It's nice to talk about survival situations but....

[teenagegunwacho]

back to the original question, i actually hope to get lost this deer season in the mountains, you probally think its stupid but it would show my dad that i can "make it",

P.S. is there something about you dads that make you put your kids down... or is it trying to convince yourself that your kids are not growing up when they ar

[mos19k]

Originally Posted by teenagegunwacho

back to the original question, i actually hope to get lost this deer season in the mountains, you probally think its stupid but it would show my dad that i can "make it",

P.S. is there something about you dads that make you put your kids down... or is it trying to convince yourself that your kids are not growing up when they ar

It means he loves you and doesn't want you getting hurt or doing something stupid like getting lost in the woods. Be glad he cares about you and know he does it out of love and not malice.

[ezearln]

teenagegunwacho, most Dads aren't trying to put their sons or daughters down, often times believe it or not it's a challenge they hope you take to prove them wrong! I want my children to be tougher, stronger, kinder, wiser, more loving, better educated, more successful, healthier and more able to adapt and overcome whatever life throws at them than I am. But as a father of both a son and two daughters I know I cannot say that to them in that way because then I am just preaching. No I would rather have them get annoyed at me and tackle a problem and solve it based upon the upbringing and experiences I as a parent gave them and their own ingenuity! So that they can smugly look me in the eye and say "See I told you I could do it!!!"

[neophyte]

teenagegunwacho: Sir; whether you like it or not; these folks have given you some mighty fine suggestions and support.

Sir; I've had the ?pleasure? of spending much time alone in hostile situations, were there bears, snakes, spiders, mo'skeets, and ever other of Gods creature trying to eat me.

Weather was everything you could imagine. Cold, Hot, muggy, arid, nasty rain, wind, hail, snow. Sir; I could go on.

Sir; there were some who were trying to shoot me.

Now which do you think is worse?
Being eaten by an animal, or having some one shoot you and leaving you to be eaten by the animals? Crawling out with holes from bullets, knife wounds, are they any different than a broken leg, twisted knee, or falling into a raven.

Sir; being fairly confident of myself didn't change facts.

Getting lost aint good.

Sir; your mother, father, brothers, sisters, will all be tremendously affected.
Placing the lives of the ones looking for you in danger, placing you friends and family in emotional turmoil.

Is this fair to them. I don't know one thing about you, nor you of me. Sir; without plenty and I mean plenty of planning; don't go off into the bush without several of your family and friends knowing where you'll be.

I am not preaching; My thoughts are not shoving something down your throat. My thoughts are about being considerate of yourself and others.
It is your responsibility.

[teenagegunwacho]

were you in the service

and where you trying to get my attention by say "sir" all the time.
anyways thanks for yalls responses dont you think that I aint listened to what yall had to say

[neophyte]

Sir; this is my vocabulary; my little one at church, folks at the mall, or people I spend time with daily.

My saying Sir; at different points; is identifying the points of change.

Yes I was.

[teenagegunwacho]

coool

[meatloaf]

Originally Posted by teenagegunwacho

back to the original question, i actually hope to get lost this deer season in the mountains, you probally think its stupid but it would show my dad that i can "make it",

P.S. is there something about you dads that make you put your kids down... or is it trying to convince yourself that your kids are not growing up when they ar

You should be happy you have a dad. Many people grow up with out one. You sound kind of spoiled what do your parents do?

[tlarkin]

Though I am a Sci-Fi fan and yes I do like end of the world apocalypse stories, even the ones dating back to the Babylonian Apocalpyse where two giant creatures battle it out and destroy the Earth, I know that it is not likely to happen. I do live in reality, or at least attempt to.

What I do see as a very feasible survival scenario for myself is a total infrastructure failure. All of our technology fails and where does that leave us? A decent sized EMP will take out a whole city. Everything we take for granted is ran by machinery. Everything.

