24" barreled Bushmaster with a big scope and a bipod. I suppose if I wanted to make my way slowly and covertly, I could. But, it's weight is not really conducive to rapid movement on foot.

I'm building an M4 Bushy. I would prefer this weapon to carry with me in case of SHTF.

I also have a little .380 Auto (Walther PPK look-a-like). It is very easily cleaned and used. It's ammo is lightweight and effective. The gun itself is fairly lightweight as well.

I also just bought a 1911 variant gun, officer's model, so it is a bit smaller. .45 ACP ammo is not real cheap, but not too expensive. It is pretty heavy though, compared to the .223 and the .380A. So, though I would like to take this gun with me, I think it would be left behind were I to take myself by foot away from the shtf area.

Right now, I have about the following:

.223 - 1,000
.380A - 750
.45A - 400

If shtf to the point I would need to evacuate, I would take all my ammo, weapons' supplies, and weapons....as well as my SHTF crate I put together. I would also stop at the gun shop about 2 blocks from my house and take whatever I could get my hands on considering the fact that the folks there wouldn't shoot me on sight...

But, if I were to leave my vehicle on foot, or leave my home on foot, I would take the M4 and the .380 with about 500 rounds each along with my SHTF backpack from my SHTF crate with the super-essentials...Looks like a military ruck-sack with supplies in it. This would last me long enough to make it to wilderness where I could revert to living off of the land.

I would suggest sticking to ammo that is commonplace. .22lr, .223, 9mm, .40S&W (maybe), and 45 Auto. 12 ga. shotgun is very common too. Heck, most places that sell ammo, put this out on the shelf, not even locked up...lol. Basically, ammo that you can find at a Wal Mart or gun shop or something on your way out of town...(I've even seen 12ga. ammo sitting freely on the shelf at wal mart)

cubbieman · 08-03-2007, 09:07 PM

we have 12 gauge on the shelf at my wal mart

Kale · 08-05-2007, 05:39 PM

I'm seeing a lot of ammo listed by some people here and I have a question for some of the big stockpilers:
If you need to use 50,000 rounds of ammo how long do you think you're going to last, unless you have say 100 buddies backing you up?

You'd be better off picking something that you can 'scrounge from the land', keeping a moderate stockpile of that ammo. Unless you live in a place with a heckuva good well for water, and plentiful game and farmland you're going to have to move around at some point.
9mm, .22 LR, 12 Gau, and of course .223 seem the most obvious choices.

Big&Tall · 08-14-2007, 12:15 PM

Unless you have enough people to cover all 4 corners of your house I suggest as much as you can carry. Now if your making a stand understand the fact you can only shoot one gun at a time I suggest at least 500 to 1000 rounds for each gun you own minimum. Since I have great neighbors, I have enough for them to help in defending our neighborhood. Remember strength in numbers.

backwoodsguy01 · 08-14-2007, 12:55 PM

i am currently very low on ammo,
got 4rnds for my .41mag
20rnds for .30-06
100rnds for my .12 GA.
60rnds for .303 british
500rnds for .22
but hey im only 15 my dads got the rest! lol

oh yeah and 150rnds for .270

Sparkytfl · 08-14-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Triggerjerk

I also can't envision a situation where I'd suffer siege and attack where I live in New Hampshire. I'm not in New Orleans or L.A. My biggest problem is when the electricity goes out in the winter.

It's kind of like that around here. Every few years we get a bad ice storm with people having no power for a week or two, stores mobbed, people stealing neighbors generators. I can imagine if we get a really bad one, people might resort to breaking into houses for food and general looting. I figure even one box of target loads and my over under would be good enough to scare those types away.

I currently have a single 50cal can for reserve ammo. It'll hold a couple bricks of 22, about 100 shotshells, and 200 large rifle rounds.

AK Hunter · 08-14-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy

alot talk about how many guns you can carry . but what about if you got out on a trip when something happens and you just happen to get into a fire fight and happen to loose a weapon ?if your one of the lucky one's like most uf us with multple guns you can always try to make it back home and get another one. like they say don't keep all your eggs in the same nest.

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Originally Posted by meatloaf

If you are forced to bug out what makes you think you can get back home?

I don't! That's why I keep a few guns at a buddys house. If you spread them out there will be a gun somewhere you can get your hands on.

