When society ails will you be ready? - Page 2

mym1a · 06-27-2008, 10:32 AM

the police have their own to worry about! if it should be an isolated crisis they will set up a perimeter and wait till things die down and arrest those who survived, if it should be on a larger scale? you will still be on your own!

toddarice · 06-28-2008, 11:12 PM

Not as well as I'd like.
But being Colorado, we have the infamous "Make My Day" law anyway.
The thing that saddens me is how many people got arrested and their guns taken in parts of New Orleans by the police, guard and our blackwater boys.
And don't forget Patti.....YouTube - NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina
Like Marie says, "I have my Bible and I have my gun"
Todd

sflattem · 07-01-2008, 10:41 AM

I will be moving to NW WI soon...within a planned community, albeit in the woods with hardly a neighbor in sight. This is an area of anti-tax people and some meth heads...

I am taking into plans, the possibility of natural or local problems, will store food, water...have a husky-chow-pit bull-shepherd mix...80 lbs of muscle and love...a benelli 20 will be at the back door, and a stoeger .45 cal at the front door.

I will have solar panels for charging my mobile phone and CB Radio (another form of alternative communications)

I don't expect any problems, however, In Omnia Parata

steve

GlennM · 07-01-2008, 02:26 PM

Don't forget to stock away extra reading or prescription glasses, prescription medicines, toothpaste, deodorant, soap, shampoo, etc, etc etc. The things we all use every day and take for granted often get left out of the surv supplies.

If you've ever read the FOOTFALL novel by Pournelle & Niven, they had a character in it that was really stocked up for SHTF. And when it did, he got home from work to find 20 people already living in his house. He said, "But this is my house!" And those inside said, "And we thank you for the supplies, guns & ammo!"

big shrek · 07-06-2008, 05:32 PM

^^^^
That is PRECISELY WHY you don't tell anyone where your hideout is, what's in it, etc.

Much to be said for battleship steel doors with V-locks...

KGunner · 07-06-2008, 07:10 PM

Heading west to the mountains where I'll be able to survive for a pretty long time. Not even gonna bother being around people.

Mike Franklin · 07-06-2008, 08:35 PM

'the police have their own to worry about! if it should be an isolated crisis they will set up a perimeter and wait till things die down and arrest those who survived, if it should be on a larger scale? you will still be on your own!'

Most Cops have families. If it's a big national type emergency I expect the vast majority of'm will be headed home to take care of Mama and the Kids first. Very many Agencies have no plan for even a power failure much less a major disaster.
Trust me I know.

stikbutter · 07-07-2008, 10:53 AM

This is pretty much the whole reason I came back to Florida. The whole family pulled our resources together and bought a large plot of land. Individulized three acres so we good put three homes on it. We are all together and all pay on the property and houses so its not so hard on one. Place is loaded with game and backs up to a preserve. My sister has some plans for starting aqua-ponics. Not real sure how it works but I guess I'll learn.
To save money I did the clearing myself with my oldest boys, and did the drainfields for the septic whole lot of work but worth it. If society breaks down we can dig in and support our selves.

RedneckCatholic · 07-13-2008, 04:03 PM

Well, we've been thinking about this. We live in a fairly good neighborhood--working class with JOBS, but there is a set of projects at the other end of the street.

We've had to look into threat assesment--what do we need to prepare for. Given that we live at the major bottle neck on the ohio river, with a set of locks that annually handle more tons of cargo than the Pnanama Canal, we figure if it's a nuke war we're toast, unless we get enough warning to be gone--so no prep for that.

As to societal breakdown due to riots or disaster, we're doing our prep now--stocking up on drinking water, food etc.

Our aromory (kinda pretentious name) is in the assemble stage: a Mo-Na m44, to shoot through cardoors etc. A hi-point .380 (light for the job--but it has less chance of killing one of the kids by over penetration of a wall--house is old style construction), a 12 ga security model gun is on the list.

We'll shelter in place, but have go-bags if we have to leave. We also need to plan for power failure, and severe storm damage, both linear winds and tornados. We've no other place to go arrainged yet, although we're looking.

mym1a · 07-13-2008, 04:18 PM

I will survive or die trying !! in a situation like you guys are suggesting,I think the word militia should be considered? even if you are totaly self sufficient there will be those that will want what you have! 24/7 with no rest seems like a long time ??