Then what happens in that scenario for me? I live in a city with like 2 million people, perhaps more now, and its pretty wide spread. If no one had power, running water, heat or A/C I think it would turn into a survival situation. Not a man versus nature, but man versus man's nature more like it. Riots, melee's, looting, survival of the fittest, law enforcement, quarantine, so on and so forth.

We have become very depended on finite resources and who is to say that we will find a better way before we run out.

I am not one to fear monger or to be paranoid either. I took off my in foil hat a long time ago. However, now that we have experienced terrorism first hand in this country and see what they are capable of even when we have intelligence of their operations, means they could very well attack of infrastructure. That in turn our country into chaos. Once you have masses of people running around scared and willing to whatever it takes to survive you have another situation on your hands.

[teenagegunwacho]

Originally Posted by meatloaf

You should be happy you have a dad. Many people grow up with out one. You sound kind of spoiled what do your parents do?

look yall got the wrong idea i aint got nothin against my dad. he acts childish sometimes, even his own mother said that he never got to grow up. and i know a boy my age who does not have a father and i feel sorry for him. i love my dad who is very hard working. i think he's going through a mild mid life crisis because when its just me and him hes usually alright..but when hes around his coughgirlfriendcough he gets cocky sometimes but i geuss im the same way and just dont relize it.

and i set store by the things hes told me for instance

" youll live alot longer if you keep your mouth shut and listen "
He cuts trees for a living.
as for being spoiled in a way i am but before you mark me down as a person to ignore in your little black book listen
i do not have a cell phone
i do not have an ipod
i do not have an Xbox 360
i do not have an PS3
i am not the most popular guy in school
my dad buys my all around (school,church,huntin,fishin,workin,etc)(which happens to be one pair of boots) at TSC so he can get it writ off on his taxes.
i had to buy my own shells for my K98
when i turn 16 i have to buy my own gas and pay my part of his whatever you call it
i dont miss a whuppin if i fight with my brother however old i am
they still hurt like i dont know what
as for the car ill drive beat up S10 pickup i got no rejections
also if i ask a girl out my dad wants me to pay my part her pay hers.he dont want me to be a gentleman and pay for both of us which makes some kind of sense...
if i want break i buy it or if i dont have money i get it from my friend and pay it back
i usually buy at least 2 of my own meals each week at school with my own money

for the spoiled
i go to the pawn shop about 3 times a month
we have a boat
we have atvs
so you can draw your own conclusions about that

please replie to this because i want to know what you have to say

have i got on yalls bad side by posting that because i didnt me to

[neophyte]

teenagegunwhaco: Sir; I don't see a problem. I believe in your honesty or wouldn't have wasted yours or my time.
Concerned. Yes.
For you and your safety. Don't waste your time thinking what we think bad about you. Obviously many of us are listening to you. You sharing is good.

Sir; it's called communicating.
I find your thinking as good. I see that you are thinking.
We'uns are older and recognize you as a growing young person who is 'chomping' at the "bit" to grow up faster.

Don't rush these years; enjoy, play, goof off, go fishing, go hunting, and the girls thing
Don't waste not being a child.
Life is great, life is fun, and responsibility comes with it all.

Sir; I do believe all that have responded have enjoyed remembering us being the 'Youngster' just a chomping to get on with life.

Sir; it'll come; let it come naturally.

[teenagegunwacho]

sir yes sir

[neophyte]

teenagegunwhaco: Sir; you are welcome.

[mym1a]

sounds like your parents care about you when your out in the mountains?, you could be in a lot worse places? enjoy and continue to make them proud.

[tlarkin]

what he is referring to is a rite of passage, and in many older cultures they did things like putting the youth out to fend for themself and or made them go hunting all by themself and were not allowed back until they killed something. It is a natural thing and has been done for centuries over and over again in almost every society.

Really, today a rite of passage is more like learning to drive a car for the first time or graduating high school. Not as glorious as some previous cultures but you are gaining something they never really did. A full education.

[neophyte]

tlarkin: Sir; good read
When I was very young we had an 'outhouse', and we weren't poor.

