[tlarkin]

Quote:       Originally Posted by sea_chicken1

These are my choices.

If this was a contest you would win sir, you would win, LMAO!

Though you all are forgetting, that the last of the V8s is the ULTIMATE post apocalypse vehicle!

[tommy]

the guy in the picture looks like simon cowel.lmao his first picture without a t-shirt on.

[larmus]

tlarkin, ya picked my interest again about Mad Max and all the cool cars in all three films i just found this it a whole site dedicated to " The Road Warrior " mad max and his vehicles...

Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome Vehicles - 1985 Sydney Motor Show

[sawnoffshotgun]

I roll with a four wheeler mounted with spikes and a plow does great for them pesky commies. You think I could mount my sks on the handlebars like they did with the tommy guns in WW2

[shtf123]

Quote:       Originally Posted by AllAlaskan

I have seen a few lifted 4 door wranglers and They look likke they would be a good rig. In stock form though they look wierd to me lol just a 4 door wrangler looks odd sitting kinda low but with a 2 or 3 inch lift get em up a lil bit they look like they would be a very capable rig.

The 4 door wranglers are cool, cause jeep finally made a full size wrangler suv. But and a big BUT, For a bov way too new, too computerized. and not diesel.

[chesterwin]

Mr. Ed. - Low fuel costs and modernistic voice activated controls. LOL If SHTF we better all be pulling togeather.

[Dragunov]

I would have to go with what I already have.

Land Rovers.

[AllAlaskan]

[quote=Crikey;845049]

Quote:       Originally Posted by AllAlaskan

Im just curios as to what vehicle you would pick for transportation in the event of a SHTF event or Disaster hit. I would go with a 70's era VW Bus. It would be tough for anyone to pin you as a survivalist, it can carry a shit load of gear, reliable, parts are readliy accessible and it will go anywhere but the most hardened offroad places. Its good in snow, the weight being over the back drive wheels, and has roof rack accessories. Heck, it would be fairly simple to armour yourself for the most part. Yep, an older VW bus is the ticket.

I have a buddy who has a 69 and it is not very good on the snow and ice at all lol. He parks it in the winter for two reasens, its squirrly on the ice and snow and its heater doesnt work well lol.

[AllAlaskan]

Update:

Well now that im back in AK i just picked up a 94 Explorer. It has the Warn manual lock in hubs up front with the Dana 35 diff and the old TIB (Twin I-Beam) suspension which is almost as good as a solid front axle (but not quite imo) but way better than the Indipendant front suspension. It does need some work like it needs new barings up on the 2 front wheels and needs plugs and wires but you can find offroad parts MUCH easier than the 95 I had in texas. I also see a possible V8 swap in the far future( I meen in a year or 2). As of now its stock but give me some time and i will problubly have it sitting up a few more inches with some bigger tires atleast by this time next year.

[Louisville]

Quote:       Originally Posted by AllAlaskan

JMcDonald, I wasnt talking about for a SHTF vehicle being powered by Hydrogen i was talking about changing cars in general. Even though it takes electricity to get hydrogen it is still cheeper than to dig pump and refine and transport oil into gas.

Incorrect. Kinda. Right now it is cheaper, because the energy you are putting into the system to extract the hydrogen comes from energy produced by coal, gas, oil, etc. Also there is very low demand for hydrogen, so it is very cheap. Once demand goes up so will cost.

Now, as you expend more energy seperating the hydrogen from the water than you get in the form of hydrogen, it is an idiotic attempt. The laws of thermodynamics win every time. As the oil is already there, we do not need to expend more energy than the net worth. So we can extract it at a net gain.

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And you dont have to use coal to get the electricity, there are plenty of natural ways such as wind mills and dams and such. And in the end its still better than oil.

Better than oil is an opinion only, and one that depends on your stance. But, as it does take much more energy to extract hydrogen than it produces you would be better off just using the other sources to power your vehicles.

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In my opinion diggig up the oil then sending it to plants where they use much more electricity to refine the oil then the oil itself just to transport it is a waste of energy.

But it does not take more electricity to refine the hydrocarbons than they can produce because good ol mother nature has already expended a lot of energy making it, all we are doing is converting that energy into a useable fuel source.

