Ammunition - Page 2

two-70 · 11-26-2007, 08:11 PM

i buy all the ammo i can when i can if if the time comes i run out in a bad situation i guess i dont need to live anymore plain and simple, rely on cold steel i guess

LiveToShoot · 11-26-2007, 08:25 PM

Cold steel, great idea... Is it Billy or NRAJOE that collects knives. That's a good back up, some sharp, cold steel.

FoggyNoose · 11-26-2007, 10:48 PM

I think 1-2 thousand rounds would be enough stockpiled. If you need more than that it will be because you have enemies, in which case other weapons and ammo would be collected from the dead.

HandsomeRob · 11-26-2007, 11:08 PM

Very Informative I'll have to remember this thread if I ever get a Muzzleloader.

damage855 · 11-27-2007, 08:20 AM

then i go to my backup plan

LiveToShoot · 11-27-2007, 09:04 AM

That's an effective back up plan you've got there Damage855...

roadie · 11-27-2007, 09:25 AM

Sticks and Stones.....

LiveToShoot · 11-27-2007, 10:03 AM

With a good sling or wrist rocket...for the stones.

damage855 · 11-27-2007, 11:31 AM

I figure when i run out of arrows i can make a few from sticks and stones.

andrew cochran · 11-27-2007, 12:08 PM

Yeah, I bought a traditons .50 cal muzzle loader. You can make your own bullets if needed too!

Idaho Dave · 11-27-2007, 12:33 PM

foggynoose is right, I have seen home made black powder made and fired several loads of it successfully. though it may very in strenght due to inconsistancies in ingrediants and processing it is not hard to make and doesn't require a degree in chemistry. after all it was being made by less sophisticated people then us hundreds and even thousands of years ago. My question is what are you going to be doing all that shooting at? I have several 1000 rounds for my 22s and a couple 1000 7.62x39 and hundreds and hundreds of shot gun shells pistol ammo, 243, 300 etc( I buy a few boxes of something or other each week) I picture most of us probably buy ammo like that too. I cannot picture any SHTF situation that I would live though anyway happening that would exhast all of that ammo. if I were just using it for food procurment and self defence I would think a couple 1000 rounds would last a lifetime. unless you are planning to have your own personal war with the world.

By the way foggy you should try making some of your own charcoal to use for fun my buddy uses green willow wood with no bark and we put it in a steel ammo can with a hole drilled in the top. throw that on your fire until the smoke stops coming out of the hole. once it cools open it up and you have some good pure charcoal.

LiveToShoot · 11-27-2007, 12:40 PM

Andrew, I've been looking into that option as well. All my reloading to date has been done with already manufactured components. Also, when I buy more items to reload I buy a couple extra of this and that to set aside for time of scarcity or emergency. With prices of reloading materials going up like they have this past year, buying a couple extra to avoid higher prices in the near future is a regular shopping practice now. As an example, Hornady 139gr. SST bullets jumped from $17.95 to $23.95 a box in a couple weeks time from a local supplier.

In answer to your question Idaho Dave, from a personal perspective... My wife and I enjoy shooting on a weekly basis, sometimes more frequently when I've loaded up a new batch. Buying in bulk affords us the opportunity to shoot in bulk if we'd like, as long as component prices don't get too high. And, I'm from southern Idaho. (...humor from an earlier time when northern Idaho was known for some residents that were doing such.) We aren't preparing for war down here, just enjoying an active and fun family hobby.

FoggyNoose · 11-27-2007, 01:20 PM

Yeah Idaho Dave.... I have read of a similar way of making charcoal, Ill have to try that.

Dan22 · 11-27-2007, 02:40 PM

If you run out of ammo, learn to fish.

FoggyNoose · 11-27-2007, 03:05 PM

I would have the trotlines baited while I was hunting.... I have much more confidence in my fishing skills than hunting.

Idaho Dave · 11-27-2007, 03:19 PM

i can trap anything in this part of the woods and do a lot in the winter

LiveToShoot · 11-27-2007, 03:23 PM

Idaho Dave, there's a sure fire way to get some food to the table, along with the fish... However, I know very little about trapping.

Idaho Dave, are you in the north of Idaho?

Idaho Dave · 11-27-2007, 04:28 PM

eastern central

LiveToShoot · 11-27-2007, 04:29 PM

Years ago I attended High School in the Wood River Valley...

Idaho Dave · 11-27-2007, 04:40 PM

where you at now

11-26-2007, 08:11 PM	#21
two-70 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ponca city, oklahoma Posts: 1,778	i buy all the ammo i can when i can if if the time comes i run out in a bad situation i guess i dont need to live anymore plain and simple, rely on cold steel i guess __________________ What Would Jesus Do ????? Just Ask Him.