07-01-2008, 02:26 PM	#24
GlennM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 147 Trader Rating: (0)	Don't forget to stock away extra reading or prescription glasses, prescription medicines, toothpaste, deodorant, soap, shampoo, etc, etc etc. The things we all use every day and take for granted often get left out of the surv supplies. If you've ever read the FOOTFALL novel by Pournelle & Niven, they had a character in it that was really stocked up for SHTF. And when it did, he got home from work to find 20 people already living in his house. He said, "But this is my house!" And those inside said, "And we thank you for the supplies, guns & ammo!" __________________ A Matter of Timing - A Novel for all Patriots. Sneak Preview & Links here: www.gmillercompanies.com

07-06-2008, 05:32 PM	#25
big shrek Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwest, FL Posts: 369 Trader Rating: (0)	^^^^ That is PRECISELY WHY you don't tell anyone where your hideout is, what's in it, etc. Much to be said for battleship steel doors with V-locks... __________________ No worry I are just der big dumb troll nevermind dis here notepad I am just countin' ma toes.

07-06-2008, 07:10 PM	#26
KGunner Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 422 Trader Rating: (0)	Heading west to the mountains where I'll be able to survive for a pretty long time. Not even gonna bother being around people. __________________ Kel-Tec P11 Mossberg 500A Tactical 12 ga. 1947 Mosin Nagant M44 Yugo SKS 59/66

07-06-2008, 08:35 PM	#27
Mike Franklin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poteet, Texas Posts: 1,277 Trader Rating: (0)	'the police have their own to worry about! if it should be an isolated crisis they will set up a perimeter and wait till things die down and arrest those who survived, if it should be on a larger scale? you will still be on your own!' Most Cops have families. If it's a big national type emergency I expect the vast majority of'm will be headed home to take care of Mama and the Kids first. Very many Agencies have no plan for even a power failure much less a major disaster. Trust me I know. __________________ Aim real good we're nearly out of ammo.

06-27-2008, 10:32 AM	#21
mym1a Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,312 Trader Rating: (0)	the police have their own to worry about! if it should be an isolated crisis they will set up a perimeter and wait till things die down and arrest those who survived, if it should be on a larger scale? you will still be on your own!

06-28-2008, 11:12 PM	#22
toddarice Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greeley, Colorado Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0)	Not as well as I'd like. But being Colorado, we have the infamous "Make My Day" law anyway. The thing that saddens me is how many people got arrested and their guns taken in parts of New Orleans by the police, guard and our blackwater boys. And don't forget Patti.....YouTube - NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina Like Marie says, "I have my Bible and I have my gun" Todd

07-01-2008, 10:41 AM	#23
sflattem Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 7 Trader Rating: (0)	I will be moving to NW WI soon...within a planned community, albeit in the woods with hardly a neighbor in sight. This is an area of anti-tax people and some meth heads... I am taking into plans, the possibility of natural or local problems, will store food, water...have a husky-chow-pit bull-shepherd mix...80 lbs of muscle and love...a benelli 20 will be at the back door, and a stoeger .45 cal at the front door. I will have solar panels for charging my mobile phone and CB Radio (another form of alternative communications) I don't expect any problems, however, In Omnia Parata steve

07-07-2008, 10:53 AM	#28
stikbutter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Keystone Hieghts FL Posts: 328 Trader Rating: (0)	This is pretty much the whole reason I came back to Florida. The whole family pulled our resources together and bought a large plot of land. Individulized three acres so we good put three homes on it. We are all together and all pay on the property and houses so its not so hard on one. Place is loaded with game and backs up to a preserve. My sister has some plans for starting aqua-ponics. Not real sure how it works but I guess I'll learn. To save money I did the clearing myself with my oldest boys, and did the drainfields for the septic whole lot of work but worth it. If society breaks down we can dig in and support our selves.

07-13-2008, 04:03 PM	#29
RedneckCatholic Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0)	Well, we've been thinking about this. We live in a fairly good neighborhood--working class with JOBS, but there is a set of projects at the other end of the street. We've had to look into threat assesment--what do we need to prepare for. Given that we live at the major bottle neck on the ohio river, with a set of locks that annually handle more tons of cargo than the Pnanama Canal, we figure if it's a nuke war we're toast, unless we get enough warning to be gone--so no prep for that. As to societal breakdown due to riots or disaster, we're doing our prep now--stocking up on drinking water, food etc. Our aromory (kinda pretentious name) is in the assemble stage: a Mo-Na m44, to shoot through cardoors etc. A hi-point .380 (light for the job--but it has less chance of killing one of the kids by over penetration of a wall--house is old style construction), a 12 ga security model gun is on the list. We'll shelter in place, but have go-bags if we have to leave. We also need to plan for power failure, and severe storm damage, both linear winds and tornados. We've no other place to go arrainged yet, although we're looking.

07-13-2008, 04:18 PM	#30
mym1a Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,312 Trader Rating: (0)	I will survive or die trying !! in a situation like you guys are suggesting,I think the word militia should be considered? even if you are totaly self sufficient there will be those that will want what you have! 24/7 with no rest seems like a long time ??