[Louisville]

Quote:       Originally Posted by grizcty

Remember you DO NOT, want any thing newer the early 1980's. A simple EMP deployed. Will immediately shut down, any type of vehicle with electronics!

A EMP will shut down pre 1980s style cars also.

[grizcty]

Quote:       Originally Posted by AllAlaskan

are those diesel powered? I knew a guy that had something similer (the Alaska National guard use) and it was diesel, dang thing would go any where. I think i posted em farther back in the post.

Negative.

These run on Gasoline.
Which is cheaper to run.
And you don't have to worry about cold starts. (until -30 - 35 deg.)

These predate the SUSV.(Hagglunds)
This is a 1960 Thiokol 601.
My other is a 1940 M-29.
These were the original military ORV.

[tommy]

i got a 01 dodge 2500 24valve cummins turbo. it's got all the power i need and it's more dependably than a gas burner and less likely to explode if a bullet hits the tank. if an emp does hit and by a mirical my truck is still useable there would be semi's all over the place to get fuel out of. plus i can leave my truck runnin for a long period if needed unlike a gas burner.

[Mr. 22]

I keep my Rambo-Lambo in a lead lined garage and all of the engine and components are shielded in lead.

I'll be the only thing out there running with a rooster-tail of dust behind me.

[Louisville]

Quote:       Originally Posted by grizcty

Negative. These run on Gasoline. Which is cheaper to run. And you don't have to worry about cold starts. (until -30 - 35 deg.)

While Diesel is more expensive to buy, there is more energy per weight than gas. So with the right truck it ends up being cheaper in the long run. But yeah a pain in cold weather.

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by tommy

i got a 01 dodge 2500 24valve cummins turbo. it's got all the power i need and it's more dependably than a gas burner and less likely to explode if a bullet hits the tank. if an emp does hit and by a mirical my truck is still useable there would be semi's all over the place to get fuel out of. plus i can leave my truck runnin for a long period if needed unlike a gas burner.

You Tube

You Tube

You can also watch this. Maybe not as "current" as MythBusters, but I think its a pretty straightforward demo. They do blow it up at the end though on purpose, just for the hell of it,

[Louisville]

Quote:       Originally Posted by billy

You can also watch this. Maybe not as "current" as MythBusters, but I think its a pretty straightforward demo. They do blow it up at the end though on purpose, just for the hell of it,

Yup, the only way you are going to blow up a car by shooting at it is if you use HE.

[billy]

i found this.
is it true?
QUOTE;
A good reason to invest in an old manual car, one where switches are mechanical and there was a carburetor…even if the EMP fries your battery a clutch-start will get it running and the battery will recharge.;UNQUOTE




THE REASON I ASK IS IVE GOT A 47 YEAR OLD WILLYS

[billy]

Another "myth" that seems to have grown up with information on EMP is that nearly all cars and trucks would be "knocked out" by EMP. This seems logical, but is one of those cases where "real world" experiments contradict theoretical answers and I'm afraid this is the case with cars and EMP. According to sources working at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, cars have proven to be resistant to EMP in actual tests using nuclear weapons as well as during more recent tests (with newer cars) with the US Military's EMP simulators.
One reason for the ability of a car to resist EMP lies in the fact that its metal body is "insulated" by its rubber tires from the ground. This creates a Faraday cage of sorts. (Drawing on the analogy of EMP being similar to lightning, it is interesting to note that cases of lightning striking and damaging cars is almost non-existent; this apparently carries over to EMP effects on vehicles as well.)
Although Faraday boxes are generally made so that what is inside doesn't touch the box's outer metal shield (and this is especially important for the do-it-yourself since it is easy to inadvertently ground the Faraday box--say by putting the box on metal shelving sitting on a concrete floor), in the case of the car the "grounded" wiring is grounded only to the battery. In practice, the entire system is not grounded in the traditional electrical wiring sense of actually making contact to the earth at some point in its circuitry. Rather the car is sitting on insulators made of rubber.
It is important to note that cars are NOT 100 percent EMP proof; some cars will most certainly be effected, especially those with fibreglass bodies or located near large stretches of metal. (I suspect, too, that recent cars with a high percentage of IC circuitry might also be more susceptible to EMP effects.)
The bottom line is that all vehicles probably won't be knocked out by EMP. But the prudent survivalist should make a few contingency plans "just in case" his car (and other electrical equipment) does not survive the effects of EMP. Discovering that you have one of the few cars knocked out would not be a good way to start the onset of terrorist attack or nuclear war.
Most susceptible to EMP damage would be cars with a lot of IC circuits or other "computers" to control essential changes in the engine. The very prudent may wish to buy spare electronic ignition parts and keep them a car truck (perhaps inside a Faraday box). But it seems probable that many vehicles WILL be working following the start of a nuclear war even if no precautions have been taken with them.

[billy]

AusSurvivalist - EMP Protection

[billy]

This should be a warning to anyone who is planning to use any very old vehicle for possible use after an EMP event. If you have a pre-electronic-ignition era vehicle, it is important that you also have an electrical wiring diagram for the vehicle, and plenty of fuses (and I do mean plenty of fuses) and some critical electrical spare parts. My own personal experience in maintaining a 1959 model RCA high-power television transmitter until the year 2000 tells me that it is very easy for high voltages to punch through old insulation. Although post-EMP repair of these older vehicles may be easier than repair of a modern vehicle, it can be very frustrating, since very old insulation on electrical wiring can become extremely brittle.

[iflylow74]

Quote:       Originally Posted by billy

i found this. is it true? QUOTE; A good reason to invest in an old manual car, one where switches are mechanical and there was a carburetor…even if the EMP fries your battery a clutch-start will get it running and the battery will recharge.;UNQUOTE THE REASON I ASK IS IVE GOT A 47 YEAR OLD WILLYS

It should work. I remember as a kid my dad clutch starting his old Ford that had a manual tranny. The Willys should work as well

[Ten Man]

An old VW "Beetle" with a manual transmission would be an excellent SHTF vehicle.

Cheap to run, simple to maintain, easy to fix, and inconspicuous.

It's not going to take you "off road" anywhere, but it will work anywhere that's relatively unobstructed.

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Ten Man

An old VW "Beetle" with a manual transmission would be an excellent SHTF vehicle. Cheap to run, simple to maintain, easy to fix, and inconspicuous. It's not going to take you "off road" anywhere, but it will work anywhere that's relatively unobstructed.

this'll go places that vw only dreams of.

[AllAlaskan]

thats a nice jeep

[Stew Man Fu]

Quote:       Originally Posted by sea_chicken1

I have my 77 K5 Blazer to run the gaunntlet to get me to where I am going in case of emp. I would just use it to get the hell out as fast as possible and then ditch it. Hide it somewhere safe and covered if I could til it was safe to move it again and if not disable it.

You could make a Faraday cage to surround your electronics in case of EMP. I've seen the plans for them on-line. Would work well on something that old and roomy under the hood.

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Stew Man Fu

You could make a Faraday cage to surround your electronics in case of EMP. I've seen the plans for them on-line. Would work well on something that old and roomy under the hood.

the vehicle itself is a form of faraday cage.

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by AllAlaskan

thats a nice jeep

originally it had 1 inline fuse.

[Ten Man]

Quote:       Originally Posted by billy

this'll go places that vw only dreams of.

Which is why I have a 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer.

Still, a VW Beetle would get around the community, or down the highway quite nicely, and would probably withstand the EMP, too.

[travisg96]

I have a 86 f250 with a diesel and no electric componants that would be damaged by EMP well outside of the radio. Although I think I woulld rather have one of those car's from Mad Max.
Travis