Triggerjerk · 08-14-2007, 06:58 PM

This may not work for people who have a different gun and caliber for every day of the week. Those who carry a handgun can leave a box of ammo in the car. I have a box of .25 auto and a box of .22 LR. Whichever gun I carry with me, I have a box of ammo for it. 50 rounds plus two magazines is a lot better than just two magazines. If you need to bail out of your car, you can grab the box and run. This can be good if you travel back roads at night, where there is no safe lighted area to go to or help to flag down.

billy · 08-14-2007, 07:28 PM

1 .45acp round for when my house is surrounded by the zombie hordes.

Cyrille · 08-14-2007, 07:30 PM

I don't have a diffrent caliber for everyday of the week but I do have a lot of .45 caliber weapons, revolvers, rifles, pistols some take longer cartridges than others but the preponderance of the weapons take the .45 caliber LC.
Thanks for the tip, I usually carry at least 100 rounds per weapon when going to the range.

07-19-2007, 12:35 PM	#43
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 18,992 Trader Rating: (0)	I just got 7 500 rd cases of .308 match just for helping my landlord sell his deceased buddies guns and getting him such a good deal... Gives me about 50,000 rds of various ammo now... __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

07-19-2007, 03:00 PM	#44
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,183 Trader Rating: (0)	You are catching up to me Joe !!! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

08-02-2007, 11:46 PM	#51
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,299 Trader Rating: (0)	I want to keep light and fast. I've got a 24" barreled Bushmaster with a big scope and a bipod. I suppose if I wanted to make my way slowly and covertly, I could. But, it's weight is not really conducive to rapid movement on foot. I'm building an M4 Bushy. I would prefer this weapon to carry with me in case of SHTF. I also have a little .380 Auto (Walther PPK look-a-like). It is very easily cleaned and used. It's ammo is lightweight and effective. The gun itself is fairly lightweight as well. I also just bought a 1911 variant gun, officer's model, so it is a bit smaller. .45 ACP ammo is not real cheap, but not too expensive. It is pretty heavy though, compared to the .223 and the .380A. So, though I would like to take this gun with me, I think it would be left behind were I to take myself by foot away from the shtf area. Right now, I have about the following: .223 - 1,000 .380A - 750 .45A - 400 If shtf to the point I would need to evacuate, I would take all my ammo, weapons' supplies, and weapons....as well as my SHTF crate I put together. I would also stop at the gun shop about 2 blocks from my house and take whatever I could get my hands on considering the fact that the folks there wouldn't shoot me on sight... But, if I were to leave my vehicle on foot, or leave my home on foot, I would take the M4 and the .380 with about 500 rounds each along with my SHTF backpack from my SHTF crate with the super-essentials...Looks like a military ruck-sack with supplies in it. This would last me long enough to make it to wilderness where I could revert to living off of the land. I would suggest sticking to ammo that is commonplace. .22lr, .223, 9mm, .40S&W (maybe), and 45 Auto. 12 ga. shotgun is very common too. Heck, most places that sell ammo, put this out on the shelf, not even locked up...lol. Basically, ammo that you can find at a Wal Mart or gun shop or something on your way out of town...(I've even seen 12ga. ammo sitting freely on the shelf at wal mart) __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me Last edited by CrazyIvan; 08-02-2007 at 11:49 PM.

08-14-2007, 06:58 PM	#58
Triggerjerk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 978 Trader Rating: (0)	This may not work for people who have a different gun and caliber for every day of the week. Those who carry a handgun can leave a box of ammo in the car. I have a box of .25 auto and a box of .22 LR. Whichever gun I carry with me, I have a box of ammo for it. 50 rounds plus two magazines is a lot better than just two magazines. If you need to bail out of your car, you can grab the box and run. This can be good if you travel back roads at night, where there is no safe lighted area to go to or help to flag down. __________________ We old dogs can learn new tricks. We just may not like performng them. TJ

08-14-2007, 07:28 PM	#59
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,682 Trader Rating: (0)	1 .45acp round for when my house is surrounded by the zombie hordes. __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya!