11-26-2007, 08:25 PM	#22
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 2,062	Cold steel, great idea... Is it Billy or NRAJOE that collects knives. That's a good back up, some sharp, cold steel. __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown

11-26-2007, 11:08 PM	#24
HandsomeRob Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Wisconsin Posts: 170	Very Informative I'll have to remember this thread if I ever get a Muzzleloader. __________________ You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass.

11-27-2007, 08:20 AM	#25
damage855 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina / Lake Norman Posts: 925 Blog Entries: 1	then i go to my backup plan __________________ If total goverment control will make us all safer, then why are prisons so dangerous? Last edited by damage855; 11-27-2007 at 08:23 AM.

11-27-2007, 09:04 AM	#26
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 2,062	That's an effective back up plan you've got there Damage855... __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown

11-26-2007, 10:48 PM	#23
FoggyNoose Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: house on the hill Posts: 50	I think 1-2 thousand rounds would be enough stockpiled. If you need more than that it will be because you have enemies, in which case other weapons and ammo would be collected from the dead.

11-27-2007, 09:25 AM	#27
roadie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 625 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 1	Sticks and Stones.....

11-27-2007, 10:03 AM	#28
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 2,062	With a good sling or wrist rocket...for the stones. __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown

11-27-2007, 11:31 AM	#29
damage855 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina / Lake Norman Posts: 925 Blog Entries: 1	I figure when i run out of arrows i can make a few from sticks and stones. __________________ If total goverment control will make us all safer, then why are prisons so dangerous?

11-27-2007, 12:08 PM	#30
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 2,138	Yeah, I bought a traditons .50 cal muzzle loader. You can make your own bullets if needed too!

11-27-2007, 12:33 PM	#31
Idaho Dave Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 531	foggynoose is right, I have seen home made black powder made and fired several loads of it successfully. though it may very in strenght due to inconsistancies in ingrediants and processing it is not hard to make and doesn't require a degree in chemistry. after all it was being made by less sophisticated people then us hundreds and even thousands of years ago. My question is what are you going to be doing all that shooting at? I have several 1000 rounds for my 22s and a couple 1000 7.62x39 and hundreds and hundreds of shot gun shells pistol ammo, 243, 300 etc( I buy a few boxes of something or other each week) I picture most of us probably buy ammo like that too. I cannot picture any SHTF situation that I would live though anyway happening that would exhast all of that ammo. if I were just using it for food procurment and self defence I would think a couple 1000 rounds would last a lifetime. unless you are planning to have your own personal war with the world. By the way foggy you should try making some of your own charcoal to use for fun my buddy uses green willow wood with no bark and we put it in a steel ammo can with a hole drilled in the top. throw that on your fire until the smoke stops coming out of the hole. once it cools open it up and you have some good pure charcoal. __________________ Living the life Last edited by Idaho Dave; 11-27-2007 at 12:40 PM.

11-27-2007, 12:40 PM	#32
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 2,062	Andrew, I've been looking into that option as well. All my reloading to date has been done with already manufactured components. Also, when I buy more items to reload I buy a couple extra of this and that to set aside for time of scarcity or emergency. With prices of reloading materials going up like they have this past year, buying a couple extra to avoid higher prices in the near future is a regular shopping practice now. As an example, Hornady 139gr. SST bullets jumped from $17.95 to $23.95 a box in a couple weeks time from a local supplier. In answer to your question Idaho Dave, from a personal perspective... My wife and I enjoy shooting on a weekly basis, sometimes more frequently when I've loaded up a new batch. Buying in bulk affords us the opportunity to shoot in bulk if we'd like, as long as component prices don't get too high. And, I'm from southern Idaho. (...humor from an earlier time when northern Idaho was known for some residents that were doing such.) We aren't preparing for war down here, just enjoying an active and fun family hobby. __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown Last edited by LiveToShoot; 11-27-2007 at 12:54 PM.

11-27-2007, 01:20 PM	#33
FoggyNoose Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: house on the hill Posts: 50	Yeah Idaho Dave.... I have read of a similar way of making charcoal, Ill have to try that.

11-27-2007, 02:40 PM	#34
Dan22 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 383	If you run out of ammo, learn to fish.

11-27-2007, 03:05 PM	#35
FoggyNoose Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: house on the hill Posts: 50	I would have the trotlines baited while I was hunting.... I have much more confidence in my fishing skills than hunting.

11-27-2007, 03:19 PM	#36
Idaho Dave Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 531	i can trap anything in this part of the woods and do a lot in the winter __________________ Living the life

11-27-2007, 03:23 PM	#37
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 2,062	Idaho Dave, there's a sure fire way to get some food to the table, along with the fish... However, I know very little about trapping. Idaho Dave, are you in the north of Idaho? __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown

11-27-2007, 04:28 PM	#38
Idaho Dave Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 531	eastern central __________________ Living the life

11-27-2007, 04:29 PM	#39
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 2,062	Years ago I attended High School in the Wood River Valley... __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown

11-27-2007, 04:40 PM	#40
Idaho Dave Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 531	where you at now __________________ Living the life