Pistol Caliber Carbines -good idea? - Page 2

BattleRifleG3 · 12-21-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 22-rimfire

The Marlin 1894 in 41 mag has a great deal of appeal to me. The gun in the new 327 Federal has possiblities as well. I tend to shoot more with a rifle and the cost of ammunition is a big factor (as well as my family budget). As a result, I still have not acquired the 1894 in 41 mag and they are getting more expensive all the time. I saw about $80 price increase in the last year.

327 Federal? Do tell more!

K75RT · 12-21-2007, 02:49 PM

BRG3,
I found this article about the .327 Federal. Looks to be a good cartridge that will become history just like the .32H&R and the 9mm Federal, jmho.
The New .327 Federal Magnum in Ruger’s SP101 Compact Six-Shot Revolver

22-rimfire · 12-21-2007, 10:56 PM

Marlin has not made it just yet. I don't want to mislead you. I expect they will once Ruger starts selling guns in 327. The new issue of Shooting Times has an article on the 327. I really didn't think much of the new caliber at first as I thought "why bother", but it offers some significant advantages to the 32 mag and it had more muzzle energy than the 38spl+P. A Marlin offering would only make sense since they offer the 1894 in 357, 41 mag and 44 mag now.

I'm a 41 mag fan in case you have not seen me on the other forums. As an aside, I got a Merry Chistmas email from this forum and logged in. I hadn't even posted a single time since 2005 and forgot all about it. Changed that. The forum is bookmarked now and I will be a regular.

RMTactical · 12-26-2007, 03:11 AM

If I have a shoulder fired weapon, I want the power of a rifle.

I am not big on PCC's for serious uses.

SwedeSteve · 12-28-2007, 02:09 AM

BAH! Hum-Bullet!

bored2bhere · 12-28-2007, 09:38 AM

thats just his preference swede steve in fact its what i would go with to . Rifle calibers are generally more powerful have more range although ammo is heavier in the end its just personal preferenc like ar or ak and 45 and 9mm its just ur choice

TNRICK55 · 01-28-2008, 03:54 PM

WHAT I WANT TO KNOW ARE THEY ANY GOOD FOR SURVIVAL WEAPON

billy · 01-28-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TNRICK55

WHAT I WANT TO KNOW ARE THEY ANY GOOD FOR SURVIVAL WEAPON

ive never seen one that wasnt just an ok toy.

i keep thinking of a .454casull levergun.
a puma

BattleRifleG3 · 01-28-2008, 04:06 PM

A 460 S&W levergun would really be great. Pack it full of 45 Colt for short range, 454 for substantial power, and 460 for the max.

billy · 01-28-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

A 460 S&W levergun would really be great. Pack it full of 45 Colt for short range, 454 for substantial power, and 460 for the max.

that WOULD be a heluva deal wouldnt it?

nathangdad · 01-28-2008, 07:20 PM

On one had if you like these calibers they will be more accurate (so will you) in a carbine than in a short handgun barrel.

On the other hand, they are underpowered for what you could really have with a carbine.

Personally, it is a matter of what you choose. For me, I would not choose a carbine in a handgun caliber but that is me and I know others in this forum will disagree.

single action · 01-29-2008, 01:40 PM

I have owned and used 2 handgun/revolver combos over the years and I think they are a good idea.
The first I had was a marlin 1894c in .357 mag that I used with a ruger police service six and a ruger blackhawk. Both handguns were excellent but I never could get better than 5-6" groups at 50 yards with the carbine. I know It must just have been a lemon, every other marlin I have ever owned has been very accurate. Luck of the draw I guess.
The second combo , the one I am using now, ( and will keep using until they or I wear out0 is a winchester trapper .357 with the same blackhawk and a ruger sp101. The winchester is very accurate for a carbine and has taken several deer, coyote, coon, rabbit, feral dogs ect and I am comfortable with it out to about 100-125 yards but it is at its best at under 100 yards.
It really depends on what you plan on using it for and the terrain you plan on using it in. When I lived in the southern nevada desert, it didnt really make much sense, (except for a small game gun) because any defense situation that would develop would most likely be out of the weapons effective range. It would really suck to have someone shooting at you with a 06 or something from several hundred yards away in open flat terrain and only be able to lob some .357's in there general direction.
But..... once I moved to the ozarks, with its hilly tree covered terrain, the .357 combo becomes much more viable. Hunting here if you try very hard is usually an under 100 yard mostly under 75 yard proposition. If you keep to cover, any contact with an aggressor would be much closer also. So it makes more sense. NO I am NOT advocating the carbine as a battle implement., but as a everyday truck gun, along with your carry side arm it will take care of most of your daily farm chores, hunting duties and defend you in a pinch. It is much lighter,more compact and is easier to carry in a vehicle than most rifles and wont freak out law enforcement or most people (excluding rabid anti-gunners of course) if they see it in your vehicle.
I have been using mine for 1994 and I have no complaints, but when I am expecting longer shots or trouble, I grab a rifle instead.

