When society ails will you be ready?

danman · 06-05-2008, 02:27 PM

If there was a natural disaster and plbic services were all but destroyed would you be ready to fend for yourself? When hurrican Katrina (storm not the girl friend) society for that area collasped on itself and recognized no symbols of authority. If something on that scale occured in the united states, how long would it take for those dependent on welfare, disability, food stamps and government services come after your resources. The first thing to be looted will be the stores and then of course food sources. However, when those run out they will come after you.

1. do you have rations set aside?
2. lots of ammo and rifle assortments?
3. water not dependent on city (well water)
4. live in a defensible position.

my question. what I am I missing? I know other poeple have thought about this, what else is there to consider?

mwatson · 06-05-2008, 03:08 PM

I am going to fort up at my residence, I guess we will never have plenty of everything, but we will stay at home. If they come to take what I have they are going to make a grave mistake, then I will take what they have.
Mike
P.S. This is my 12 gauge Baby...870 magnum...9 in the tube...
Makes me feel all safe inside.

Mike Franklin · 06-06-2008, 04:35 PM

It's really important that you have a group of people who will work with you. They don't even need to be 'survival' people, just neighbors who'll help each other out.
You need someone to watch your back in every situation.

Mad Hatter · 06-11-2008, 05:02 PM

I think that most of us here are prepared as best we can be, and we have talked about this quite extensively in previous threads. Looters will be told in no uncertain terms to leave the neighborhood.

LarryO1970 · 06-11-2008, 05:22 PM

Merely told? Looters will be shot in my neighborhood. Step foot on my property with nefarious intent... and those will meet Mr. 168. Heck, that round might not even come from my house...

Mad Hatter · 06-11-2008, 05:28 PM

Larry, you gonna shoot some SOB for a can of beans... come to think of it... yeah you probably would..LOL Is it OK in Wisconsin to protect your property?

LarryO1970 · 06-11-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Hatter

Larry, you gonna shoot some SOB for a can of beans... come to think of it... yeah you probably would..LOL Is it OK in Wisconsin to protect your property?

... probably not, according to Jim Doyle, Gov, (D) ... but I'll do it anyway.

Burke · 06-11-2008, 06:39 PM

Well if all else fails...and no food is to be found..
My Dad tells me of venturing into "town" while in Vietnam, he enjoyed "meat on a stick" The meat was dog, he knew it when he bought it, and said the best dog meat came from Black Dogs....I have 2..

You wanna do what to me?

Big Dog · 06-11-2008, 06:48 PM

Some of us are in less enviable positions - I'm in a neighborhood too close to town, right off the highway, on city water and an 'all-electric' house.
Luckily, the National Forest is my 'backyard'.
Got water, food, ammo and cooking fuel stored.
Enough gas for a couple months with the bike, or a month with the car.
Ah well, I'll stay in place as long as possible, then make my way south of town to where some buddies are better set up - add my resources to theirs for mutual defense. Depends on how long the 'Emergency' is, and how serious the Looters get - I have only so much room for burials.....

Windwalker · 06-11-2008, 06:52 PM

It will be somewhat like living in the 1800s. You will have to make do with what you have and help like minded people when you can.

danman · 06-25-2008, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwatson

I am going to fort up at my residence, I guess we will never have plenty of everything, but we will stay at home. If they come to take what I have they are going to make a grave mistake, then I will take what they have.
Mike
P.S. This is my 12 gauge Baby...870 magnum...9 in the tube...
Makes me feel all safe inside.

i guess 9mm would be the best ammo to stock pile. cheaper than most...

danman · 06-25-2008, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Franklin

It's really important that you have a group of people who will work with you. They don't even need to be 'survival' people, just neighbors who'll help each other out.
You need someone to watch your back in every situation.

thats the truth. although I do not consdier myself crazy, i think there arre too many poeple on the planet and some disaster is bound to ahppen and resources will be scarce. I have some friends who know to meet up at a certain place if communications go down. then we can ban together like primitive socieites out of need of protections. ha.

danman · 06-25-2008, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryO1970

Merely told? Looters will be shot in my neighborhood. Step foot on my property with nefarious intent... and those will meet Mr. 168. Heck, that round might not even come from my house...

when does society and law break down tho? like ther will be lootes of course but will police still be present like they kind of not were in New Orleans.If you shoot a looter would you be arrested in that circumstasnce. You know how liberal do gooders are. protect the bad punish the good...

danman · 06-25-2008, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Dog

Some of us are in less enviable positions - I'm in a neighborhood too close to town, right off the highway, on city water and an 'all-electric' house.
Luckily, the National Forest is my 'backyard'.
Got water, food, ammo and cooking fuel stored.
Enough gas for a couple months with the bike, or a month with the car.
Ah well, I'll stay in place as long as possible, then make my way south of town to where some buddies are better set up - add my resources to theirs for mutual defense. Depends on how long the 'Emergency' is, and how serious the Looters get - I have only so much room for burials.....