Snow rain sleet or night; when we had to go! You go.
I have plowed behind a mule
I have turned potatoes
I have worked in chicken houses
I have dug ditches
I have cleaned gutters
I have made the bed
I learned to drive on a tractor
I learned to remove stumps with fertilizer.
I learned that "I" had better take care of the animals; first
I learned to be respectful
They wouldn't let me cook
They wouldn't let me throw things away [could make things later]
before I was 15

AND "I" aint nothing special

[Dan22]

Like many other teens, I was sure I had forgotten more than my parents would ever know.

Then I went into the service for four years and when I went back home I was amazed at how much smarter my parents had become. I figured they must have gone to night school while I was away.

Parents often come down on their kids to help them learn tough lessons like sticking to a job until it's done so you don't end up giving up on things too easily later in life.

As the teenager matures he will see there was a reason their parents did certain things. They don't do it to punish you, they want you to be able to stand on your own two feet.

I quickly learned in basic training that there were a lot of pampered kids that never had to lift a finger. They would lay in their bunk at night sobbing for their mommy.

Talk things over with your parents, show them you're mature and they'll give you more respect and less of a hassle.

[Big Dog]

Then again, sometimes a father is simply an AH. I spent thirty years trying to live up to the Old Man's expectations, only to be denigrated and ridiculed time and again. At age 50, I finally got fed up with his crap, when he began trash-talking my reborn interest in Motorcycling. Flat out told me I could NOT ride a multistate road trip - AFTER I had done so TWICE. Tried to claim I shared his medical problems - I don't. Started spouting lies about my life style - man, was HE out in left field . . . . NOBODY meets his approval.

So, I finally got into a royal cussing match, with the result I've written him off and we haven't talked since before Christmas. Ah well . . . .

So, if you father is doing this out of 'love', more power to ya. But look carefully at his reasons. Don't be afraid to 'test' yourself - but don't get stupid about it. If you go into the mountains, KNOW where you are! KNOW how to get back out. Be prepared. Doing it right will impress him more than doing something stupid and getting out lucky. Going into the wilderness can be fun and rewarding - but please, do it RIGHT!! Let them know where you'll be, and take some comms. Good luck to you!!

[SuckLead]

Originally Posted by Dan22

When I go to bed at night and lay my head on that soft pillow in the air conditioned cool room, with doors closed to keep out the bugs...I think to myself, "Man, I hope I never have to find out what survival is all about."
If I want a drink, the refrigerator is a few steps away. A light switch gives me light any time of the day or night.
The TV gives me entertainment or news. And then there is the toilet, shower, sink for shaving....and hot water.
My big Lazy Boy recliner sure beats sitting on a rock.
Yeah, survival is cool to discuss but I hope it never happens.

I agree. But at the same time I'd like to get out in the woods and try it once for about a week, nothing but me and my bug out bag, just to know how it feels and see if I could make it. Thinking it and doing it are always too different things.

[neophyte]

SuckLead: Ma'am; you are real. My belief! Ma'am, you could do it.

The reality; them bugs, ants, stinking, diarrhea, Not sleeping on the ground for fear of the bugs hauling you away, no milk, no decent water, a shovel to cover the crap.
Cold half cooked [see me cook and you'll quit eating] food, shirt sleeve for the runny nose, and yes; more.

Outback for me is a quite outing riding my motorbike, calmly along the Blue Ridge Parkway. Stopping and admiring the creations. Going to Sparta and sleeping in a bed, where hot water, air condition, heat, a pot, and sink to brush my teeth.
Seems everything is better', when my teeth are brushed.
Be real and HAVE a Damm good BACK up PLAN

Big Dog; Sir, sometimes folks have problems and want to bring us into there world of misery. Seems to me you may have someone in your life that doesn't have a life, nor wants one.

The relationship isn't working and your decision is good.

Only thing:

One day; you'll have to do the hardest thing of your life.
When the time comes, words, emotions, tears and a loneliness of a past that could've been.
Sir, I too prepared myself. Found out; Wasn't really prepared.
Sir; a prayer to you and your family. God speed