Dealing with stress, fear and depression...

LiveToShoot · 12-15-2007, 12:30 PM

In another survival related area...

We've seen over the past two decades some serious fallout from, or because of, people using SSRIs to survive whatever situation they're in or dealing with. We've also learned that many of the suicides and killings that splash over the media have been directly linked to SSRIs.

As our world continues to unravel and there is a build up of stress, fear and depression, many people have been and are now turning to SSRIs for relief or assistance in dealing with the turmoil...an effort to survive and do well.

I recently came across a book written by Dr. Ann Blake Tracy titled, "Prozac: Panacea or Pandora?" (obtainable through Cassia Publications at 800-280-0730).

For those who may presently be on a SSRI or considering doing so, Dr. Tracy's book is a should/must read, especially if someone is on a SSRI and wants to come off it. Dr. Tracy clearly outlines what tragic things can and do happen when people come off SSRIs in a cold turkey fashion.

Dr. Tracy also makes suggestions in her book of alternative ways of dealing with and overcoming stress, fear and depression...which are safe and effective.

nathangdad · 12-15-2007, 12:54 PM

I don't know if you saw the CBS news story of 200 of our soldiers committing suicide weekly but you should look it up if you have not seen it. It is a matter of physically surviving Iraq and the Afghan situation but not psychiatrically surviving upon their return to America or being posting out of the combat zone.

There is only so much any human can take in terms of stress, fear, and the overwhelming non-accomplishment of anything to show for having gone through an ordeal. The important thing about survival is psychiatric survival.

forestgleaner · 12-15-2007, 12:55 PM

not exactly sure what SSRI's are. I can tell you personally, missing effexer Xr for a weekend, can leave you with one hell of a head ache, and feeling quite out of it.

LiveToShoot · 12-15-2007, 01:07 PM

Yes, I've been following the news reports of dramatically increased suicide rates...and it is so very tragic.

I've also been following the other physcological and physiological challenges these troops are trying to deal with because of their involvement in the Gulf war. As a side note, I served two tours in the gulf. To help my wife better understand some of the tragedies of war, I encouraged her to watch a movie with me last night titled "Saints and Soldiers". It's a portrayal of events that some heroic soldiers were dealing with in the crisis of war during WWII...which cover only a small portion of the whole war spectrum.

I hope those who are experiencing these very challenging conditions will seek and receive help, so they can survive and live productive lives.

Should there be those who are encouraged by a physician to start taking a SSRI (google search for what SSRI is for those who don't know), whether it is a solider, spouse or family member, I hope they will do so with understanding of what they're about to undertake, and not do it blindly...unaware of the long-term consequences associated with SSRIs.

Military Suicide Prevention Conference - December 15, 2007
Police And Military Suicide
Iraq Troops Suicide Rate Spikes, But Military Says It's Doing All It Can To Prevent Self-Harm - CBS News
House Panel Investigates Military Suicide Rate | News | KTLA The CW | Where Los Angeles Lives

The above links are only a snippet of info about the suicide crisis.

The intent of my post is to focus on how we, those not presently serving in the armed forces, are dealing with the increased stress, fear and depression that's around and in us. The survival alternative/option that doctors are so quickly prescribing is a SSRI (Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Lovan, Luvox, and more). That is a very delicate and potentially dangerous approach, and must only be undertaken with understanding of the long-term consequences...which in reality are much more dangerous than the initial stress, fear and depression.

Dr. Tracy shows in her book some medically recognized alternatives to SSRIs to successfully deal with the widespread stress, fear and depression of our day...so we can survive and live a good life.

A couple more links for those who wish to pursue what Dr. Tracy and others have to say on the subject:
[ame]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2502546838698762400[/ame]
Welcome to International Coalition For Drug Awareness
http://www.kitofoundation.org/media/nprshellys.mp3

12-15-2007, 12:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 1,102	Dealing with stress, fear and depression... In another survival related area... We've seen over the past two decades some serious fallout from, or because of, people using SSRIs to survive whatever situation they're in or dealing with. We've also learned that many of the suicides and killings that splash over the media have been directly linked to SSRIs. As our world continues to unravel and there is a build up of stress, fear and depression, many people have been and are now turning to SSRIs for relief or assistance in dealing with the turmoil...an effort to survive and do well. I recently came across a book written by Dr. Ann Blake Tracy titled, "Prozac: Panacea or Pandora?" (obtainable through Cassia Publications at 800-280-0730). For those who may presently be on a SSRI or considering doing so, Dr. Tracy's book is a should/must read, especially if someone is on a SSRI and wants to come off it. Dr. Tracy clearly outlines what tragic things can and do happen when people come off SSRIs in a cold turkey fashion. Dr. Tracy also makes suggestions in her book of alternative ways of dealing with and overcoming stress, fear and depression...which are safe and effective. __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown Last edited by LiveToShoot; 12-15-2007 at 12:37 PM.

12-15-2007, 12:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,636	200 soldiers a week committing suicide I don't know if you saw the CBS news story of 200 of our soldiers committing suicide weekly but you should look it up if you have not seen it. It is a matter of physically surviving Iraq and the Afghan situation but not psychiatrically surviving upon their return to America or being posting out of the combat zone. There is only so much any human can take in terms of stress, fear, and the overwhelming non-accomplishment of anything to show for having gone through an ordeal. The important thing about survival is psychiatric survival.

12-15-2007, 01:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 1,102	Yes, I've been following the news reports of dramatically increased suicide rates...and it is so very tragic. I've also been following the other physcological and physiological challenges these troops are trying to deal with because of their involvement in the Gulf war. As a side note, I served two tours in the gulf. To help my wife better understand some of the tragedies of war, I encouraged her to watch a movie with me last night titled "Saints and Soldiers". It's a portrayal of events that some heroic soldiers were dealing with in the crisis of war during WWII...which cover only a small portion of the whole war spectrum. I hope those who are experiencing these very challenging conditions will seek and receive help, so they can survive and live productive lives. Should there be those who are encouraged by a physician to start taking a SSRI (google search for what SSRI is for those who don't know), whether it is a solider, spouse or family member, I hope they will do so with understanding of what they're about to undertake, and not do it blindly...unaware of the long-term consequences associated with SSRIs. Military Suicide Prevention Conference - December 15, 2007 Police And Military Suicide Iraq Troops Suicide Rate Spikes, But Military Says It's Doing All It Can To Prevent Self-Harm - CBS News House Panel Investigates Military Suicide Rate \| News \| KTLA The CW \| Where Los Angeles Lives The above links are only a snippet of info about the suicide crisis. The intent of my post is to focus on how we, those not presently serving in the armed forces, are dealing with the increased stress, fear and depression that's around and in us. The survival alternative/option that doctors are so quickly prescribing is a SSRI (Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Lovan, Luvox, and more). That is a very delicate and potentially dangerous approach, and must only be undertaken with understanding of the long-term consequences...which in reality are much more dangerous than the initial stress, fear and depression. Dr. Tracy shows in her book some medically recognized alternatives to SSRIs to successfully deal with the widespread stress, fear and depression of our day...so we can survive and live a good life. A couple more links for those who wish to pursue what Dr. Tracy and others have to say on the subject: [ame]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2502546838698762400[/ame] Welcome to International Coalition For Drug Awareness http://www.kitofoundation.org/media/nprshellys.mp3 __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown Last edited by LiveToShoot; 12-15-2007 at 05:32 PM.

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12-15-2007, 12:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
forestgleaner Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 114	not exactly sure what SSRI's are. I can tell you personally, missing effexer Xr for a weekend, can leave you with one hell of a head ache, and feeling quite out of it.