EXACTLY. A national forest. most looters have no ideas about the great outdoors and can be easily lured in and dealt with. They would follow a bear into the woods anyway. But yes a forest can be the same as a fortified castle.

Inew2guns · 06-25-2008, 07:21 PM

Q1. do you have rations set aside? A. Nope
Q2. lots of ammo and rifle assortments? A. A little
Q3. water not dependent on city (well water) A. I got like 100 bottles of water
Q4. live in a defensible position. A. well kind of my apartment has windows on only one side so if anything comes in I can blast it.

big shrek · 06-25-2008, 07:33 PM

Florida, being Hurricane Prone, has the Castle Doctrine. Of course, when it's just you & a looter, whoever survives get to tell the tale of "who felt the most threatened".

If society has broken down after a SHTF (like a really bad Cat-5 hurricane), you are on your own. Feed the dead looters to your dogs...just field dress 'em like a deer. Then dispose of the bones, some of which the dogs will take care of, the rest you just find a nice plot for...

If you have looters, law has broken down. You can deal with 'em the NICE way, or the Not-So-Nice way. New Orleans had lots of shootings after Katrina, I don't remember any home-owners being tried for defending their homes afterwards.

LarryO1970 · 06-26-2008, 08:37 AM

1. do you have rations set aside? 12 cases of MRE's.
2. lots of ammo and rifle assortments? Undoubtedly.
3. water not dependent on city (well water) We have our own well and three ponds.
4. live in a defensible position. Easily... as well as a bug-out plan & location.

I will add the following questions:

5. Do you have enough medical supplies?
6. Do you have necessary prescriptions?
7. Do you have hygiene items?

... obviously, a shelter in place is best because you have most of the above items. Secondly, IF you have to bug out, is there anything prepositioned at a secondary location?

ArkansasHunter · 06-26-2008, 09:22 AM

A country boy will survive ! And I'm a country boy !!

Mike Franklin · 06-26-2008, 11:17 AM

The only real worry I'd have is water. This is a drought prone area. So far this year I have officialy only gotten 3.75 inches of rain. I do know where a couple of seeps are, they run even in the worst of droughts. I guess the good thing is that most people don't want to come here when it gets dry. The bad thing is that I live between San Antonio and Mexico. I kinda think that about a million Mexicans will be headed home through this area.

big shrek · 06-27-2008, 10:26 AM

nah, the Mex-Pacs will be headed INTO the US...their whole plan is to take back all the states they lost from bad land deals in the 1700-1800's by swarming in those states until they get a majority, then they'll vote to become part of Mexico again!

06-05-2008, 02:27 PM	#1
danman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Daybreak California Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0)	When society ails will you be ready? If there was a natural disaster and plbic services were all but destroyed would you be ready to fend for yourself? When hurrican Katrina (storm not the girl friend) society for that area collasped on itself and recognized no symbols of authority. If something on that scale occured in the united states, how long would it take for those dependent on welfare, disability, food stamps and government services come after your resources. The first thing to be looted will be the stores and then of course food sources. However, when those run out they will come after you. 1. do you have rations set aside? 2. lots of ammo and rifle assortments? 3. water not dependent on city (well water) 4. live in a defensible position. my question. what I am I missing? I know other poeple have thought about this, what else is there to consider?

06-05-2008, 03:08 PM	#2
mwatson Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rogers, Arkansas Posts: 236 Trader Rating: (0)	I am going to fort up at my residence, I guess we will never have plenty of everything, but we will stay at home. If they come to take what I have they are going to make a grave mistake, then I will take what they have. Mike P.S. This is my 12 gauge Baby...870 magnum...9 in the tube... Makes me feel all safe inside. __________________ ..............................HOWDY Last edited by mwatson; 06-05-2008 at 03:15 PM. Reason: show 12 gauge

06-06-2008, 04:35 PM	#3
Mike Franklin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poteet, Texas Posts: 1,277 Trader Rating: (0)	It's really important that you have a group of people who will work with you. They don't even need to be 'survival' people, just neighbors who'll help each other out. You need someone to watch your back in every situation. __________________ Aim real good we're nearly out of ammo.

06-11-2008, 05:22 PM	#5
LarryO1970 "Blazing Saddles" GOV Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 2,423 Trader Rating: (0)	Merely told? Looters will be shot in my neighborhood. Step foot on my property with nefarious intent... and those will meet Mr. 168. Heck, that round might not even come from my house... __________________ "Guess what?! I've got a fever, and the only prescription... is more cowbell!" Last edited by LarryO1970; 06-11-2008 at 05:28 PM.

