Viability of the .22LR as a SHTF gun AND a "combat" weapon?

JMcDonald · 06-19-2009, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Seven©

That would definitely be your best bet.

So, let's say your neighborhood is overrun by zombies.
While your "Rambo-esque" neighbors defend themselves, your plan is to run?

Hehe. Im probably one of the fastest people in my neighborhood.

And zombies don't wear helmets.

*edit*

In a seige like that, the number of rounds you can throw will be a very deciding factor. Other than that, I'll just hope KR flies up in his Apache to help us out :P .

knightRider · 06-19-2009, 10:55 AM

HEHEHEH that is a funny j mac. i wish i did have a copter .

ArkansasHunter · 06-19-2009, 10:58 AM

I would like to have a a kit Helicopter...But with the luck I'm have'in lately I'd get up over 100 ft. and the motor would die. And so would I...A.H

tommy · 06-19-2009, 10:58 AM

KR must have one heck of an income to be having a ammo and gun collection of almost if not worth more than 50,000?? zackly what kinda work does you do being you don't look dat old? you ain't one of them AIG ceo's are you??

knightRider · 06-19-2009, 11:03 AM

no i run and consult businesses . My specialization is taking a failing business and increasing profits 15 to 30 % in less then a 3 month cycle.

larmus · 06-19-2009, 11:04 AM

the pics are of his grandkid... hehehehe...

tommy · 06-19-2009, 11:12 AM

then with this econemy you should have enough work to last you for a while then.lmao. for a while i was thinkin you was one of then ceo's

big shrek · 06-19-2009, 11:44 AM

Remember, it's always good to have A-Team-type armour READY in your garage for just such an occasion. You can cut it & fit it all so that when SHTF, all you have to do is run out to the garage & Tac-Weld it on, then throw some fast seams on.

If you are REALLY paranoid, you can set up a Camero like THIS...

Yes, that's TWO machine guns!!

And of course the obligatory missiles on the roof

larmus · 06-19-2009, 10:34 PM

I'll take two... one in pink for the wife and one in camo for me...lol!!!

JMcDonald · 06-19-2009, 10:40 PM

Black, thanks.

Seven© · 06-19-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by knightRider

My specialization is taking a failing business and increasing profits 15 to 30 % in less then a 3 month cycle.

Sweet jeebus. My homeboy is a head hunter.

/respect

Sam Ruger · 06-20-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by knightRider

no because i have a Kevlar helmet a 7.62/39 can't penetrate until the second shot. the wienie 22lr has no chance.

It has no chance.
The 22LR will not penetrate cover. In order to get the M16 to do it, they had to jack the the velocity to 2600 FPS+. That's never going to happen with a 22LR.

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but i BET YOU CAN HIT A MOVING TARGET IN THE EYE AT 50 YARDS WITH YOUR 22 !

Fortunately, I don't have to. I carry another weapon for helmets and vests.

knightRider · 06-20-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Ruger

It has no chance.
The 22LR will not penetrate cover. In order to get the M16 to do it, they had to jack the the velocity to 2600 FPS+. That's never going to happen with a 22LR.

Fortunately, I don't have to. I carry another weapon for helmets and vests.

i would be interested in knowing why you would ever need another shtf weapon then your trusty 22lr.

Dragunov · 06-20-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by knightRider

i would be interested in knowing why you would ever need another shtf weapon then your trusty 22lr.

I'm gonna catch it for this........ I would go for 7.62 or 5.56.
Why?
They both have better range, more velocity and energy than the .22lr. By FAR.
Heres the part that's gonna get me in trouble....

I believe that the "boom!" of a larger caliber is far more intimidating than the "crack!" of a .22. You can still here an un suppressed .22 at over 3/4mile away in good cover, and it WILL draw attention. Be it (during SHTF) LE, Idiots, brigands, bandits, whatever... are far LESS likely to come looking for trouble if they here an AR, SKS or a Garand going off.
Besides, if you're hunting and fire only 1 shot, you're not likely to be pin-pointed regardless what the caliber is. Besides that, there are four people in my group and one will be carrying a trusty 'ole .22

Lobo0311 · 06-20-2009, 12:15 PM

I'd say that's about right. I may take my .22 for small game and the like like but as far as defense, I'd way more prefer to have either my 12ga or my SKS.

knightRider · 06-20-2009, 12:23 PM

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Sweet jeebus. My homeboy is a head hunter.

/respect

some times i am popular sometimes not so much

Cyrano · 06-20-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lobo0311

I may take my .22 for small game and the like like but as far as defense, I'd way more prefer to have either my 12ga or my SKS.

I agree with you, Lobo. My personal emergency kit has a Henry AR-7 and 250 rounds of 40 grain hypervel solids (it really dislikes hollowpoints) in it, but that's mainly because A) the law won't give you a ration of grief about a pack rifle and B) a half-capable rifle is a lot better than no rifle at all. My personal choice for a "real" survival gun is either a CETME or an SKS, probably the CETME. It's heavier than the SKS, but I do like the longer reach. Either one is adequate for taking a deer or a man, and in a true survival situation those ought to be about your limit of targets. And I note that a man ought to be a target only when there is no other choice.

06-19-2009, 10:55 AM	#362
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 3,777 Blog Entries: 17	HEHEHEH that is a funny j mac. i wish i did have a copter . __________________ God doesn't give rights. Men have to fight for them.

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ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 18,445	I would like to have a a kit Helicopter...But with the luck I'm have'in lately I'd get up over 100 ft. and the motor would die. And so would I...A.H __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER

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tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 5,041	KR must have one heck of an income to be having a ammo and gun collection of almost if not worth more than 50,000?? zackly what kinda work does you do being you don't look dat old? you ain't one of them AIG ceo's are you?? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

06-19-2009, 11:03 AM	#365
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 3,777 Blog Entries: 17	no i run and consult businesses . My specialization is taking a failing business and increasing profits 15 to 30 % in less then a 3 month cycle. __________________ God doesn't give rights. Men have to fight for them.

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larmus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 3,435	the pics are of his grandkid... hehehehe... __________________ Lawrence Home Defense: .45 and a Shovel...

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tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 5,041	then with this econemy you should have enough work to last you for a while then.lmao. for a while i was thinkin you was one of then ceo's __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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big shrek Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwest, FL Posts: 3,769	Remember, it's always good to have A-Team-type armour READY in your garage for just such an occasion. You can cut it & fit it all so that when SHTF, all you have to do is run out to the garage & Tac-Weld it on, then throw some fast seams on. If you are REALLY paranoid, you can set up a Camero like THIS... Yes, that's TWO machine guns!! And of course the obligatory missiles on the roof __________________ Marlin Specialist, Calico Specialist

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larmus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 3,435	I'll take two... one in pink for the wife and one in camo for me...lol!!! __________________ Lawrence Home Defense: .45 and a Shovel...

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JMcDonald Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,307	Black, thanks.

06-20-2009, 12:15 PM	#375
Lobo0311 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northeast Kansas Posts: 700	I'd say that's about right. I may take my .22 for small game and the like like but as far as defense, I'd way more prefer to have either my 12ga or my SKS.