12-21-2007, 10:56 PM	#23
22-rimfire Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 57	Marlin has not made it just yet. I don't want to mislead you. I expect they will once Ruger starts selling guns in 327. The new issue of Shooting Times has an article on the 327. I really didn't think much of the new caliber at first as I thought "why bother", but it offers some significant advantages to the 32 mag and it had more muzzle energy than the 38spl+P. A Marlin offering would only make sense since they offer the 1894 in 357, 41 mag and 44 mag now. I'm a 41 mag fan in case you have not seen me on the other forums. As an aside, I got a Merry Chistmas email from this forum and logged in. I hadn't even posted a single time since 2005 and forgot all about it. Changed that. The forum is bookmarked now and I will be a regular. Last edited by 22-rimfire; 12-21-2007 at 11:03 PM.

12-26-2007, 03:11 AM	#24
RMTactical Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rocky Mountains Posts: 173	If I have a shoulder fired weapon, I want the power of a rifle. I am not big on PCC's for serious uses. __________________ rockymountaintactical.net

12-28-2007, 02:09 AM	#25
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 10,372 Images: 1	BAH! Hum-Bullet! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

12-28-2007, 09:38 AM	#26
bored2bhere Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: mississippi Posts: 402 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 3	thats just his preference swede steve in fact its what i would go with to . Rifle calibers are generally more powerful have more range although ammo is heavier in the end its just personal preferenc like ar or ak and 45 and 9mm its just ur choice __________________ "Only the dead have seen the end of war"-Apolos

01-28-2008, 03:54 PM	#27
TNRICK55 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: TENNESSEE Posts: 74	PISTOL CROSSBOWS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW ARE THEY ANY GOOD FOR SURVIVAL WEAPON

12-21-2007, 02:49 PM	#22
K75RT Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 328	BRG3, I found this article about the .327 Federal. Looks to be a good cartridge that will become history just like the .32H&R and the 9mm Federal, jmho. The New .327 Federal Magnum in Ruger’s SP101 Compact Six-Shot Revolver

01-28-2008, 04:06 PM	#29
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	A 460 S&W levergun would really be great. Pack it full of 45 Colt for short range, 454 for substantial power, and 460 for the max. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

01-28-2008, 07:20 PM	#31
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,484	Two sides of a coin On one had if you like these calibers they will be more accurate (so will you) in a carbine than in a short handgun barrel. On the other hand, they are underpowered for what you could really have with a carbine. Personally, it is a matter of what you choose. For me, I would not choose a carbine in a handgun caliber but that is me and I know others in this forum will disagree.

01-29-2008, 01:40 PM	#32
single action Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33	I have owned and used 2 handgun/revolver combos over the years and I think they are a good idea. The first I had was a marlin 1894c in .357 mag that I used with a ruger police service six and a ruger blackhawk. Both handguns were excellent but I never could get better than 5-6" groups at 50 yards with the carbine. I know It must just have been a lemon, every other marlin I have ever owned has been very accurate. Luck of the draw I guess. The second combo , the one I am using now, ( and will keep using until they or I wear out0 is a winchester trapper .357 with the same blackhawk and a ruger sp101. The winchester is very accurate for a carbine and has taken several deer, coyote, coon, rabbit, feral dogs ect and I am comfortable with it out to about 100-125 yards but it is at its best at under 100 yards. It really depends on what you plan on using it for and the terrain you plan on using it in. When I lived in the southern nevada desert, it didnt really make much sense, (except for a small game gun) because any defense situation that would develop would most likely be out of the weapons effective range. It would really suck to have someone shooting at you with a 06 or something from several hundred yards away in open flat terrain and only be able to lob some .357's in there general direction. But..... once I moved to the ozarks, with its hilly tree covered terrain, the .357 combo becomes much more viable. Hunting here if you try very hard is usually an under 100 yard mostly under 75 yard proposition. If you keep to cover, any contact with an aggressor would be much closer also. So it makes more sense. NO I am NOT advocating the carbine as a battle implement., but as a everyday truck gun, along with your carry side arm it will take care of most of your daily farm chores, hunting duties and defend you in a pinch. It is much lighter,more compact and is easier to carry in a vehicle than most rifles and wont freak out law enforcement or most people (excluding rabid anti-gunners of course) if they see it in your vehicle. I have been using mine for 1994 and I have no complaints, but when I am expecting longer shots or trouble, I grab a rifle instead.