06-11-2008, 06:39 PM	#8
Burke Ahh..Cordite. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gun City, Arizona Posts: 485 Trader Rating: (0)	Well if all else fails...and no food is to be found.. My Dad tells me of venturing into "town" while in Vietnam, he enjoyed "meat on a stick" The meat was dog, he knew it when he bought it, and said the best dog meat came from Black Dogs....I have 2.. You wanna do what to me? __________________ As long as I have a gun in my hand..I control my own destiny.

06-11-2008, 05:02 PM	#4
Mad Hatter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 485 Trader Rating: (0)	I think that most of us here are prepared as best we can be, and we have talked about this quite extensively in previous threads. Looters will be told in no uncertain terms to leave the neighborhood.

06-11-2008, 05:28 PM	#6
Mad Hatter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 485 Trader Rating: (0)	Larry, you gonna shoot some SOB for a can of beans... come to think of it... yeah you probably would..LOL Is it OK in Wisconsin to protect your property?

06-11-2008, 06:48 PM	#9
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,063 Trader Rating: (0)	Some of us are in less enviable positions - I'm in a neighborhood too close to town, right off the highway, on city water and an 'all-electric' house. Luckily, the National Forest is my 'backyard'. Got water, food, ammo and cooking fuel stored. Enough gas for a couple months with the bike, or a month with the car. Ah well, I'll stay in place as long as possible, then make my way south of town to where some buddies are better set up - add my resources to theirs for mutual defense. Depends on how long the 'Emergency' is, and how serious the Looters get - I have only so much room for burials..... __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

06-11-2008, 06:52 PM	#10
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,281 Trader Rating: (0)	It will be somewhat like living in the 1800s. You will have to make do with what you have and help like minded people when you can. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

06-25-2008, 07:21 PM	#15
Inew2guns Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Far far away Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0)	Q1. do you have rations set aside? A. Nope Q2. lots of ammo and rifle assortments? A. A little Q3. water not dependent on city (well water) A. I got like 100 bottles of water Q4. live in a defensible position. A. well kind of my apartment has windows on only one side so if anything comes in I can blast it.

06-25-2008, 07:33 PM	#16
big shrek Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwest, FL Posts: 369 Trader Rating: (0)	Florida, being Hurricane Prone, has the Castle Doctrine. Of course, when it's just you & a looter, whoever survives get to tell the tale of "who felt the most threatened". If society has broken down after a SHTF (like a really bad Cat-5 hurricane), you are on your own. Feed the dead looters to your dogs...just field dress 'em like a deer. Then dispose of the bones, some of which the dogs will take care of, the rest you just find a nice plot for... If you have looters, law has broken down. You can deal with 'em the NICE way, or the Not-So-Nice way. New Orleans had lots of shootings after Katrina, I don't remember any home-owners being tried for defending their homes afterwards. __________________ No worry I are just der big dumb troll nevermind dis here notepad I am just countin' ma toes.

06-26-2008, 08:37 AM	#17
LarryO1970 "Blazing Saddles" GOV Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 2,423 Trader Rating: (0)	1. do you have rations set aside? 12 cases of MRE's. 2. lots of ammo and rifle assortments? Undoubtedly. 3. water not dependent on city (well water) We have our own well and three ponds. 4. live in a defensible position. Easily... as well as a bug-out plan & location. I will add the following questions: 5. Do you have enough medical supplies? 6. Do you have necessary prescriptions? 7. Do you have hygiene items? ... obviously, a shelter in place is best because you have most of the above items. Secondly, IF you have to bug out, is there anything prepositioned at a secondary location? __________________ "Guess what?! I've got a fever, and the only prescription... is more cowbell!"

06-26-2008, 09:22 AM	#18
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,504 Trader Rating: (0)	A country boy will survive ! And I'm a country boy !!

06-26-2008, 11:17 AM	#19
Mike Franklin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poteet, Texas Posts: 1,277 Trader Rating: (0)	The only real worry I'd have is water. This is a drought prone area. So far this year I have officialy only gotten 3.75 inches of rain. I do know where a couple of seeps are, they run even in the worst of droughts. I guess the good thing is that most people don't want to come here when it gets dry. The bad thing is that I live between San Antonio and Mexico. I kinda think that about a million Mexicans will be headed home through this area. __________________ Aim real good we're nearly out of ammo.

06-27-2008, 10:26 AM	#20
big shrek Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwest, FL Posts: 369 Trader Rating: (0)	nah, the Mex-Pacs will be headed INTO the US...their whole plan is to take back all the states they lost from bad land deals in the 1700-1800's by swarming in those states until they get a majority, then they'll vote to become part of Mexico again! __________________ No worry I are just der big dumb troll nevermind dis here notepad I am just countin' ma toes.