07-19-2007, 11:11 AM	#42
Deep13 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 131 Trader Rating: (0)	3000 rds. 0.357 for SW revolver or Marlin carbine, mostly Fed. Am. Eagle 158gr. SP. 8 or 9 thousand 0.22LR for rifles, pistols and handguns. Also 500 rds. 0.38 Sp. +P JHP for revolver. 1500 rds. 0.38 Sp. ball for revolver. 2000 rds. Fed. Am. Eagle 9mm Para. for Beretta. 500 rds. JHP 0.380 for Beretta. 100 rds. 0.22 WMR for Ruger revolver. These are the 'burbs. There is no way that everyone with hunting guns can live off the varmits. There aren't enough of them. The plan during a pandemic, power failure, fuel shortage or uber-tornado is to stay put living off preserved food and water or filtered stream water. The camp stove can cook it with stock-piled gas. In the event of a concerted effort by a group of well-armed men, the plan would be to escape with as much rations and 0.357 ammunition as the Honda Civic hybrid (long-range, reliable) can carry. There is no way I can fight off a team effort without being killed myself even if I had a full-auto M14.

07-20-2007, 11:00 AM	#45
nighthawk80 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Just south of Central Indiana Posts: 395 Trader Rating: (0)	Well, I have 12 arrows equipped with 100gr target tips for my PSE Impala. Also, last weekend I spurged and bought 1oo pellets for my two pellet rifles. I know, how am I going to haul all that around? But with my killer pack monkey!!!

07-20-2007, 04:42 PM	#46
Triggerjerk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 978 Trader Rating: (0)	I currently only have .22's. I keep a few hundred rounds of good CCI as emergency ammo, and I usually have a few bricks of cheap stuff around for inexpensive target/plinking. I keep a box of 100 CCI's in the auto at all times. I can't envision a situation where I'd have to bail out of the auto and run with a gun and 100 rounds of ammo, but I'm covered there anyhow. I also can't envision a situation where I'd suffer siege and attack where I live in New Hampshire. I'm not in New Orleans or L.A. My biggest problem is when the electricity goes out in the winter.

08-02-2007, 07:18 PM	#48
Mannlicher Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0)	There are two opposing factors at work here. If you stay put, in a time of great social strife and conflict, there is no way one guy can defend against the world. Most likely, whoever kills you will worry about what ever ammo supply you have left. If you bug out, there is no way you can carry your thousands and thousands of rounds of whatever. Gets complicated, yes?

08-02-2007, 10:49 PM	#50
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,465 Trader Rating: (0)	Hold up there Mannlicher !!!! WELCOME TO GUN AND GAME We hope you like the place so hang around and enjoy the site feller...A.H

08-03-2007, 09:07 PM	#52
cubbieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,466 Trader Rating: (0)	we have 12 gauge on the shelf at my wal mart

08-05-2007, 05:39 PM	#53
Kale Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cowtown, Canada Posts: 62 Trader Rating: (0)	I'm seeing a lot of ammo listed by some people here and I have a question for some of the big stockpilers: If you need to use 50,000 rounds of ammo how long do you think you're going to last, unless you have say 100 buddies backing you up? You'd be better off picking something that you can 'scrounge from the land', keeping a moderate stockpile of that ammo. Unless you live in a place with a heckuva good well for water, and plentiful game and farmland you're going to have to move around at some point. 9mm, .22 LR, 12 Gau, and of course .223 seem the most obvious choices.

08-14-2007, 12:15 PM	#54
Big&Tall Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: St. Petersburg Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0)	Unless you have enough people to cover all 4 corners of your house I suggest as much as you can carry. Now if your making a stand understand the fact you can only shoot one gun at a time I suggest at least 500 to 1000 rounds for each gun you own minimum. Since I have great neighbors, I have enough for them to help in defending our neighborhood. Remember strength in numbers.

08-14-2007, 12:55 PM	#55
backwoodsguy01 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0)	i am currently very low on ammo, got 4rnds for my .41mag 20rnds for .30-06 100rnds for my .12 GA. 60rnds for .303 british 500rnds for .22 but hey im only 15 my dads got the rest! lol oh yeah and 150rnds for .270

08-14-2007, 07:30 PM	#60
Cyrille Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 1,736 Trader Rating: (0)	I don't have a diffrent caliber for everyday of the week but I do have a lot of .45 caliber weapons, revolvers, rifles, pistols some take longer cartridges than others but the preponderance of the weapons take the .45 caliber LC. Thanks for the tip, I usually carry at least 100 rounds per weapon when going to the range.