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On the other hand the advances in electric vehicles has been progressing pretty well itself. Just every one I have seen or heard doesnt really have that much distance they can travel before needing recharged. ANd thats without a backup generater like on current hybrids.

Now as a guy who makes a living in the oil and gas industry I must say that I do hope we can get away from using hydrocarbons sometime in the near future, however we still have a long way to go. Also, electric cars will never be as effecient (energy wise, not cost wise) as gas engines. There are too many steps in the line that cause a loss. Now that does not mean that at some time in the future we won't be able to produce enough power through other means to run our cars and everything else on electricity at a decent price, it just means that we will require a lot more power to do so.

So unless you are willing to live next to a nuclear plant (also remember that U235 238 etc is a finite source we will run out of that too), or have several thousand acres of windmills behind your house, then don't complain.

[JG12gauge]

Quote:       Originally Posted by AllAlaskan

SOmething else i just remembered also are Subarus lol, I have seen a couple when i lived up in alaska in anchorage that werelifted about 3 inches with offroad tires. THey sat pretty high up and i have seen what a stock lil suby can do kinda makes me think about maby going that route when I move back up in a couple months lol.

I agree those things do great. A jacked up brat would be great.

[Gray Wolf]

Let's at least keep it realistic! Come on-an ultralight aircraft? No cargo capacity, or room for the kiddies. Hydrogen power-I've been hearing about it for the last 10 years, and it's no closer to being real now than it was then.
Full size Ford or Chevy truck=the right answer. Tough, reliable, and if you have older models, nothing on them that the average Joe can't fix himself.
Hard to break, easy to fix, and cheap or even free parts are everywhere. Crewcab models carry your whole family and a boatload of other stuff you will need, including bicycles.

When the gasoline runs out, you can power them with firewood!
Try that with your newer fuel-injected computer-controlled whatevers.

[sea_chicken1]

I have my 77 K5 Blazer to run the gaunntlet to get me to where I am going in case of emp. I would just use it to get the hell out as fast as possible and then ditch it. Hide it somewhere safe and covered if I could til it was safe to move it again and if not disable it.

[gun monkey]

A Komatsu bulldozer. Armor up that POS and roll over any obstruction.

[gun monkey]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Gray Wolf

Let's at least keep it realistic! Come on-an ultralight aircraft? No cargo capacity, or room for the kiddies.

An ultralight would be that. Recon, move, repeat.

[joestratton1]

I have a old cop car that would be perfect, it has a push bumper, spot lights, ok on gas fast all get out, and a TON of trunk space.

[Mr. 22]

I never read ALL of the posts - just scanned them quickly.

I don't think anyone mentioned my favorite... The "Rambo-Lambo"

Used the Countach V12 engine in the production cars from about 1981 (prototype - 10 years BEFORE the Hummer!!) - 1992 (when the Hummer was first released!), had a 76 gallon tank! Special editions were made that brought it to 600hp.









Your buddies could even ride in style!

[grizcty]

Remember you DO NOT, want any thing newer the early 1980's.
A simple EMP deployed.
Will immediately shut down, any type of vehicle with electronics!

Four wheeler
M/C
Car/Truck
Snow machine
ETC.

Livestock is useless, in the Interior of Alaska. (during winter)
As they are too expensive to feed/shelter.

These are my "emergency vehicles".

I point them in a direction, stop when I get there!

[big shrek]

Quote:       Originally Posted by tlarkin

If this was a contest you would win sir, you would win, LMAO! Though you all are forgetting, that the last of the V8s is the ULTIMATE post apocalypse vehicle!

That reminds me...Mad Max 4 will start filming soon.

It's scheduled for 30 weeks of filming, then a few weeks of special effects...it's called "Mad Mad: Fury Road".

[AllAlaskan]

Quote:       Originally Posted by grizcty

Remember you DO NOT, want any thing newer the early 1980's. A simple EMP deployed. Will immediately shut down, any type of vehicle with electronics! Four wheeler M/C Car/Truck Snow machine ETC. Livestock is useless, in the Interior of Alaska. (during winter) As they are too expensive to feed/shelter. These are my "emergency vehicles". I point them in a direction, stop when I get there!

are those diesel powered? I knew a guy that had something similer (the Alaska National guard use) and it was diesel, dang thing would go any where. I think i posted em farther back in the post.